re: Off-Topic: Governor’s Race

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QUESTION: If Alabama was able break away from the U.S. and be their own country, do you really believe that the state would accomplish what you've referred to?

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Probably not...but when im faced with the decision of someone more likely to fall in the big gov camp and one less likely to do so, im gonna chose the latter.

I think there were points in our history where the hole wasnt so big and we could have crawled out of it with a little bit of sacrifice and effort. Now the hole is a giant crater and im saying we should at least stop digging before it collapses in on us.

*I feel like I do need to comment a bit more on this. I do think at some point(maybe 5 years, maybe 50) it will be prudent for some states to break away in some capacity. At some people we just have to recognize that what the citizens of one region want and what other regions want are so different that any compromise will not work for anyone involved. The more Alabama gets supported by the federal government, the harder it will be to make that decision.

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When you vote for massive spending bills, you arent changing your political ideology, youve already changed it.

Lets say Alabama was getting zero federal dollars...do you think Alabama members of the House and Senate would be voting to take tax money from Alabamians to send elsewhere?

If Alabama got zero federal dollars, these Congressmen would instead be demanding you lower federal taxes and decrease spending. We all say we want these things...then we send people the same ol people to DC.

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How short-sighted can you be?
So Alabama gets zero funding, and two senators and six house members that rarely vote differently from their Republican brethren.

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How short-sighted can you be?

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If you want to have an adult discussion im all for it. If you want me to write you off as another hack and ignore you, then by all means keep saying things like this.

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So Alabama gets zero funding, and two senators and six house members that rarely vote differently from their Republican brethren.

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No, in my scenario, there is no way Alabama congressmen would have voted for the any of the massive Omnibus spending bills.

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So go ahead and try. Quit your corporate job and move where you must generate your own power and water. Can't be gas powered as that industry is funded. Grow your own food because food industry is subsidized. No police or hospitals can assist you, federal funding... get the idea? It's impossible.

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None of this makes any sense in the context of this conversation.

Without Medicare and Obama care most hospitals would either close or significantly reduce devices.
I nearly point out the extreme to show your political desire for zero federal support or interference is not feasible. If you can't live your political viewpoint it's worthless. It is a solid goal to try and limit wasteful spending and in this we agree.

A nation can only go as far as its people allow. The past 50 years we've seen back J ward countries like South Korea, and Singapore become wealthy. Alabama has great farmland, Mises Institute, and access to the Gulf.

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No, in my scenario, there is no way Alabama congressmen would have voted for the any of the massive Omnibus spending bills.

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And if they hadn't, what would have been different now?
"If you want to have an adult discussion im all for it. If you want me to write you off as another hack and ignore you, then by all means keep saying things like this."
I'm very serious, and not trying to denigrate you! I honestly don't understand your thinking.
It's actually more of a pie-in-the-sky level of thinking that democrats are guilty of, to me!

Here come the gas pump stickers. LOL

None at all?
For example, you dont think there is a need for interstate highways. Back to the good old days? And, you really cant just say all regulations are bad, either.

The problem with social spending is after you put in a give away program, its difficult to take it away. Those politicians are just buying votes with those programs.