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bamameister
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One would be THE senior citizen even in a senior citizen's home. He also, unfortunately, lost his fastball some time ago. The other is a pathological liar who could no doubt pass a lie detector test standing on his head. Such is the nature of mental illness. I'm not following either one to Walmart.

That's why I was wondering where coach Saban and the guys are heading tomorrow?


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LovetheLord
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I did. Although the DEA academy is the back bastard building of the FBI spread in Quantico I did have some follow on and advanced training there in GA.



Did you do CQB here at FLETC?


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Although the DEA academy is the back bastard building of the FBI spread in Quantico


But you still had Q Town


BamaBo7
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This is my feeling on the March as a Black man.. I didn't write this but its how I raise my boys, players and youth I come in contact with. I really felt Obama fell short of this and could have really changed the black community. I hope wiser voices prevail and the change comes from within..not handouts.

Dear LeBron James,

You don’t speak for me and my boys.

I’m a father of four brown boys. It is my responsibility as a father to protect and serve them. There is no need for police in my home because as the father, I’m the authority in my home.

Police are needed where fathers and law and order are absent. When there is no father to protect and serve children, police have to move into that community to protect and serve.

Where there is no father or authority in the home or neighborhood, young men rebel. This is why police are having a hard time gaining compliance with fatherless boys on the side of the road. They refuse to sit down, be quiet, and comply. Why? Because the police are the first men to tell them NO and assert their authority. These boys have spent years under no ones authority. This is the main problem.

#AcceptingAuthority

So please don’t speak for me and my boys. Me and my boys are not terrified of the police because we respect the police and accept their authority. That’s because they first had to respect me as their father and accept my authority. Actually one of them wants to be a police officer. You Lebron are trying to destroy that dream by painting police officers in a negative light when most a good guys.

We are terrified of the black men that kill each other in their black neighborhoods everyday. We are afraid of the black men that threaten us and call us cuns and uncle toms for desiring to live a peacefull and successful life. We are aware of the fact that 93% of all black homicides are by black men. (Bureau of Justice Statistics)

If you really want to help fatherless boys like yourself, stop using fear tactics and guilt trips. Help promote legislation like “EQUAL SHARED PARENTING” that helps divorced dads and single dads have more time with their children without paying more child support.

Help get legislation passed to make child support more fair and equal. Fund programs like my former #GoodGuys #GoodGirls Program (killed by ObamaCare) that helped young black youth save sex until marriage, learn their history, learn to respect police, develop work ethic and accomplish their goals.( LINK ).

Stop blaming the police and help build better fathers. Stop saying police need more training and train more dads and young black boys on the the rule of law and police protocols.

Remember, there are millions of black and brown boys out here that are not being killed by police. They are alive and doing quite well. How? We obey the law. Comply with police and if the police does something wrong or unethical, they live to fight in court and not the side of the road.

Signed,
Patrick D. Hampton
@The Patrick Perspective
@The Patriot Post
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CrimsonBoz
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Did you do CQB here at FLETC?


No with my background I moved into DEA Fast before Chuck decided to reform into RRT/SRT.

The training is conducted in and around Army SOF so it made sense for me.



CrimsonBoz
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But you still had Q Town


True, I have a really good friend in Chantilly so it was nice being in the area.

I would go on front part of the base to get a haircut from the Asian ladies, massage included and not like that lol. Was $7.


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bamameister
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There is no such thing as any man, regardless of color, being able to speak on behalf of anyone else's life's experience specifically. Everyone has their own fears and trials that speak louder than words to them.

I thought the comments by Robert Horry on the Laker's sports channel the other night was devastatingly revealing. That post-game episode was written about in a piece in AL.com on what Robert fears as a black father with sons of his own. I think it speaks volumes about why black people have a fear of social and racial inequality in this country for themselves and their families. Here it is:


It sounded as though former Alabama basketball star Robert Horry was about to tell a funny story during an appearance on “Access SportsNet Lakers” on Spectrum SportsNet on Wednesday night.

Horry said his wife walked into the room and found him crying on Tuesday, which was Horry’s 50th birthday.

“Are you crying because you turned 50 today?” Horry said his wife asked him.

But reaching the Big Five-O was not what had Horry in tears. Instead, he was watching the video of the Sunday night shooting of Jacob Blake by Kenosha, Wisconsin, police.

