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re: Off Topic: Governor's race. Walt Maddox vs. Kay Ivey
Posted on 6/14/18 at 4:16 pm to JustGetItRight
Posted on 6/14/18 at 4:16 pm to JustGetItRight
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I don’t believe the metoo allegations against Moore at all. I am prett sure they were a well orchestrated hit job. Having said that
We will agree to disagree. Like I said, even if he didn't do anything sexual with them, its still creepy.
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Is spot on. When he was elected to the court the first time, he refused the AG’s offer to provided him top quality national level representation and instead used attorneys who didn’t even bother to make filing deadlines and then when he unsurprisingly lost he portrayed Bill Pryor as the bad guy for actually following the rule of law. Pryor tried to help him all the way and Moore rebuffed him. He never intended to win the case. He wanted the publicity to paint himself as a martyr when he ran for governor in the next election cycle.
Hopefully he is gone for good now and good riddance.
I have no doubt that if Moore had gone to the Senate, he would've absolutely welcomed any kind of discipline action. It would've played right into his hands. He doesn't want to actually solve anything because all he cares about is himself.
I'm not saying Doug Jones is great but at least he is a functioning Senator. He might be liberal and will vote with Dems half the time, but he at least can serve as a representative. You weren't going to see Moore help recruit businesses or work on legislation that brought value to Alabama. You could tell by his ads, speeches, and debate performance that he had no intentions of actually serving the State.
The sad thing is if Moore had won, he would've served until he died. We really dodged a bullet. That's why I hate the current primary system. It makes good the enemy of perfect.
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Posted on 6/14/18 at 4:44 pm to FairhopeTider
Moore will run again in 2020. I'd put my next paycheck on it.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:47 am to The Spleen
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Moore will run again in 2020. I'd put my next paycheck on it.
He has nothing else better to do
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:24 am to The Spleen
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Moore will run again in 2020. I'd put my next paycheck on it.
I wouldn't bet against but I think he's done. I mean, he gets a six figure pension from the State of Alabama. Go do missionary work or something. Anything to leave the people of Alabama alone.
Of course if he ran again in 2020, I hope the Alabama GOP get into a smokey backroom before the primary and decide to rally around one other candidate so Moore doesn't take advantage of a plurality to get into a runoff.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:47 pm to FairhopeTider
Where's the KKK when you need them?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:11 am to imjustafatkid
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imjustafatkid
Hey Roy.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:24 am to FairhopeTider
This got as off topic as I thought it would so allow me to come round about....
Roy Moore was an outlandish incident in American politics and I'm glad he lost.
I know plenty of assholes who voted for Jones and plenty good people who voted for Moore.
A person's vote on that election doesn't effect my vote in any way shape or form. I'd vote for Ivey either way or Maddox either way depending on how well I think they'd govern the state.
Roy Moore was an outlandish incident in American politics and I'm glad he lost.
I know plenty of assholes who voted for Jones and plenty good people who voted for Moore.
A person's vote on that election doesn't effect my vote in any way shape or form. I'd vote for Ivey either way or Maddox either way depending on how well I think they'd govern the state.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 9:54 am to AHM21
ahm21
How much respect did you lose for wild bill by using the power of the Oval Office to pressure women into sex? How much respect have you lost for all the libs that supported him then and still support him now?
Classic lib double standard.
"We can do these things because we believe in evolution but you bible thumpers have to hold yourselves to a higher standard."
How much respect did you lose for wild bill by using the power of the Oval Office to pressure women into sex? How much respect have you lost for all the libs that supported him then and still support him now?
Classic lib double standard.
"We can do these things because we believe in evolution but you bible thumpers have to hold yourselves to a higher standard."
Posted on 6/17/18 at 3:05 pm to jryanw
Bill Clinton hasn’t been President for nearly 20 years. I was 11 when he left office.
I have no idea what his actions have to do with Kay Ivey turning a blind eye to Roy Moore being a disgusting Perv, other than you pulling the classic republican tactic of pivoting to Bill Clinton.
What does it have to do with Walt Maddox? If Maddox had turned a blind eye I would feel the same way about him.
I have no idea what his actions have to do with Kay Ivey turning a blind eye to Roy Moore being a disgusting Perv, other than you pulling the classic republican tactic of pivoting to Bill Clinton.
What does it have to do with Walt Maddox? If Maddox had turned a blind eye I would feel the same way about him.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 5:10 pm to AHM21
I was 15 when he left office. What does our age at the time have to do with anything? You still know what he did. You still know that your party supported him without blinking an eye. I think Roy Moore is a horrible human being and I didn't vote for him but to try and paint Gov Ivey with a broad brush because she voted for him is classic liberal hypocrisy.
