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Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:44 am to TideSaint
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:44 am to TideSaint
Meanwhile, in Alabama:
Alabama driver, 22, 'shoots pedestrian, 29, dead for taking too long to cross the street'
But, hey, continue to focus on the felons killed by police.
Alabama driver, 22, 'shoots pedestrian, 29, dead for taking too long to cross the street'
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An Alabama driver allegedly shot dead a pedestrian who took too long crossing the street in front of his car.
Jeremiah Wesley Penn has been charged with capital murder after Johnarian Travez Allen was shot eight times in Union Springs last Thursday evening.
Penn is said to have told police Allen crossed the street too slowly after he had stopped to let him pass, WSFA reports.
Union Springs police said Penn had been on his way to buy when food when the pair got into a disagreement. The two men are not thought to have known each other.
Jeremiah Wesley Penn, pictured, has been charged with capital murder after Johnarian Travez Allen was shot eight times in Union Springs last Thursday evening.
Penn allegedly got out of his car to confront Allen on his speed crossing the road before Allen was shot eight times, Fox reports.
Allen was found dead at the scene; Penn is said to have already fled.
But, hey, continue to focus on the felons killed by police.
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:48 am to TideSaint
You're talking about just one fricking incident?
Irrelevant
I'd say it had at least a little effect.
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He is a convicted felon with outstanding warrants
Irrelevant
quote:Didn't look like he had a knife in his hands while walking to the car.
he's brandishing a knife,
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takes two stun gun shots with no affect
I'd say it had at least a little effect.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:49 am to The Spleen
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The knife was in his car and wasn't found until after he was already shot and on the ground.
Nope.
Wisconsin DOJ acknowledges that Jacob Blake was armed with a knife
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KENOSHA, WI – The state attorney general refused to acknowledge whether Jacob Blake, the criminal who was shot by police, was armed. Now we’ve learned that he in fact was.
On Wednesday, the investigating authority for the shooting of Jacob Blake, the Wisconsin Department of Justice, identified the involved officer, Rusten Sheskey.
Sheskey told investigators that Blake was armed for a knife during that fateful encounter – and even Blake himself admitted to it.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:52 am to TideSaint
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But, hey, continue to focus on the felons killed by police.
Hey, if you want to get into gun control as well, I'm here for it.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:53 am to pvilleguru
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You're talking about just one fricking incident?
Okay.
Which incident are you talking about where the "victim" did exactly what the police told them to do and didn't resist arrest?
I can think of only one and that's Breona Taylor.
Who else was "murdered" for no reason whatsoever?
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Irrelevant
Are you serious? The victim of his sexual assault was the one who called the cops. How is his criminal history irrelevant when it was directly tied into the situation?
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Didn't look like he had a knife in his hands while walking to the car.
Well he admitted to it, so there's that.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:54 am to pvilleguru
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Hey, if you want to get into gun control as well, I'm here for it.
I'm sure he purchased that weapon legally.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:58 am to TideSaint
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How is his criminal history irrelevant when it was directly tied into the situation?
It's irrelevant when it comes to the police shooting him.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:59 am to pvilleguru
If he complies right away he doesn’t get shot
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 10:00 am
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:59 am to TideSaint
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Well he admitted to it, so there's that
To having a knife or having it in his hands? Because the video sure doesn't show anyone holding a knife.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:01 am to pvilleguru
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It's irrelevant when it comes to the police shooting him.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:01 am to TideSaint
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I'm sure he purchased that weapon legally
I'm sure it would be just as easy to get a gun if they weren't available at any stores or through the mail.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:02 am to pvilleguru
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I'm sure it would be just as easy to get a gun if they weren't available at any stores or through the mail.
Yes. It would be. Let me guess, you also think the war on drugs is working?
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:02 am to The Spleen
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What's bull shite is framing the narrative that way just so you can shoot it down. The argument is cops disproportionately target blacks. You're free to still disagree with that, but changing what they're actually fighting against is dishonesty.
And that's exactly what's being done all over the internet. People creating strawman arguments and inserting red herrings to try and make someone else's opinion seem baseless. These people know DAMN WELL that the cause is based on a legitimate concern.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:03 am to stomp
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These people know DAMN WELL that the cause is based on a legitimate concern.
No, it isn't.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:11 am to pvilleguru
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To having a knife or having it in his hands? Because the video sure doesn't show anyone holding a knife.
Yeah, the link provided only says the knife was in his possession, which could mean in his vehicle. The grainy picture that claimed to show a knife in his hand is a bit inconclusive. It's possible it's a knife though.
At any rate, even if it was in his vehicle at the time, he's walking towards his vehicle and presumably had already told the cops he had a knife in his possession. I wouldn't really fault the cop for thinking he was going to his car to get that knife. Like most of these incidents, the situation isn't completely black and white. I haven't really weighed in on it, but it does appear justified.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:13 am to CrimsonBoz
Thanks for your service Boz, and the rest of you guys that served as well. I certainly have reservations about the politicians that lead our country and question the ethics and morals behind some of their decisions to use our military, but have the utmost respect for those that serve/served. You guys lay it on the line for everyone in the country. And even on bad days, the U.S. is still better than anywhere else.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:16 am to TideSaint
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Who else was "murdered" for no reason whatsoever?
I'm not limiting this to just people that they have killed.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:45 am to pvilleguru
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It's irrelevant when it comes to the police shooting him.
Incorrect because it creates an understanding of what they are going into. If the guy has a record with violence, white or black, they need to be prepared for the situation. Be able to anticipate not react.
That is like saying my unit was getting deployed and need no intel on area we are going because it is irrelevant.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 10:57 am to imjustafatkid
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No, it isn't.
Just because it's not a concern to you or some others doesn't mean it's not to anyone else. Just because it's your opinion that the concern isn't legitimate has no bearing on whether it is or isn't for someone else.
If you and your wife are house hunting and your wife tells you that she's concerned about the safety of the neighborhood, you can disregard her and say "well we own guns so we shouldn't have any problems" and quote a bunch of stats to fit your narrative, but that doesn't mean she'll feel safe.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:11 am to BamaBo7
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You wanna say the cops are the problem and we should be scared of them? I am scared as a black man.. scared of the lack of care for killings in my community. Scared of the young kids who can take a life without a blink of an eye.
I'm not speaking to my personal concerns about social injustice. But to answer your insinuation, no, I don't want to say that "cops are just the problem."
What I wanted to say, and in fact did say, more than once is that Robert Horry, or LeBron James, or Nick Saban, or the Alabama players can speak about their own fears and anxieties about police brutality and social injustice in this country. And to emphasize, that our coaches and players are in fact doing that very thing. They will be protesting in their version of BLM today at 4 pm. PERIOD, my man.
So to conclude here with something I've said at least twice in this thread: "
"There is no such thing as any man, regardless of color, being able to speak on behalf of anyone else's life's experience specifically." And I also clearly stated, whoever they are, "they are more than qualified to talk about their own fears and concerns to anyone that has a mind to listen."
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