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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)

Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:23 pm to
Dennis Prager said it well, "Would New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts be shutting down if Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina and Florida were seeing the vast majority of cases and deaths from COVID19?"
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:43 pm to
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When you see a story like that, you wonder if the lockdown was really counterproductive. The whole point was to prevent hospitals from becoming overwhelmed but it could have a huge impact on future medical services and the biggest employer (and industry anchor) in Birmingham.



Forget Birmingham. UAB isn't going anywhere because of the specialization they do. More important and devastating to people is that you're likely to see a vast number of rural hospitals and small urgent cares go bankrupt leaving people with nowhere to get care for anything.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:44 pm to
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Dennis Prager said it well, "Would New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts be shutting down if Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina and Florida were seeing the vast majority of cases and deaths from COVID19?"


They'd be mocking and victim blaming us for our poor diets, underlying conditions, obesity and manage to sneak religion in there somewhere too.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:54 pm to
LINK ]OU planning to resume in-person classes in the fall (247Sports)
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:43 pm to
Don't forget Bill Maher. He would be real kind and sympathetic.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 9:06 pm to
LINK ]194 new coronavirus cases in Alabama: Lt. Gov. claims ’15 days of downward trajectory’ (AL.com)

LINK ]Reopening of America accelerates as states prepare to relax coronavirus restrictions (Washington Post)

LINK ]WHO says no evidence shows that having coronavirus prevents a second infection (CNN)
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13925 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 9:49 pm to
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OU planning to resume in-person classes in the fall (247Sports

Best news I’ve seen today. Hopefully this starts the domino effect.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20027 posts
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:19 pm to
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Best news I’ve seen today. Hopefully this starts the domino effect.


Witj some of the Governors and Mayors opening too early they are really putting this domino effect in danger.

Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 10:59 am to
I think Kemp said it well,
"As it is, these decisions [whether to open a business or not in Georgia] will be made by the people, and not by the government. When customers decide that it is safe to patronize businesses, then business will resume. In Georgia, there will be no protests to open up the state."
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/26/20 at 1:24 pm to
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I think Kemp said it well,
"As it is, these decisions [whether to open a business or not in Georgia] will be made by the people, and not by the government.


I fully realize that my opinion on this is informed by being in Brooklyn NY and not a more rural area with few cases.

However, while Kemp's quote sounds good, people where I'm at are more concerned with people that have never taken this seriously at all making sound "decisions".

Just witnessing what's happened in my neighborhood, I think a lot more could be reopened soon because of the extremely high percentage of people acting very responsibly.

However, when I go to the neighborhood where my shop is located it's quite honestly a bit depressing. NY merely evening out in cases the last week is being greeted like the flood gates have opened by a lot of 20-somethings down there.

This post was edited on 4/26/20 at 3:27 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22641 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 3:46 pm to
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More important and devastating to people is that you're likely to see a vast number of rural hospitals and small urgent cares go bankrupt leaving people with nowhere to get care for anything.


No doubt. The ripple effect among the healthcare sector is going to be tragic. I talked to an ER doctor the other day who said they are about to lay people off because their unit has seen such a dramatic decrease in traffic.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16161 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 8:10 pm to
I have been in the EMS business either as a volunteer or paid since 1998 and I have never seen anything like it. Nobody calls us for BS runs and when we show up at the ER with the legit stuff they’ve got little or nothing going on.

Everyone in all levels of emergency medicine knows people waste the resources terribly but nobody expected them to all quit doing it at once.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14906 posts
Posted on 4/26/20 at 9:37 pm to
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I talked to an ER doctor the other day who said they are about to lay people off because their unit has seen such a dramatic decrease in traffic


I can see this really going forward . TBH, in my hometown , the ER was always just full of people who shouldn’t be there anyway . Not every sniffle needs an ER visit
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 8:43 am to
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I think Kemp said it well,
"As it is, these decisions [whether to open a business or not in Georgia] will be made by the people, and not by the government. When customers decide that it is safe to patronize businesses, then business will resume. In Georgia, there will be no protests to open up the state."


The biggest issue is they let people in the beginning do this but recommendations were not followed. The sad part is if Kemp and others like him are wrong we may end up like this until January.

People need to remember the US who is just starting to ramp up testing in more areas and has still only tested .01% of the people in the US. We have no idea who currently has it or had it. Unless it is critical you are told to stay home and you never get tested.

Not even sure testing will help to be honest at this point. You can have the virus and spread it long before you get the symptoms.

In regards to the customers deciding, they are only customers if they have the funds to spend. Many will not when this is said and done outside of necessities. Even if they do they will be frugal to make sure they are not in this situation again if what many are predicting is just the first wave this year and expect it to return.

I find it amusing people think if we magically reopening the economy today all will be back to normal. I do understand the socialization need for people to not feel confined but if we are not careful we may be confined a lot longer then needed.

And for the record all the polls out there taken by people(which I know may not be the best indicator) have shown around 8 out of 10 people think the country should not reopen just yet.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 8:46 am
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5812 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:26 am to
List of schools who have announced they'll be re-opening in the Fall.

LINK

It'll be updated as list grows.

quote:

California Baptist, Christopher Newport, Drury, North Carolina State, North Dakota State, Oakland, Trine and Wake Forest Universities; Haverford, Macalester, and Merrimack Colleges; the Claremont Colleges; Iowa’s public universities; the University of Nebraska system; the Universities of Colorado and Oklahoma; and the Utah System of Higher Education.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 9:28 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16161 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:42 am to
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I can see this really going forward


Be nice, but it isn't happening.

The one and ONLY reason they aren't there now is that their fear of the 'rona is overriding their normal reactions.

Once that fear subsides, the 2am sore toe will go right back to calling 911.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
2241 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:47 am to
I think the Purdue Univ president said they will re open.
He said the students have very little risk.

A retired Stanford University School of Med professor wrote an Op-ed on Friday. He basically said its time to reopen. No more dangerous than the Flu. He basically said older people and compromised need to be careful, but everyone else should go back to work.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:53 am to
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List of schools who have announced they'll be re-opening in the Fall.

LINK

It'll be updated as list grows.


Does the article just list the schools or does it go in detail how they are reopening. It is behind a signup so can not read it. The reason I ask is NC State is part of the UNC system and no decision has been made yet regarding the fall. All schools are expecting to open but they are still considering only online for most and limiting required in person for labs. No confirmation has been sent out yet except the other day we received possible contingency plans for the fall.

Wake Forest is private so I have no idea what they are doing.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5812 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:02 am to
These are schools opening campuses in the Fall and welcoming back students.

As someone else posted, Purdue announced they're opening their campus this Fall.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 10:04 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 10:02 am to
In regards to GA reopening I have many of the business will not due to cost of safety measures required. Others said the liability risk they assume for their employees or customers that come in.

I also seen it mentioned that we may see businesses requiring customers to sign waivers before entering to alleviate risk by the business.
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