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Our offense is outdated
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:40 pm
This is not a new take a few of us have seen the writing on the wall since the hire of Rees. Notre Dame’s offense got significantly better since he left. It’s 2024 and playing in 12 personnel 90% of the time won’t work. We rarely ever use pre snap motion to confuse the defense or attack their weaknesses. No quick passes. Slants should’ve Milroes best friend and the few times they were called he threw them beautifully. Not one trick play all year. So many wanna make milroe the scapegoat for Rees but they never watched him at Notre dame. This is who he is. Be prepared to average 20 points per game with him no matter the personnel. Washington will show us Monday night how a modern offense should do Michigan. It was hard to watch Michigan be more creative on offense than we were.
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:30 pm to BigFolks6347
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Our offense is outdated
Offense is fine. Its limited as far as what we can run due to the strengths and weaknesses of our QB and OL.
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Notre Dame’s offense got significantly better since he left
They went from Tyler Buchner to Sam Hartman.
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No quick passes. Slants should’ve Milroes best friend and the few times they were called he threw them beautifully.
They dont trust him to throw slants without turning the ball over.
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This is who he is. Be prepared to average 20 points per game with him no matter the personnel.
The offense second half of the year was top 5 in efficiency offense. If Milroe and the OL improves we will be top 5 next year as well and in contention for a championship.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:46 pm to BigFolks6347
There is no doubt there’s a lack of creativity. Ultimately the offense is on the OC and our offense has been pretty average to bad from a Bama standpoint. Look at our national stats. It’s a miracle we won 12 games.
Now the players have to be blamed as well along with the QB but like I said with Wiggins…I’m an end result type of guy. The offense hasn’t been good enough. That has to fall at the feet of Rees.
How many 27-24 type games did we play this year? We were bound to lose one. Our offense did not produce enough.
Now that doesn’t mean Rees/Milroe combo can’t succeed next year with hard work and adjustments but based on 2023 alone we weren’t close to good enough. Gave up around 50 sacks ffs. Inconsistent passing game. Pass protection was a cluster f***.
Watching Texas reminds me what creative play calling looks like. Sark is a master play caller. Now things are easier with the O line we had in 2020 along with our star QB, RB and WR but regardless Sark was in charge of that offense and it ran like a machine. The OC is in charge at the end of the day.
Now the players have to be blamed as well along with the QB but like I said with Wiggins…I’m an end result type of guy. The offense hasn’t been good enough. That has to fall at the feet of Rees.
How many 27-24 type games did we play this year? We were bound to lose one. Our offense did not produce enough.
Now that doesn’t mean Rees/Milroe combo can’t succeed next year with hard work and adjustments but based on 2023 alone we weren’t close to good enough. Gave up around 50 sacks ffs. Inconsistent passing game. Pass protection was a cluster f***.
Watching Texas reminds me what creative play calling looks like. Sark is a master play caller. Now things are easier with the O line we had in 2020 along with our star QB, RB and WR but regardless Sark was in charge of that offense and it ran like a machine. The OC is in charge at the end of the day.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:53 pm to tide06
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They dont trust him to throw slants without turning the ball over.
Correct. Milroe has the processing speed of an Atari 2600 at the snap. And possibly even worse pre-snap.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:28 am to BigFolks6347
Lane Kiffin would have our roster scoring 40+ per game. Hes already proven what he can do with Bama talent. Hell, hes damn near doing it with ole miss talent.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:33 am to Rip N Lip
It’s amazing how dumb I am in regard to football. I’ve been watching it my whole life, and come up right on some of my thoughts occasionally. But I’ll read one guy on here and be like, “that guy nailed it!” Then I’ll read the very next post and be like, “what a moron that last guy was!”
Good ole football.
Good ole football.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:21 am to BigFolks6347
[quote]12 personnel [/quote]
Seems to work well with pre-snap motion and a QB who can make short and intermediate passes? And an OL that can execute. Maybe some “dual threat” TEs on the roster. What parts was Alabama missing in that equation?
You said “90% of the time” too, so there’s that. But that 12 personnel sure seems to give modern NFL defenses fits. College level defenses as well.
Seems to work well with pre-snap motion and a QB who can make short and intermediate passes? And an OL that can execute. Maybe some “dual threat” TEs on the roster. What parts was Alabama missing in that equation?
