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RollTide1987
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Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
They have been much maligned all season and most of that criticism stems from their performance (or lack thereof) against Ole Miss. Since that game, however, they have allowed (on average) 274 yards per game and 11 points per game. That's actually much closer to what we are used to seeing out of a Nick Saban-coached defense.


Commander Data
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
Yes sir. They have simplified the defense allowing guys to eliminate a lot of thinking so they can just react to the play in front of them. Also playing a bit more zone allowing guys like Battle to make plays on the ball.


mistaken4193
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
Dylan Moses is the only one playing poorly IMO.


bamatide07
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
Auburn will be a major test. Gus and Chad Morris will throw everything they have at us.


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SummerOfGeorge
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
I'll be honest - I don't really know what to think of our defense. I know that they aren't elite, but I also know that they aren't terrible.

I look at numbers and they tell me we had one terrible game and 6 pretty solid ones. I also know that we've played 1 good offense and 6 average to terrible offenses. On the flip side, other defenses seem to be playing worse against the same average to bad offenses than we did.

I think we'll do the same thing we've been doing against Auburn. Have a few drives where we look lost bad, all of us will be enraged, we'll look up at the end of the game and have given up 23 points and 350 yards and it will have been a decent performance.


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bamameister
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
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Yes sir. They have simplified the defense allowing guys to eliminate a lot of thinking so they can just react to the play in front of them. Also playing a bit more zone allowing guys like Battle to make plays on the ball.



True enough. But Kentucky decided to get away from all the motion and shifts that were plaguing us for almost the entire first half. Until then we were again losing the edge and we were NOT in our gaps, dammit. It's a tired and worn out subject and I'm sick of talking about it, but it is what it is. I thought the talking heads made a great point about Dylan. He's still too worried about everyone else getting lined up correctly he's not seeing what's in front of him quick enough. Say what you will, but a very depleted Kentucky offense says we have some lingering man to man issues.



Allthatfades
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
We’ve been much much better. Our last three games have been against Kentucky, MSU, and Tennessee. So there is that to keep in mind.


bamameister
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
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We’ve been much much better. Our last three games have been against Kentucky, MSU, and Tennessee. So there is that to keep in mind.



It's a lot to keep in mind. Kentucky starts the first half looking like Ole Miss, without the pace, but tons of eye candy, and starts the second half coming out looking like Georgia. Go figure.
Next week, we are about to get a heavy as hell dose of eye candy for 4 quarters.

Morris is big on motion, a lot of pre-snap shifts going on with his spread version, essentially just misdirection on every freakin' snap.

And unlike the first half of Kentucky, we will get a ton of HUNH pace to go along with it.




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armytide373
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Kentucky decided to get away from all the motion and shifts that were plaguing us for almost the entire first half
It looked like Stoops had stolen Malzahns Waffle House Menu call sheet. It was very effective. Not sure why they went away from it as soon as they did


bamameister
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
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It looked like Stoops had stolen Malzahn's Waffle House Menu call sheet. It was very effective. Not sure why they went away from it as soon as they did




Especially when you are doing it with the starting running back, top 2 tight ends, and an OL out with COVID. I'm just glad that we see this nonsensical stuff in other coaches as well.



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East Coast Band
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
Have we played a decent offense since Ole Miss?


Glorious
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
Doesn’t seem like any of the elite offenses have a great defense. Most analytical rankings have us squarely in the top 15ish defenses and improving. Love what im seeing from the young guys


Remiden
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
I still think the biggest issue the defense has is the linebackers consistently do not know where the ball is. I am not sure what needs to happen to fix this problem. I saw both Harris and Moses go the wrong direction and get caught up in blocks several times yesterday.


Vidic
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I am too. I think the defense is good enough to win a championship. The offense is elite enough that if the defense can get a couple of stops or force a turnover or 2 they can beat anybody. Especially the way some other top teams defenses have looked


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bamameister
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
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I still think the biggest issue the defense has is the linebackers consistently do not know where the ball is. I am not sure what needs to happen to fix this problem. I saw both Harris and Moses go the wrong direction and get caught up in blocks several times yesterday.



Because they really are the heartbeat in our scheme. Dylan is the general and we've always set up our defense this way in our Nickle. If we go south with our reads we are in big trouble. But to be fair, I saw our D-Line getting pushed off the LOS in the first half. The effort and energy just weren't good to start the game.

What was good though, our defense looked like they were playing some matchup zone underneath and it was balls to the walls in the second half with our energy level. Best anticipation I've seen from Battle all season. The guy came within a hair's breath of 2 pick-sixes.


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phil4bama
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
What worked against the defense yesterday?

Pre-snap eye candy with motion, unbalanced formations, and shifts that absolutely blew our minds. It caused missed assignments, inability to set and hold the edge, and guys roaming free. Kentucky was able to gash us running the ball and their tight end and backs were uncovered on pass plays. I was worried about Wilson hurting us with his legs, but that was seldom attempted to my shock and surprise. Then they rolled over and played dead.

Short version: the things that have worked against Bama’s defense continued to work. Nothing has changed. Better offensive minds will continue to exploit these weaknesses and not let up. Gus will be the first to try since Kiffin.


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bigpapamac
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
I don’t know if our defense has gotten better or if the offenses we’ve played have just been garbage, or some combination of the two. As others have said, everything Auburn does offensively (motion, odd formations, misdirection, running the ball) is what we struggle with so we’ll find out Saturday.


bamameister
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
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I don’t know if our defense has gotten better or if the offenses we’ve played have just been garbage, or some combination of the two. As others have said, everything Auburn does offensively (motion, odd formations, misdirection, running the ball) is what we struggle with so we’ll find out Saturday.




When you can overwhelm teams with superior talent it always takes a little longer to figure out. I've watched Ohio State give up some yardage and big scores so far. Barely getting out of Columbus with their lives yesterday. Clemson will give up points and tend to struggle against teams they shouldn't. Overwhelming talent has them right where we are so far.

The answers are coming soon for everyone.



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narddogg81
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
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Dylan Moses is the only one playing poorly IMO.
and yet he's leading the team in tackles, is second in tfl, and forth in sacks
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1BamaRTR
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re: Our defense since the Ole Miss game...
Shane Lee had better base numbers then Christian Harris did last year. Doesn’t mean he played better then Harris.





Also as a side, the pass rush is still a concern. Currently the lowest sack per game rate under Saban. It doesn’t really matter versus teams like Kentucky, but they have to get to the QB better against teams like Florida, Clemson, OSU, etc.


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