Horry related how his son came into the room about that time, and the former NBA player had to struggle against a breaking voice to tell the rest of the story.

“It’s hard to tell your 14-year-old son that I worry about him when he walks out that door,” Horry said. “I have a 21-year-old son. I worry about him because Black men are an endangered species pretty much. These cops are just killing because they feel like if they don’t have their body cams on, they have a right.

“And I tell my kids all the time. I say, ‘Dude, I don’t care what’s going on because at the end of the day I want you coming home to me. If you have to lay down on the ground and they can kick you, beat you, at least you’re going to go to the hospital and you’re going to come home to me.’”

Horry also had a daughter, who succumbed at age 17 to a genetic disorder.

“I already lost one child,” Horry said. “I don’t need to lose another.”

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Like LeBron, I don't think Robert Horry can speak for every black man's experience, but they are more than qualified to talk about their own fears and concerns to anyone that has a mind to listen.


imjustafatkid
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When people have irrational fears, we aren't supposed to coddle them. We're supposed to point out that their fear is irrational.


bamameister
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When people have irrational fears, we aren't supposed to coddle them. We're supposed to point out that their fear is irrational.


No doubt, you being the leading authority on what's rational in someone else's life, I'm sure that would go over well.



BamaBo7
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“It’s hard to tell your 14-year-old son that I worry about him when he walks out that door,” Horry said. “I have a 21-year-old son. I worry about him because Black men are an endangered species pretty much. These cops are just killing because they feel like if they don’t have their body cams on, they have a right.

He lost me right there.. no one is killing these blacks because they feel like it. That’s just plain stupid and spreads fear. Do we really want to break down the last two...


George Floyd.. used a counterfeit bill, RESISTED arrest and took a hand full of drugs to avoid being caught. Should the cops have let him up.. absolutely.. would he have been in that situation if he followed commands and didn’t resist..NO. I do put blame on the cop here as I feel all of America did. But don’t resist and you live. George Floyd was really troubling for me.. the cop should be charged. I’m not sure murder will stick with the drug levels in his body. But he should have been let up..and set up. Floyd was hysterical from the get go though. He knew he was going to jail and was fighting it tooth and nail.

Jacob Blake- had pending sexual assault charges from July and a restraining order. Showed up to the same girls place and police were called. They knew going there he had pending charges and were coming to arrest him on that warrant. When they showed up he RESISTED.. had a knife in his hand and video can be heard of the officers yell, “Drop the knife! Drop the knife!” as they scuffled with Blake before the shooting. He was tazed twice and shook it off. Which lets me know he was probably on something as well. He then proceeded to walk away to the car.. after being told to stop over and over. At that point you can only assume the worst and that he is getting a gun. Now he didn’t have a gun in the car, but he did have the knife. To avoid being killed all he had to do was not RESIST.. and comply with the orders giving. Jacob Blake is that situation where you have to make a call on safety. The guy has already fought you and you know he has a weapon.. do you let him go for another? That’s a call I wouldn’t want to make.. and the cop shouldn’t of had too. Just comply and you live. Its really that simple

The big elephant in the room is both knew they were going to jail and resisted arrest. They didn’t want to go to jail and wouldn’t follow police orders. Both had criminal charges and with how today is.. you know damn well to follow police orders and then beat it in court. You don’t fight cops and resist. It’s too dangerous for both sides. I don’t condone the killing of any man. But with the dangers today.. the cops are just as scared and want to go home too. It’s a very stressful and tension situation.. the best way to ease that is dialog and complying. If a cop steps out of line, sue the shite out of the city and walk home rich and alive.
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imjustafatkid
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No doubt, you being the leading authority on what's rational in someone else's life, I'm sure that would go over well.


When the facts don't line up with your fear, the facts aren't the ones being irrational.
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imjustafatkid
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would he have been in that situation if he followed commands and didn’t resist..NO. I do put blame on the cop here as I feel all of America did.


I agree with almost everything you said, but George Floyd was on the ground because he asked them to lay him on the ground after stating multiple times while in their car that he could not breathe.


