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Posted by Crimsonite94
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:55 am to
RB is fine if the OC will call running plays.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:59 am to
I'm going to be very interested to see if we have any changes in our offensive game plan if we have first down inside the 5 yardline. Or if we have a 2nd or 3rd down situation on the 1.
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:09 am to
If we have a 3rd down at the one, that is two plays to get a yard. If you pass it is because you are comfortably ahead and want to fool the defense , secondly, you have no confidence in your OL, or the coach is an idiot
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 11:20 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:21 am to
And the DC for MSU will also understand Bob is going to run it as well due to bad press from last week.

At some point the OL just has to whip the guy in front of them instead of trying to outsmart them.
Posted by BeltwayTide
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:25 am to
Well here is a pretty scathing article. This author claims that Pete got relieved of play calling duties during half time.

Also points out the complete drop off in talent versus the recruiting hype the past few years. Not sure how you decide to fix this mid-season even if Saban is running around trying to yell at people all week.

LINK
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:34 am to
quote:

This author claims that Pete got relieved of play calling duties during half time.


He then goes on to suggest that Saban gave Golding the last two drives to save his job, which is why the defense went back to being pure shite after we took the lead. I want Golding out as much as anyone, but that's just an absurd take. Golding loses playcalling duties at halftime but then Saban gives them back to him with the game on the line? No. Just, no.
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:35 am to
Who the frick knows about Peter Golding the DC... if CNS hasn't replaced a bad DC in four years then the end of this run is near, BUT I do know this... Peter Golding the linebacker coach is a total fricking failure. This hobbit bastard would have dick butkus and Rey Lewis running into one another like something outta the three fkn stooges
Posted by BeltwayTide
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:36 am to
Agree that sounds like a pretty big stretch to believe on the last two drives.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:41 am to
I think the problem on defense is cultural at this point. It’s a mentality. You don’t need talent to fight to get off a block (notice I didn’t say get off a block) and you don’t need talent to meet a ball carrier or pulling lineman head on in the B gap.

There seems to be a “someone else will make the play” sickness that’s permeated since Golding got here. He’s an even keeled guy, not an in your face high energy guy. I wont expect in your face high energy defense until he’s not the one in charge of it.

I think the problem in the front 7 is we have too many soft football players and the problem in the back 4 is we have players that aren’t sure what exactly they’re supposed to be doing, and some of them are soft too.

Mike McCoy came out and said it this week and it’s something I’ve harped on for a while. We don’t have many dogs. You need some mean, prideful kids to play good defense. We’ve got a lot that seem to just like the idea of being an Alabama football player because of how that status is viewed around the country. Oh he must be good to play for bama. Yea it used to be that way.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:44 am to
After the debacle Pete delivered at UF, he kind of got relieved of his duties for the Ole Miss game. Saban insisted on simplicity -- running our basic nickel defense and zone coverage, with no presnap calls or changes from Golding. And the defense played their best game.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 11:51 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:50 am to
quote:

He then goes on to suggest that Saban gave Golding the last two drives to save his job, which is why the defense went back to being pure shite after we took the lead.


Yeah, the writer is full of shite. If this was true, Golding would have already been fired.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:58 am to
quote:

After the debacle Pete delivered at UF, he kind of got relieved of his duties for the Ole Miss game. Saban insisted on simplicity -- running our basic nickel defense and zone coverage, with no presnap calls or changes from Golding. And the defense played their best game


I'm not saying you're wrong, but if this is true why did it revert back for the A&M game? Why didn't we keep it simplified?
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:02 pm to
Regardless of whether the writer made some wrong assumptions and claims, Pete did call the same garbage on the last two drives that failed miserably in the first half, instead of sticking with the adjustments made at halftime.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

I'm not saying you're wrong, but if this is true why did it revert back for the A&M game? Why didn't we keep it simplified?

Apparently, Saban insisted on eliminating miscommunication and confusion vs Ole Miss' fast tempo. A&M doesn't go fast-tempo. But Saban is also guilty of being married to some of his own complexities. Pete will gladly call for them as well as his own crappy blitzes. Imo, we should always keep our defense pretty simple. When we do, we play much faster and more aggressively, with far fewer costly mistakes.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:08 pm to
I agree with all of that to an extent, but ultimately I think our defensive slip under Golding can be attributed mostly to two factors. First of all, he's just a fricking awful linebacker coach. Lack of development, if not outright regression, at that position has been a constant since he was hired, and if the linebackers don't even have a grasp on their own responsibilities the entire defense is going to end up confused. Second, his blitz concepts are complete shite, as is his feel for when to be aggressive and when to back off. Even guys like Hightower and Foster wouldn't have been effective blitzers if they had constantly been sent to rush the same gap as a stunting DE or told to count to 3 before rushing the QB. We don't create a lot of negative plays or QB confusion with our blitzes anymore and we haven't since Golding took over.

So while there is certainly a lot to be said for a lack of alpha dogs who want to go out there and frick people up, even those kind of players aren't going to do well if they aren't put in a position to succeed.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:19 pm to
There's a lot of truth in the old adage that a defense (or offense) tends to possess the personality of its DC (or OC). Bottom line: Virtually all of our defensive woes stem from Golding being an abysmal DC/ILB coach.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:26 pm to
I would throw in missing in some of the recruiting classes
Posted by Hawaiian Punch
Member since Jan 2018
505 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

He’s an even keeled guy, not an in your face high energy guy. I wont expect in your face high energy defense until he’s not the one in charge of it.


I think you are 100% correct with this take.

Whether you watch videos of practice or him on the sideline during games, Pete Golding is far from high energy - which is a major problem as Saban seems to have mellowed some with age. Obviously we don’t get to see him behind closed doors, but from what I have seen of Pete Golding, he looks extremely UNinspiring for someone who coaches high level (or supposed to be) athletes.

Kirby - even though I think he’s a clown - and Pruitt were/are animated as frick on the sidelines, and they are passionate about coaching these kids and having them kick arse on the field.

The difference in attitudes between the defenses led by Pruitt & Kirby and the defenses led by Golding are glaring. We will never be good, much less great, under Pete Folding.

This is really just a lot of words to say he needs to take a fricking hike. Like now.
Posted by Crimsonite94
Member since Jul 2021
3564 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:50 pm to
Any inside info on Pete’s status moving forward? Is he still calling plays?
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:08 pm to
God, I hope that's true. And I hope he has been relieved of the duties permanently. The talent is over there folks. It's been confused and mismanaged and poorly coached, but when you turn it loose, a la Ole Miss, they can wreak havoc.

They need to be coached up, but until some more permanent changes can be made, let's just let the talent take over and we should be in pretty good shape for the rest of 2021. I also hope wholesale changes are made at certain positions and the underclassmen are brought in. If we're going to make mistakes and blow assignments, let's do it with the kids who have 2-3 more years to get it right. Chris Owens, for example, might know what he's supposed to do, but he's not capable of doing it. Shuffle the OL, at least at RT, bring in some of the young WR's and let's roll with it.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 1:09 pm
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