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On the pass to Metchie for the winning

Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:03 am
Posted by PBD4BAMA
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:03 am
2 point conversion did anyone else happen to notice how wide open Slade was in the middle of the end zone? I never even noticed it until I watched the replay.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1346 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:13 am to
I’d still trust Metchie in double coverage over a wide open Bolden right now. Bolden was clutch Saturday though, but I still remember that dropped pass at Florida.
Posted by BFANLC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:55 am to
I saw it, the route trees and play design are what I watch when I watch a game. If you focus on just what our receivers are doing on pass plays you'll see why our oc is an issue.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 5:51 am to
Once the rarely used RB went in motion to the right, I knew he was going to be a decoy and the play was going left.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15175 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:02 am to
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saw it, the route trees and play design are what I watch when I watch a game. If you focus on just what our receivers are doing on pass plays you'll see why our oc is an issue.


Exactly.

Then see how little we use motion or shifts to create mismatches before the snap and you get the entire picture of why we're so predictable and dependent on Bryce to make magic happen.

It's why Metchie calls him the GOAT.

That play wasn't even BOB's call. Bryce made adjustments to those routes.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16981 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:45 am to
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I’d still trust Metchie in double coverage over a wide open Bolden right now. Bolden was clutch Saturday though, but I still remember that dropped pass at Florida.


What does this man have to do to get you people to get over his one drop? Metchie and Jameson had drops in just this last game….
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44348 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:52 am to
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Then see how little we use motion or shifts to create mismatches before the snap and you get the entire picture of why we're so predictable and dependent on Bryce to make magic happen.


We also don't stack routes very often, or use a lot of bunch formations to scheme guys open with picks, and there's rarely any drag or shallow crossing routes. The major flaw in everything BooB does with the passing offense is that there are no layers to the play design. It's either a designed WR screen or everything is run 10+ yards downfield. The only reason Bryce has been pretty successful against the blitz this year is because he has the mobility to extend the play. It's certainly not the play design.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:07 am to
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What does this man have to do to get you people to get over his one drop? Metchie and Jameson had drops in just this last game….


It’s not just the one drop. It’s the countless times the ball has been just a little out of his reach but we as fans are convinced someone else would’ve caught the pass.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:13 am to
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We also don't stack routes very often,


The one time that we did on Saturday, it was a huge 3rd down conversion down field iirc.
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:15 am to
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did anyone else happen to notice how wide open Slade was in the middle of the end zone?


After Jamo went down I believe Metchie was targeted something like 24 times. Slade cant create any separation, and he has a small catch radius. He's a hard target to hit, and I think Bryce has simply learned to look elsewhere almost exclusively.

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I’d still trust Metchie in double coverage over a wide open Bolden right now. Bolden was clutch Saturday though


Slade played the entire game, and had 1 catch for 6 yards. Trey Sanders had 2 catches for 12 yards in limited playing time. Jamo had 2 catches for 43 yards in one quarter. I dont enjoy pointing out Slades lack of production, but I'd like to see someone else get an opportunity to help the team.

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Once the rarely used RB went in motion to the right, I knew he was going to be a decoy and the play was going left.


To be fair we did hit Leary for a TD with that same motion the prior week, but yeah, our scheme is very predictable, and isn't doing the OL, QB, WR's, or RB's any favors.

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It's why Metchie calls him the GOAT.

That play wasn't even BOB's call. Bryce made adjustments to those routes.


Why I keep saying Bryce is carrying this team on his shoulders, and IMO deserves the Heisman. He's having to make his own checks presnap as a true sophomore. His fricking OC is in a skybox.

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What does this man have to do to get you people to get over his one drop? Metchie and Jameson had drops in just this last game


That's not accurate. He muffed a punt in front of his own goal line last week and it was a miracle he recovered it. Could have very well cost us the game. The drop at UF was huge, and his history of drops and muffed punts goes back to last season. He doesn't have good hands. He cant create any separation. His catch radius is so small... Bryce has to throw a dime to connect with Slade. He's simply not athletic enough to be starting and taking all these snaps from other players like Brooks or Holden. How many throws this year have grazed his fingers and he's like 2 inches off the grass trying to catch it ? Brooks could jump over his head to catch a ball. He gets tackled by his own shadow seemingly... seriously has to have the worst YAC of all time. He played the entire game with our main WR ejected from the game and had 1 catch for 6 yards, and I believe that came in OT on a route that he ran six yards, turned around, and the ball hit him in the numbers. I think there is a place for Slade- especially as a RB now that numbers are thin. He could be a Danny Woodhead type back maybe, but lined up against athletic DB's isn't working for him. I'm sorry my opinion will upset some. I truly am.

