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re: Major Tennison arrested on marijuana charge
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:44 pm to CrimsonBoz
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:44 pm to CrimsonBoz
The data behind the combined influence related DUIs in there is interesting. It looks like there has been a pretty big spike in marijuana + alcohol, which does make some sense. I don't think many drinkers will suddenly give it up because they can smoke weed. What I'm really curious about is how marijuana only and prescription painkiller only DUIs have trended. My hunch is that the former have gone up while the latter have gone down, but I honestly don't know.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 1:11 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Well considering I work in counter drug and the people who put that together are some of the best analysts in the US, I’ll defer to their painstaking research over the course of several years.
Yeah those guys want a war on drugs: Continuing the war leads to more federal dollars and grants and this cycle of stupidity continues. Of course they are going to say its dangerous but they are full of shite.
Why don't you all focus on dangerous stuff like meth and opioids and leave marijuana alone. The people in those states have spoken and poll after poll in this country want it legalized or at least decriminalized. Its basically been de-criminalized in all but the most backwards states like Alabama.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:30 pm to 14&Counting
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Yeah those guys want a war on drugs: Continuing the war leads to more federal dollars and grants and this cycle of stupidity continues. Of course they are going to say its dangerous but they are full of shite. Why don't you all focus on dangerous stuff like meth and opioids and leave marijuana alone. The people in those states have spoken and poll after poll in this country want it legalized or at least decriminalized. Its basically been de-criminalized in all but the most backwards states like Alabama.
I understand what you’re saying but we don’t get to decide what we ignore. We do however, focus mainly on the mass killers, cocaine, meth, and fentanyl ( which btw has spiked almost 500% in the southeast). Like it was stated before and I agree, the minor stuff needs to be fined and taken. That’s acceptable.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 2:42 pm to CrimsonBoz
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That’s acceptable.
It isn't acceptable. It is illegal whether it should be or not. The kid will probably have to be on color code and submit to random drug tests for a year. It sucks and the law needs to be changed but as long as it is the way it is currently kids need to at least be smart if they want to use. Don't ride with your sack and if you want to ride and smoke at least take Brandon Chicken with you.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:04 pm to CrimsonBoz
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There is no way to test it
If that were only scientifically accurate... truth is thc, not inactive metabolites, is 100% detectable in blood and saliva tests. So feel free to stop lying about this shite right now.
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LINK
A link to a report done by a hidta district... lol, my entire fricking state is a hidta. All 67 counties. It's like their funding is directly tied to making the situation sound as bad as possible.
Another stat that was glaringly lacking, colorado's population has increased by 31% since y2k...
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:43 pm to Commander Data
With a law change is what I was referring to CD. Not in its current state.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:45 pm to CrimsonBoz
Gotcha. Reading comprehension seems to fail me at times.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 6:14 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Well until they do, it's illegal. The kids know this yet possess it anyway knowing it is wrong. This is a character issue, one that could negatively influence their life if they chose to keep going with it.
It’s not a character issue any more than one of our football players getting a beej is a character issue. Do you know that’s illegal in Alabama as well?
Posted on 2/1/18 at 8:10 pm to TideCPA
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Do you know that’s illegal in Alabama as well?
Do you know you're wrong?
Posted on 2/1/18 at 8:43 pm to JustGetItRight
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Flunk a NCAA test and it is an automatic suspension.
Based on my actual experience of being drug tested as a bama athlete, ncaa testing was few and far between. 80-90% were the school. I know ncaa coaches who blaze with 0 repercussions from the ncaa or the school that employs them. Almost like the rules are as unjust as the law that inspires them.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 9:34 pm to MoarKilometers
As far as I know, coaches are not tested but according to the NCAA atlhetes are tested at every championship event and randomly once a year. Can you roll the dice and win? Sure but have bad luck, get popped there, and you will sit for a significant portion of the season. See Brown, Tony 2015-16 college football playoffs.
You can argue that it should not be against the rules but the guy that made the post implying it wasn’t is totally wrong.