You said “90% of the time” too, so there’s that. But that 12 personnel sure seems to give modern NFL defenses fits. College level defenses as well.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 1:33 am
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:43 am to BigFolks6347
If anything it's our defense that is outdated. A young built on the fly during the season with 1st time starters all over it, yes, that's our offense.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:08 am to clay3482
I’m not blaming Rees but I do think we need to have a bit more imagination. I watched most of the bowl games this year and cannot tell you how many times I saw really innovative or creative plays that worked (not gadget plays).
I’m thinking to myself, “Why can’t Rees do something like that?”. Hell, if nothing else, literally incorporate/steal those ideas.
I’m thinking to myself, “Why can’t Rees do something like that?”. Hell, if nothing else, literally incorporate/steal those ideas.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:24 am to BigFolks6347
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We rarely ever use pre snap motion
I felt it was used a fair amount in the Michigan game. But that won't matter if your center can't snap the ball properly. It also won't offset your OL being pushed around or whiffing on blocks.
That loss was a complete display of all the flaws in this team's offense. You can't have those issues this late in the year AND have a 1st year starting QB that is a limited passer. Most of the throws I saw were safe and to the outside or 50/50 deep balls. Imagine trying to call a game that protects your QB from taking too many risks only to see snaps sent back below his knees or to his side. Rees may be terrible, time will tell. But I sure as hell don't envy him for what he dealt with this season.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:42 am to 615tider
Time has already told with Rees. He has never had a good offense since he’s been a coordinator. Think about this how many times has he created a mismatch with a receiver on a linebacker? How many times has he come out of the huddle with the running back split wide only to motion him back into the backfield to let us know whether the defense is in man or zone? When was the last time you saw us run a rub route? A slip screen to the running back? Don’t give me this crap about milroe can’t throw intermediate because I can point back to several throws this year where he made beautiful 10-20 yard passes. As an OC it’s about scheming and finding mismatches. He’s a big ten guy and scoring 40 points per game isn’t something he’s ever seen as a player or coach. He never was a fit here and next season will go like this if he’s retained.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:23 am to BigFolks6347
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Slants should’ve Milroes best friend and the few times they were called he threw them beautifully
Rees deserves criticism, so I’m not arguing against that, but this statement is just not true. JM has a tendency to throw high and late with anything over the middle. He also isn’t great at recognizing coverages. Those are recipes for turnovers. It is why we have been a throw deep or to the edges team.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:30 am to Rip N Lip
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Correct. Milroe has the processing speed of an Atari 2600 at the snap. And possibly even worse pre-snap.
I thought the same thing years ago with Hurts. Hurts never took chances because he was terrified of turning the ball over in my opinion. He then goes to Oklahoma and the NFL and throws it with no fear. Guys like Tua, Mac, and Bryce have no fear and still sling it even if they throw a couple of interceptions. Milroe has a lot of throws that are just 1 second late and I think he's terrified of throwing an interception. I think the Saban mindset of every drive that ends with a kick is a good drive kills the development of QB's that lack the killer instinct of just slinging the ball around and taking chances.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:37 am to BigFolks6347
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Slants should’ve Milroes best friend and the few times they were called he threw them beautifully
No he didn't. I swear some of you are just completely making stuff up to support your argument.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:39 am to EGO3x
Wed be in the natty if we just scored 24 or 27 in regulation this game. That's the sad part
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:40 am to BrianFantana
This is absolutely the case. Milroe has been really good about keeping the ball since that Texas game. But you can tell that is a primary focus on a lot of plays. He took so many sacks that he could've escaped and got yardage that he just ate to not turn it over. Same things with a lot of the throws he makes
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:25 am to CrimsonCrusade
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No he didn't. I swear some of you are just completely making stuff up to support your argument.
Try and make sure that what you are claiming people are making up isn't so easily provable.
https://twitter.com/cbssportscfb/status/1710777526233026901
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:16 pm to Funky Tide 8
Bruh Burton had like 5 yards of cushion there. The TAMU game was an anomaly at this point for Milroe. Also throwing a good slant or couple doesn't mean he is consisteny
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:17 pm to cecilsberry
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The TAMU game was an anomaly at this point for Milroe
How so?
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Also throwing a good slant or couple doesn't mean he is consisteny
No one said that it did, nor was that the point of my post.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:23 pm to Funky Tide 8
Thanks funky. He literally threw a great pass on most of his slants. They just wanna blame Jalen instead of Rees.
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