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re: Mbakwe posting TikToks about how thankful we are to have him back. Arrogance on display.

Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8876 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:15 pm to
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We put these kids on pedestals.
Dude, this is the problem. The shitheads are rewarded with money and attention in 2024 in a way they really weren't in 2015. Combine that with the fact that coaches can't really discipline the way they used to for fear of running off a slew of callow 19 year olds into the transfer portal, and the generalized societal laissez faire attitude toward shitty behavior, and the end result is just a fun house mirror version of college football.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1207 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:17 pm to
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YStar

You continually have the worst takes
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17881 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:19 pm to
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You continually have the worst takes


It would appear that way when you think emotionally and are allergic to logic
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:30 pm to
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Dude, this is the problem. The shitheads are rewarded with money and attention in 2024 in a way they really weren't in 2015. Combine that with the fact that coaches can't really discipline the way they used to for fear of running off a slew of callow 19 year olds into the transfer portal, and the generalized societal laissez faire attitude toward shitty behavior, and the end result is just a fun house mirror version of college football.


Social media is one of the biggest mistakes our species has ever made.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17881 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Social media is one of the biggest mistakes our species has ever made.


The destruction of our society
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4195 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Dude, this is the problem. The shitheads are rewarded with money and attention in 2024 in a way they really weren't in 2015. Combine that with the fact that coaches can't really discipline the way they used to for fear of running off a slew of callow 19 year olds into the transfer portal, and the generalized societal laissez faire attitude toward shitty behavior, and the end result is just a fun house mirror version of college football.


Yep. And one day, in the not-so-distant future, fans will "opt out." There have already been studies that show that the younger generation does watch college football like we did.
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
3363 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:14 pm to
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He still comes back and you guys are still mad. Like WTF?

I’m with you on this one. Let it go folks.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
350,000 Post Karma
Member since Aug 2013
9422 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:23 pm to
I was expecting something much worse given the thread title. This is a nothing burger. And I'm in my old man yells at clouds stage.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4664 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:52 pm to
I tell you what's weird: Grown arse men watching a young kid on tik tok.

We all have done stupid shite at 18, 19 years old. Let him be him. It's not that deep to even post it on here, drawing attention to him for wrong reason.
Posted by _Hurricane_
Somewhere
Member since Feb 2016
6191 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:03 pm to
LMAO it’s not weird to talk about what our players are posting on social media. “Kids” getting paid millions are fair game for fans to pay attention to what they’re posting the day after leaving the transfer portal.
Posted by Chuck55
Attler, Alabama
Member since Oct 2020
4 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 3:55 pm to
It’s ridiculous these “kids” get ANYTHING til they prove themselves.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5537 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 11:57 pm to
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I tell you what's weird: Grown arse men watching a young kid on tik tok.


The attention people give him is what makes him money. It certainly isn't his practically non-existent stat line.

I don't follow any of these guys on social media because honestly I don't care anything about them now that they're all mercenaries. I will say that every time there's a thread like this it's filled with people defending the behavior, saying it doesn't mean anything. Then the same people are surprised in the season when we see selfish play, tantrums on the field, etc. It all emanates from the same place.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 12:04 am
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
24908 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:49 am to
The way to end it all and bring back sanity is make them sit a year if they transfer.

Sure portal on out. Collect your NIL. Go to your new school. You can even redshirt. But you will sit a year.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19125 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 6:23 am to
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The way to end it all and bring back sanity is make them sit a year if they transfer.

Sure portal on out. Collect your NIL. Go to your new school. You can even redshirt. But you will sit a year.


This is the best answer. For legal reasons, I don’t think it will happen but it would mitigate alot of this transfer bullshite.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
25221 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 6:52 am to
Personally, I find this to be way worse. I don’t feel like the University should highlight children who keep them hostage. Not sure this builds the right culture in the program.

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Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 6:56 am to
The only way I could see them ever being able to bring back the sit out rule is to tie eligibility to grades. Like if you want to transfer without sitting out a year you need to have maintained a 3.0 GPA at your most recent institution. The arbitrary nature of the rules has always been a big problem for the federal courts, but academic performance determining eligibility to play sports isn't arbitrary.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19125 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:15 am to
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Personally, I find this to be way worse. I don’t feel like the University should highlight children who keep them hostage. Not sure this builds the right culture in the program.



First of all. I don't know what I just watched. Secondly, none of these players are holding their Universities "hostage". Not one single player is doing this.

Using your leverage in a negotiation isn't holding someone hostage. The University or "Collective" or whatever else can choose to meet the terms set by the player (if they believe he's worth it) or simply make the determination that they can't afford the terms. Alabama did the former.

Fans all over the country, big program or small are struggling with this new dynamic. College football is a multi-billion dollar sport and the players are professionals now. College football is professional football, and what we're watching are the antics of professional athletes. Personally, I'm grounded in this reality.

Under this "new system", players are doing exactly what they're allowed to do by the people who put the system in place. For the time being, lawyers and judges have fricked up this sport. Not the players.

And the "culture" part of it. Every program has to deal with this. The Deboer's, Smart's, Day's and Kelly's of the world are just going to have to adapt.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17881 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:19 am to
The thing is when we get great players like this we celebrate and there is no issue.

Even right now we're hoping to get the Miami WR. If he takes our offer, I'm quite sure Miami fans won't be happy about that and neither will their staff but they do the same thing so how dare they complain?

The issue has always been the universities, ADs and broadcast networks heavily monetizing college football. Once they did that the coaches took their cut, the other sports did, the universities did, ADs got raises, etc.. yet they tried to leave out the players instead of making a structured way to pay them as well.

Well to all the people who said "they are already getting paid with a scholarship!". Thanks you shitheads because YOU were part of the problem.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19125 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:42 am to
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The thing is when we get great players like this we celebrate and there is no issue.

Even right now we're hoping to get the Miami WR. If he takes our offer, I'm quite sure Miami fans won't be happy about that and neither will their staff but they do the same thing so how dare they complain?

The issue has always been the universities, ADs and broadcast networks heavily monetizing college football. Once they did that the coaches took their cut, the other sports did, the universities did, ADs got raises, etc.. yet they tried to leave out the players instead of making a structured way to pay them as well.

Well to all the people who said "they are already getting paid with a scholarship!". Thanks you shitheads because YOU were part of the problem.


That's a very old way of thinking that I used to hold on to as well.

Also, what alot of folks conveniently ignore is that Alabama and all the other big timers politely show the door to mass quantities of players they choose not to "negotiate" with. In fact, Alabama "processes" many more players than they negotiate to keep.

What we all have to get used to is that the players can now "process" Alabama, Georgia, LSU, OSU and whoever else just as easily as they can "process" the players, and that's the part we're really bitching about.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12448 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 7:59 am to
Bama will just have to manage their roster based on their checkbook. They will have to spend more at the end of spring to keep others from leaving but so will other teams.

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