You can argue that it should not be against the rules but the guy that made the post implying it wasn’t is totally wrong.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 8:11 am to JustGetItRight
Someone summed it up pretty well earlier in this thread. A lot of people that are so quick to question the character of someone that willfully breaks the law by possessing marijuana are the same people that happily provide alcohol to minors at the hunting camp, or family birthday party, or family Christmas, or wherever. I've seen it too many times to count, including one instance involving an Alabama football player back in the 90's.
This isn't directed at anyone in this thread as I don't know anyone here to make that accusation. But you can't deny there is not a relaxed attitude towards breaking of laws involving alcohol, except in cases of DUI, compared to marijuana. And even then, the Mac Jones DUI arrest didn't spurn this much backlash.
This isn't directed at anyone in this thread as I don't know anyone here to make that accusation. But you can't deny there is not a relaxed attitude towards breaking of laws involving alcohol, except in cases of DUI, compared to marijuana. And even then, the Mac Jones DUI arrest didn't spurn this much backlash.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:06 am to The Spleen
I can't speak for everyone, but I don't see it as a character issue. I consider it (along with most other things a college kid can do to earn a misdemeanor arrest) a exercise in poor judgement. Continuing to make the same mistakes brings their character into question but a single incident in isolation is in no way a reliable indication of a person's character - particularly at that age.
I just don't understand the thought process that makes the risk work the reward.
And while I consider legalization to be terrible public policy, I completely agree that a guy with weed in the car is a FAR less threat to public safety than a DUI. I've been a volunteer firefighter & EMT for 20 years. Make me king for a day and I'm perfectly fine with a pot arrest being nothing more than a ticket but your very first DUI gets you jail time.
I just don't understand the thought process that makes the risk work the reward.
And while I consider legalization to be terrible public policy, I completely agree that a guy with weed in the car is a FAR less threat to public safety than a DUI. I've been a volunteer firefighter & EMT for 20 years. Make me king for a day and I'm perfectly fine with a pot arrest being nothing more than a ticket but your very first DUI gets you jail time.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:11 am to JustGetItRight
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And while I consider legalization to be terrible public policy
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:16 am to pvilleguru
Yeah, I know most here won't agree with me. It will be a couple of decades before the problems really start showing up.
It's going to happen and it won't end the world, but it isn't going to be all Cheetos and Doritos.
It's going to happen and it won't end the world, but it isn't going to be all Cheetos and Doritos.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:23 am to JustGetItRight
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I just don't understand the thought process that makes the risk work the reward.
Well, I can speak for myself and say that when I was in school at Bama, I had weed on my person a LOT. I can think of dozens of times I was sitting in class high, with a small amount in my backpack. Really dumb in retrospect, but I was pretty dumb back then. The risk only crossed my mind occasionally. You go so long without getting caught, you start letting your guard down and not really thinking about it. I started smoking it when I was 15, so I had 3 years of not getting caught already behind me. Buddy and I used to toke up by Marr's Spring between classes all the time.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 9:38 am to JustGetItRight
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Yeah, I know most here won't agree with me. It will be a couple of decades before the problems really start showing up.
It's going to happen and it won't end the world, but it isn't going to be all Cheetos and Doritos.
I've got no desire to smoke, but as long as alcohol is legal, then there's no reason marijuana shouldn't be as well.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 10:09 am to pvilleguru
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I've got no desire to smoke, but as long as alcohol is legal, then there's no reason marijuana shouldn't be as well.
The problems associated with alcohol are the principal ones behind my position. Booze complicates a VAST number of social ills. DUI/crashes, domestic violence, broken homes, chronic disease, etc. Making weed more available just adds something else people can try to screw up their lives. I don't think it is worth it, but that's just me. I understand if people disagree.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:00 pm to MoarKilometers
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Are you somehow under the impression marijuana law origins were not extremely racially motivated?
We just had a white guy arrested for it. Even if this is the case it doesn't make the law unjust.
The law is clear and there is nothing unjust about the law itself. You choose to smoke, you get caught, you get arrested.
Comparing marijuana law to segregation is laughable.
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