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Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:52 am to
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I don’t know how many times this has to be said but the NCAA could have the best lawyers in the world and still lose these cases. It’s not a matter of the NCAA screwing up, it’s the fact that this model was allowed to exist for so long people think it was legal in the first place


Well, also, there is no appetite to carve out exceptions for the NCAA in the judiciary.

I may be more cynical than most but I don’t really prescribe to the concept that law is written in stone and exists outside of politics. Law is politics and the politics of sports amateurism have turned against the NCAA.
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Parts unknown
Member since May 2014
7940 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:54 am to
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Where do you guys get 7 figures now? If osu offered 2 mill and we were at 1 mill, how does that equate to 7 figures.


First posting that DeBoer was getting paid $4.2MM base at Alabama and now this.

Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
1505 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:12 am to
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Where do you guys get 7 figures now? If osu offered 2 mill and we were at 1 mill, how does that equate to 7 figures. Maybe someone in Tuscaloosa just has brains. You can pay several top olinemen for that kind of money


Hey man it’s cool. We all post things when we are not thinking clearly or are drunk or whatever.

But please, I’m begging you, you have to explain what was in you head when you posted this. I have to know. I just have to know.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:14 am
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
25708 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:12 am to
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Where do you guys get 7 figures now?


Also, RiverCityTider as a child in art class.

Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34614 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:15 am to
Agree. Both players are from the same area of the state too.

Foley and Saraland
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11040 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:15 am to
Allison's first essay just going to be the 14 words, eh?
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
19536 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:59 am to
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quote:Yes Was it for 1 year or spread over multiple years? OSU rumor is $2mill for 2 years.


It was all at once, just to keep him. There would have been more the following year. But the sponsors we assembled were legit. It’s just really disappointing.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
19536 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:00 am to
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Boz, how is Downs situation not considered an inducement to attend OSU? That's still not allowed by the NCAA, correct?


I don’t know how it’s above board honestly.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45964 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:07 am to
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I don’t know how it’s above board honestly.


So why don't we just turn them in? I mean honestly that's the only way forward with all this. If half a dozen teams get turned in whenever a guy hits the portal because he was induced to do so, it'd bury the NCAA in so much shite that they'd have to start bringing the hammer down to try to get it in check.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4646 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:11 am to
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Law is politics and the politics of sports amateurism have turned against the NCAA.


Give the man a stogie, he gets it.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12561 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:12 am to
What if our deal didn't pass he smell test?
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4646 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:23 am to
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I don’t know how many times this has to be said but the NCAA could have the best lawyers in the world and still lose these cases. It’s not a matter of the NCAA screwing up, it’s the fact that this model was allowed to exist for so long people think it was legal in the first place.


This plus infinity times a zillion.

I just told someone in another thread who was absolutely sure that something would be done to rein this in that he was making the mistake of looking at this as a fan and approaching it from a competitive sports standpoint, when that is completely irrelevant.

This is the inevitable result of college football morphing from a sport into a multibillion dollar a year business, and the NCAA, schools, coaches and especially fans thinking that the people who actually put their arses and blood on the line for our entertainment should be satisfied with a cut of the action that to us seems astronomical but in the grand scheme of this multibillion dollar a year business is a pittance.

IMO there is no restriction of what’s going on now that will survive a restraint of trade court challenge in the 21st century. None. There is no savior, not Saban on a white horse or anyone else, coming over the horizon to restore things to how fans who are rightfully angry that what they want is not being given any consideration here, and will not be, think they should be.

It is what it is. Eventually things will stabilize, but the sport is forever changed.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45964 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:36 am to
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This is the inevitable result of college football morphing from a sport into a multibillion dollar a year business


Yep. The NCAA fricked up horribly by not pivoting when their member institutions started making money hand over fist 15-20 years ago. One of the immutable laws of business in this country is that the more money you make the more often you're going to have to defend yourself from lawsuits. The NCAA obviously missed that memo, because they refused to acknowledge that there is even a business component to all of this, much less that it is an outright business.
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
2310 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:42 am to
I’m not disagreeing with you at all, but more than likely the powers at be inside the ncaa are on the take as well.

If that kinda of money ($2mill) is being giving to a kid to play football in college than more than likely these boosters have no problem buying the ncaa to turn they’re heads

I don’t blame the parents or the kids, $2mill is a lot of fricking money to turned down even if you got money it’s still $2mill regardless. And I dare say anyone on here that had a kid that was being offered that kinda of money and the other side couldn’t match it would be stupid not to explore it or except it. You would have to be filthy rich not too

Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14632 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:36 am to
Dumb question I guess but since none of the players are FORCED to play college sports, can the NCAA/colleges not say “This is our product and we will give every student athlete 3,000 a month, the best academic tutors, meals , mental health counselors , access to physical training etc , tuition towards a degree…. Take it or go play somewhere else “?
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12728 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:56 am to
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Dumb question I guess but since none of the players are FORCED to play college sports, can the NCAA/colleges not say “This is our product and we will give every student athlete 3,000 a month, the best academic tutors, meals , mental health counselors , access to physical training etc , tuition towards a degree…. Take it or go play somewhere else “?



In reality the NCAA could change how they operate but not sure colleges would stay members.

The real issue right now is this has far more to deal with politics and outside forces outside of sports than it does NIL, transfer, or media deals. This is all being heavily pushed through political agendas. The left especially through the Dept of Labor is using this as a launching pad to make athletes be classified as employees. This is being driven by special interest groups that are financially supporting politicians and these mainly are the unions who are struggling nationally.

A lot of power behind the scenes driving this. This will get far worse before it gets better and the trajectory it is own the players, NCAA, nor the universities are going to have a say in this.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 11:58 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50601 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:00 pm to
No ill wishes toward Proctor, but I hope he enjoys score 14 or fewer points a game.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
25708 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:02 pm to
Kinda crazy to leave Alabama for Iowa.
Posted by JojoTide
Member since Jan 2024
119 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:04 pm to
Homesick…
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4249 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Kinda crazy to leave Alabama for Iowa


That's where he's from. They put OL in the NFL. We flipped him from them. His girlfriend is still there. Most logical transfer I've seen.
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