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re: Offensive Line and Running Backs Worst since…
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:14 am to UASports23
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:14 am to UASports23
Grubb has gotten away from the Georgia game plan which was quick throws. This has caused more difficulty for the OL and run game.
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Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:59 am to UASports23
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It’s mostly the scheme IMO. We have talent to run the ball. We have the OL and the RBs.
Right now the best run plays are WR jets and runs to the outside. If folks can control the edge, it’s tough sledding.
Run scheme and game plan is usually on the OLC even if they don't actually call the plays. I'm starting to think that Chris Kapilovic has been a staffing miss. Perhaps we should be seeing if Scott Huff from UDub is interested in making a reunion with DeBoer. I want to say Huff is an assistant TE coach for the Rams right now. What they were doing in Washington was varied and well executed. It is, quite simply, not what we're seeing here at all.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:00 am to imatider
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Shula. In fact, Bama’s rushing attack in 2025 is worse than every other Bama team, over past 25 years…save 2006. O Line can’t create holes - and Running Backs have the inability to find a hole. Many times, I have watched Miller hit the hole called, when there was an opening elsewhere…and he just couldn’t find it. One dimensional teams will struggle to win championships.
Ken Darby was twice the running back Jam is. I keep hearing about how Hill is a freak...I dont see it
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:01 am to In Hsv
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Grubb has gotten away from the Georgia game plan which was quick throws. This has caused more difficulty for the OL and run game.
Grubb has gotten away from it because teams have started flooding the underneath zones and forcing us to work the ball down the field. if we could run a team out of these defenses then we'd be golden.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:14 am to Diego Ricardo
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They had a pretty good run scheme at UDub but it was a complimentary run game. They did have a game or two where they ran all over some teams though. Their 2023 team had a ~1200 yard rusher in 15 games. So ~80 ypg on the ground from their starting tailback. How many times has that happened in almost two seasons here? Frankly, we aren't seeing that scheme here because our linemen are not good at pull and cross blocks as a unit. Our center is our best at executing pull blocks but it is hard to build a run plan around a center pulling a ton.
Thank you for explaining what I have been trying to explain, a lot better than I was doing it.
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:19 am to Glorious
Its not the backs, its the linemen. Theyre missing blocks and getting beat off the snap. Thats the problem.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:24 am to SoFla Tideroller
That ain’t what these coaches do although there are times when you absolutely have to do that.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:27 am to imatider
I’m starting to wonder what role having a read option style of play in 2023 and 2024 has played in this struggle to return to a traditional run style.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:51 am to CapstoneGrad06
It's hard to run when there's nowhere to run. There's penetration on every attempt we don't get the plays blocked. I think it's scheme related our linemen just are not built to do what they are being asked to do with all the pulling double teams and reach blocks.
Seattle NFL people were griping about Grubb and the lack of a ground game,.
Seattle NFL people were griping about Grubb and the lack of a ground game,.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 1:07 pm to InkStainedWretch
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DeBoer’s and Grubb’s running game when at full efficiency
When would you say that the 114th rated running game nationally has ever functioned at full efficiency?
Posted on 11/9/25 at 1:11 pm to antibarner
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Seattle NFL people were griping about Grubb and the lack of a ground game,.
28th out of 32. Not even 100 yards a game.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 1:23 pm to BamaGradinTn
As someone noted, their final year at Washington, they had a 1,200-yard rusher who averaged 17 carries a game and scored 16 touchdowns. And if you throw Penix completely out of the mix to account for any sacks, they had 356 rushing plays to 376 passing plays. DeBoer and Grubb do not run an air raid.
The problem is that what they ideally … I will say that again, IDEALLY, I think they are just throwing s**t against the wall right now in hopes that something will click … want to do with the running game as far as plays and especially offensive blocking schemes is not what old-school Alabama fans want out of a running game.
And people are upset because we have a chance at the big trophy right now, and here we are throwing s**t against the wall with the running game without elite backs and with linemen like Proctor who they’d have never recruited in a zillion years but people like that is what Saban wanted.
The problem is that what they ideally … I will say that again, IDEALLY, I think they are just throwing s**t against the wall right now in hopes that something will click … want to do with the running game as far as plays and especially offensive blocking schemes is not what old-school Alabama fans want out of a running game.
And people are upset because we have a chance at the big trophy right now, and here we are throwing s**t against the wall with the running game without elite backs and with linemen like Proctor who they’d have never recruited in a zillion years but people like that is what Saban wanted.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 1:23 pm to In Hsv
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Hsv
Grubb has gotten away from the Georgia game plan which was quick throws. This has caused more difficulty for the OL and run game.
This is what I'm seeing
Posted on 11/9/25 at 1:25 pm to BFANLC
Can't use the UGA game plan if opponents adjust to it. Not being able to run the ball is causing MAJOR issues with the passing game.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 1:26 pm to BamaGradinTn
And the problem was they had a s**t offensive line too and this year they’re a whopping 22nd in YPG and 31st in yards per carry, a robust 3.7 yards a play. So maybe it wasn’t all Grubb?
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 11/9/25 at 1:37 pm to Bham Bammer
Meh lsu moved the ball down the field using short passes 1st drive. Not saying making it all of your offense but I saw several run em all deep play calls with no multiple layered route tree.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 1:39 pm to BamaGradinTn
That's fine, quit wasting a down and throw on first down. Might as well go for the deep ball every first down. We wouldn't be in any worst shape most of the time.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 1:41 pm to BFANLC
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Meh lsu moved the ball down the field using short passes 1st drive.
What does that have to do with our offense?
We are running deep passes because the defense is playing to take away the underneath stuff.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 2:09 pm to Bham Bammer
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What does that have to do with our offense?
Shows that it can be done....even this late in the year
How were they taking it away? They blitzed often that leaves the short passing game available .
Believe in Tys fumble all the receivers ran deep route and there was a nice open area underneath.
Posted on 11/9/25 at 2:14 pm to BFANLC
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Shows that it can be done....even this late in the year
Lots of teams also ran the ball for good yardage yesterday. Doesn't mean we can too, because we clearly can't.
They take it away by playing tighter coverage. Makes them susceptible to the deep ball, but we don't do a good job on converting it, so it's obviously worth the gamble. LSU has a good secondary. OU isn't nearly as good, but they can pressure the passer without blitzing, so that's a problem.
This post was edited on 11/9/25 at 2:15 pm
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