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re: Major Tennison arrested on marijuana charge
Posted on 2/1/18 at 8:52 am to CrimsonBoz
Posted on 2/1/18 at 8:52 am to CrimsonBoz
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Yet Colorado has had an increase in drug trafficking and production, it’s up with the youth, vehicular homicide is through the roof. There is no way to test it, which, is Colorado’s fault in the first place. It has caused major issues in the state. There is more to this than a football player needs some weed.
That is a report that is devised by LE officials. They are losing A LOT of revenue from mj being legal. Do you really believe everything that you read in that report? That is basically propaganda with a ton of grand conclusions with not real data to back it up.
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Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:07 am to BamaGradinTn
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Don't be a fricking moron.
When you willfully break a law that you know will land you in jail, only a fricking dumbass would say that someone else is ruining your life.
Seriously.
You make the decision to do it, you fricking own the consequences.
Enough of this bullshite about someone "ruining your life". What fricking stupidity.
I'm legal where I live so you and the rest of Alabama who thinks this way can kiss my arse.
Alabama already tried to put me in jail over it, so I left the state and do not return except for every few years to visit my parents.
And yes, the only negative effects I've ever had are a result of these laws, so yes these people are the victims of bad laws.
Furthermore, these laws do nothing but hurt the state as well.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:11 am to BamaGradinTn
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College football players making a conscious decision to put their selfish wants ahead of their team, willfully break a law and get arrested, and represent their program in a negative way is absolutely a character issue.
That's a maturity issue, not a character issue.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:13 am to CrimsonBoz
Your link is bullshite. Simply testing positive for marijuana doesn't mean you are high at the time.
Clear agenda.
Clear agenda.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:26 am to Funky Tide 8
Well considering I work in counter drug and the people who put that together are some of the best analysts in the US, I’ll defer to their painstaking research over the course of several years.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:32 am to 3down10
bullshite because it doesn’t fit your agenda. Correct.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:32 am to CrimsonBoz
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Well considering I work in counter drug and the people who put that together are some of the best analysts in the US, I’ll defer to their painstaking research over the course of several years.
....and they have an obvious agenda. I'm not saying that they are unknowingly making mistakes, as they know exactly what they are doing. I'm not saying that they are bad analysts. I don't doubt that they are wonderful, best-in-the-business analysts.
That doesn't mean that there isn't millions of dollars of lost revenue at stake for the organization that wrote that report.
there are clear fallacies in that report. That's a fact.
This post was edited on 2/1/18 at 11:53 am
Posted on 2/1/18 at 11:35 am to CrimsonBoz
I wouldn't call it total bullshite but it's slightly misleading, and I say this as someone who has prosecuted DUIs for a living. Determining a level of impairment from marijuana based on a blood test is a lot more complicated than just asking how much active compound was present the way it is with things like prescription painkillers and alcohol.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:08 pm to Robot Santa
I totally get that and know that. The point of the study more than anything is to set up future states to handle the issues they have encountered. I.E. creating a test kit for THC and a program and procedure for a DUI type scenario. Colorado did none of that and are paying for it. Among other things like screening criteria for distribution centers, trafficking screen at USPS etc.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:09 pm to Funky Tide 8
See my below response. Other states have been asked to produce a similar report for my stated reasons.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:22 pm to CrimsonBoz
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bullshite because it doesn’t fit your agenda. Correct.
I actually checked it out and read a portion of it.
It says people tested positive for marijuana in it's studies, but marijuana stays in your system for a month, even though the effects only last a few hours.
At no point does it ever talk about THC levels or anything that would support the claims that these events are actually marijuana related. Instead, all it really shows is that more people use marijuana more regularly now that it's legal, and that is to be expected.
Unless you ignorantly believe getting high lasts for 30 days.
This post was edited on 2/1/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:24 pm to 3down10
The reason they say it that way is because the state failed to produce a testing kit for use of officers during stops. It’s trying to show the lack of something for future production.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:29 pm to CrimsonBoz
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I totally get that and know that. The point of the study more than anything is to set up future states to handle the issues they have encountered.
If they are knowingly passing off misleading numbers as fact, as you admit, then the study doesn't have much validity IMO.
If you are having to skew and distort statistics to fit your narrative, then that is not very trustworthy IMO, which is why i believe that it has more to do with their lost revenue rather than concerns about public well-being.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:30 pm to CrimsonBoz
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The reason they say it that way is because the state failed to produce a testing kit for use of officers during stops. It’s trying to show the lack of something for future production.
It's going to be very difficult for that to work because the amount of THC it takes to affect people is different. People build up tolerances and the amount of THC in a regular user can be high even when they are sober.
That said, I have no love for people who drive impaired on anything, so I do hope they find a good test and is reliable and doesn't screw people over.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:31 pm to CrimsonBoz
You mean like a breathalyzer for weed? I'm not even sure how that would work. Is there anything in what you linked about rates of alcohol and prescription drug related crash fatalities and how they have trended over the last couple of years?
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:32 pm to 3down10
I read it too. It mostly tries to draw a correlation that may or may not be there. Marijuana absolutely impairs one's ability to drive. And I don't doubt that there has been an increase in traffic accidents where marijuana impairment was the cause. That's to be expected with more people using it since it is now legal. Colorado has also experienced population growth over the last decade. More people on the roads, more chances for fatal car accidents.
It's not a perfect science since there is no easy way to determine one's marijuana impairment at any given time. Simply chalking it up to marijuana impairment, as the study tries to do, isn't completely accurate.
It's not a perfect science since there is no easy way to determine one's marijuana impairment at any given time. Simply chalking it up to marijuana impairment, as the study tries to do, isn't completely accurate.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:34 pm to Funky Tide 8
It isn’t misleading, it’s showing a trend and lack of ability to test said trend.
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:36 pm to Robot Santa
I may have something, I know the argument of drinking and weed together (gateway) and visa versa is strong right now.
Edit: I do think they mention if other things were present somewhere in there.
Edit: I do think they mention if other things were present somewhere in there.
This post was edited on 2/1/18 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:38 pm to 3down10
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so I do hope they find a good test and is reliable and doesn't screw people over.
That’s the trick, lots of research going into it now but should have been done years ago.
Btw good convo guys, I like seeing every side.
This post was edited on 2/1/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 2/1/18 at 12:43 pm to CrimsonBoz
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I do think they mention if other things were present somewhere in there.
I admit I didn't read the entire thing.
While I support marijuana legalization, I do agree one of the biggest challenges with it is how to restrict driving while impaired on it effectively. I'd at least like to see the de-criminalization of small amounts like in Major's case. Write him a ticket for a small fine and confiscate it, or just ignore it, and be done with it.
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