Just in case anyone needs a refreshed here's what Clinton did while in office:
LINK
Just in case anyone needs a refreshed here's what Clinton did while in office:
LINK
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:24 pm to jryanw
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I was 15 when he left office. What does our age at the time have to do with anything? You still know what he did. You still know that your party supported him without blinking an eye
The Alabama GOP supported Bentley every step of the way!
Posted on 6/19/18 at 6:32 pm to stomp
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The Alabama GOP supported Bentley every step of the way!
No they did not. Bentley was a man without a country all the way back before his second inauguration. He couldn’t even find legislators to sponsor his bills.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:00 pm to JustGetItRight
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No they did not. Bentley was a man without a country all the way back before his second inauguration. He couldn’t even find legislators to sponsor his bills.
How many GOP office holders publicly condemned what he did before he stepped down?
Posted on 6/19/18 at 8:27 pm to JustGetItRight
Most politicians are just that, politicians!!!! Unfortunately its more about whats best for the damn party rather whats best for the people. We elect these jackasses to make decisions to better the country, not to serve their own agendas. Federal, State or local issues, makes no difference, they serve themselves. It'll never change!!! I have never voted on a democratic nominee for President. Not because I consider myself a Republican ( I'm not btw) but because I felt the better of the 2 evils were Republicans. I respect everyones right to vote their convictions and would hope all respect my rights as well. Its sad what what our Government has become. The senate race was much like the Presidential race, not much to pick from. I don't think Kay Ivey is a very good choice for Governor. Maddox has done a pretty good job as Mayor of Tuscaloosa. We need new life in Montgomery. Just my opinion.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:06 pm to stomp
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I was 15 when he left office. What does our age at the time have to do with anything? You still know what he did. You still know that your party supported him without blinking an eye The Alabama GOP supported Bentley every step of the way!
So you equate Clinton raping women and/or using his power to pressure women into sex to Bentley cheating on his wife? That's liberal logic at its finest.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:12 am to Lordofwrath88
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A person's vote on that election doesn't effect my vote in any way shape or form
That’s fair. I don’t blame regular people for voting either way in that election because it was a tough spot for people to be in. To me, the choice was clear but I didn’t expect everyone to share that view.
That said, I hold the Governor to a different standard and when she said that she believed the accusers but would vote for Moore any simply due to his party affiliation, that’s where I have an issue. There are just so many things wrong with that statement.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 8:13 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:30 am to jryanw
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Just in case anyone needs a refreshed here's what Clinton did while in office:
The article you linked details an incident that happened while Clinton was a gubernatorial candidate in Arkansas, not while he was in office.
At any rate, if you want to get into a pissing match over political hypocrisy, the latrines on both sides will end up pretty even.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:42 pm to stomp
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How many GOP office holders publicly condemned what he did before he stepped down?
Were you drunk the whole time?
The legislature had impeachment hearings going.
The AG had a criminal investigation going.
The nutjob auditor filed a formal ethics complaint.
There wasn’t one who DIDN’T call him out.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 6:54 am to JustGetItRight
I don't think impeachment hearings ever started. They got hung up in committee at the request of the AG's office.
And the AG's office slow played their investigation, and lo and behold the guy that slow played it was appointed to the vacated US Senate seat. That was what likely cost Luther Strange in the Senate primaries.
There were state Republicans that condemned it, but it wasn't the popular position within the party. The loudest voices were Ed Henry(who was just indicted) and nutball Jim Ziegler.
And the AG's office slow played their investigation, and lo and behold the guy that slow played it was appointed to the vacated US Senate seat. That was what likely cost Luther Strange in the Senate primaries.
There were state Republicans that condemned it, but it wasn't the popular position within the party. The loudest voices were Ed Henry(who was just indicted) and nutball Jim Ziegler.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 5:15 pm to The Spleen
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And the AG's office slow played their investigation, and lo and behold the guy that slow played it was appointed to the vacated US Senate seat.
I can tell you with firsthand knowledge that this is completely untrue. I know every single person who was on that team personally.
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That was what likely cost Luther Strange in the Senate primary
Yep, except remove the likely. It was the biggest example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory I've ever seen. Luther was too blinded by his desire to be a senator that he couldn't see how he would be destroyed.
Bentley appointed him with the hope that his appointee would replace the head of the public corruption unit and thus end the case but probably to his great shock, Marshall came in and not only kept Matt Hart but also recused himself and put a career Democrat in charge of the case.
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