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1BamaRTR
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He lost me right there

He lost me because he just like so many around the country believe the bold face lie that cops are responsible for the vast majority of black men that get murdered. Yes gun violence is too high but it’s unlikely he’ll to get shot and killed in this day and age. If a black person is likely to be killed, he/she is FAR FAR more likely to be killed by another black male then by a cop. The numbers are not even remotely close.

I get he’s afraid for his son. But only bringing up cops and not the other much more likely cause is absurd. People across the country legitimately believe that cops are going around to hunt down and kill black men in droves.

Now cops do have issues. There are power hungry and corrupt cops. Cops seem to be held above the law at times. You can call for police reform while also not believing the absolute BS that cops are doing most of the killing and that it’s very common.


bamameister
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Are you under the impression that Robert Horry is only speaking about a particular national event, an incident, or 2? You should read that piece again. The comments I've heard over and over is that these people protesting are fed up with racial injustice. Like maybe it's been going on for a few lifetimes.

You do realize that the head coach of Alabama is going to be marching tomorrow in reference to this very cause, right? Could this possibly mean that whites, as well as blacks, share these same fears about our system of justice in this country?



BamaBo7
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Why do I have to read it again when I actually live in the community and grew up in housing projects. I know what goes on and why it goes on. I can promise the police attitudes have changed from the 80’s. I also know that us in the community need the police right now..we are losing our community to vice lords and gangster disciples at the moment. You know I lost 2 players last year and 6 students to gang violence. I didn’t lose a single one to cops. Every year I have 3-5 former students die by community violence and 3-5 current students. That’s 10 a year..You wanna say the cops are the problem and we should be scared of them? I am scared as a black man.. scared of the lack of care for killings in my community. Scared of the young kids who can take a life without a blink of an eye.

I understand there needs to be some changes with the system.. my top article talked about those changes.. especially with keeping fathers in the homes and in kids life’s. The jail system is broken and it’s needs to be fixed. There is racist people in this world and there always will be.. there is bad cops.. there is bad people.. but the biggest threat to blacks right now is ourself. We are killing at an alarming rate and it’s scary.. yet we ignore that. No police training will fix that. That doesn’t get the attention it should. Instead we blame cops and say they are killing us all.. that’s a problem to me. It’s hiding the real problem in my opinion. I understand what the coaches and company’s are doing. What choice do they really have? They need the black community to preform.. this is a business. It’s also easier to say we can fix the police that kill 112 blacks to date in 2020.. than we can fix 485 blacks murdered in the streets this year in Chicago alone. Jackson MS has 104 right now. I’m just wanting us to look at the bigger picture.. what real change will happen if we don’t change our communities? We save 112 blacks. I want to see more change than police training and voting out Trump. What the hell did Biden do for us in 8 years as VP and 47 in office. You think has some great plan he didn’t tell Obama about how to fix this. We are being used. That’s the hardest part for my community to understand the fix has to come from us.. not politicians, not laws, not handouts. It has to be at home. We need fathers and we need morals.. we need real role models. Not ones on posters or TV.. we need them in the home.

72 hours..
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Just this year..
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tattoo
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The point is that the cases that are being protested are not examples of racial injustice but examples of difficult circumstances, police misjudgment, police arrogance, police fear, etc. It is not racial.

OTOH, history was very bad for which the police are now paying a steep price, IMO, unfortunately so. The media, white liberals and black leaders are purposely fanning the flames with mischaracterizations and outright lies, all to push a political or personal agenda. 9 cases out of a population of 325 mil, twice that many whites and not a peep. It's sickening.


stomp
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He lost me because he just like so many around the country believe the bold face lie that cops are responsible for the vast majority of black men that get murdered. 


Nobody anywhere has ever said this.


stomp
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It is not racial.


So explain why white men get away with a level of aggressive with police that would get a black man killed?

Why didn't either of these people get shot by an officer?

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They are thousands of incidences where black people get that level of aggressive with police and dont get killed. They just dont get put on the internet because its not interesting enough news and doesnt fit the narrative that the Left wants to push.

Just like they’re statistically more unarmed whites killed by police than blacks but that doesn’t fit the lefts narrative.

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TideSaint
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So explain why white men get away with a level of aggressive with police that would get a black man killed?


Are you implying that EVERY black man that gets aggressive with the police is killed by them?

Because that's absolutely ridiculous.

Imagine acting like this because you got a fricking parking ticket

And you think the police are the problem?


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