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We also don't stack routes very often, or use a lot of bunch formations to scheme guys open with picks, and there's rarely any drag or shallow crossing routes. The major flaw in everything BooB does with the passing offense is that there are no layers to the play design


Oh, it's even worse than that... several times Saturday receivers are almost pulling more defenders into harms way, and making the window Bryce is trying to throw into even smaller and more dangerous. On Brooks TD pass if you pay attention Slade almost ran into the same area and brought two defenders with him. The routes are almost designed to crowd the area we are going with the ball at times. They are either very poorly executed rub routes, or just pure chaos. It's a real shite show.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 8:17 am
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14473 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:22 am to
Bryce's movement around the pocket and ability to keep his eyes up and still make throws is amazing. His accuracy leaves some to be desired AT TIMES, but I'm certain that will continue to improve.

I know the year has been a bit of a letdown, but what he's done is absolutely incredible.

69%, 3,901 yards, 40 TD, 4 INT
Posted by AjA77
Member since Aug 2015
1124 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:30 am to
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I saw it, the route trees and play design are what I watch when I watch a game. If you focus on just what our receivers are doing on pass plays you'll see why our oc is an issue.


There so many times there running into each others space,that its almost a train wreck.
Metchie and Bryce street balled that drive to tie it.

I will say 19 was wide open for a score down the sideline first half and Bryce went to the wrong person.
But 19 could have walked in down the middle on the brooks touchdown.There were so many times AU was dropping so deep on the snap 19 could have turn around off the snap and been hit in stride for 10 yrd gains.
Also he could have went 5 sat down and catch & run all night.I dont know why in games adjustments like that dont happen, when our OC is up top.

Bryce is going to need 19,81 to play like they did in the Miami game to beat UGA.because it should be 12 personnel unless we turn to youth on the o-line right side.

This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 8:36 am
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:33 am to
Yep. I saw it. I think metchie was the confidence throw.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 8:45 am
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4796 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:39 am to
Maybe we are planning on featuring the TEs in the Georgia game. Perhaps that’s why we have been reluctant to run hot routes with them even with Bryce under extreme pressure. Other wise our play calling under blitzes makes little sense.
One can hope.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1346 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:44 am to
It’s not just the one drop at Florida. It’s the fumbles and muffed punts as well. Hopefully it’s all behind him.
Posted by PowHound
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:03 am to
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It’s not just the one drop at Florida. It’s the fumbles and muffed punts as well.


Hell, if he were capable of taking it to the house every now and then, or was catching 5-6 balls a game for 60 yards I'd just chalk the drops up to the game, but what are we getting for the risk and lack of production ?

Jamo is good for a drop per game, but he's also good for 100+ yards receiving a couple TD's, and he may take one to the house every time he touches the ball. It's not perfect, but it's worth it.

Bryce needs someone dependable in the slot that can create some separation quickly so he can get the ball out when he's under duress.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75840 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:09 am to
Watch the TD pass to Brooks again.

Billingsley was wide fricking open running down the seam.

Auburn completely fricked themselves on that play.
Posted by Gustave
Member since Nov 2015
3389 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:10 am to
The 2 Safety's were discussing something before the play. I had the feeling they were going to go rogue and blow some assignments.
Posted by AjA77
Member since Aug 2015
1124 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:24 am to
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Bryce needs someone dependable in the slot that can create some separation quickly so he can get the ball out when he's under duress.


The development of Holden/Brooks especially on sideline routes would allow Metchie and J.williams to work from the slot.That's what we have done over the last few yrs moving all our WR in and out.It created problems in secondaries.

If we can also get some of those one on one shots that jobe gives up, especially when we have 3 wr over 6-1.The kid Holden can really move for his size.
Then it would allow two killers in the slot like Metchie and J.william to work from there as well.

Again leary should be playing more. but the Brooks/Holden as one on one threats will move safeties over to help and allow Metchie, Williams, Te's more room to work.

Metchie,williams or leary on those slades revere into the flat routes is money all day. As a threat it will make Uga LB'ers have to cover space, move safeties.
It also allows the drag routes behind the lb'er if they run to the flat threat.

Its about being a threat from the slot and its not anything against Slade.If you use Metchie or Williams as that threat and slade is on the field.
He not capable to catch anything over the top as he more a go to a spot.Its sometimes about being a threat to open something up else were.

This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 9:26 am
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:25 am to
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he has a small catch radius


I think he has the smallest we’ve seen under Saban.
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