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re: Jalen Hurts a finalist for prestigious QB award
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:33 pm to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:33 pm to Funky Tide 8
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If there is one thing that has come to light since Saturday, its that we have quite a few shitty fans on this board.
I don't understand laughing at Hurts. He's never done anything to earn anyone's personal disdain. When something good happens to him, we shouldn't belittle that.
That doesn't mean you have to think the nomination is warranted or that his passing is acceptable. I don't believe either of those things. I think it is more about name recognition, which, quite frankly, is the primary impetus behind all of these awards. Regardless, we should still congratulate him on it - it's still an achievement.
At the same time, being critical does not make you a shitty fan.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:35 am to CrimsonCrusade
I don't understand why bama fans keep doggin on Jalen and our offense. We ran into a damn good auburn defense it happens. Clemson scored same amount of points and won. Truth is our defense isn't as dominant as is has been. It's difficult to watch us on defense hoping they can get the hell off the field to me its not the offense putting pressure on defense but the other way around.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 2:07 am
Posted on 12/1/17 at 5:34 am to KingTayoPrado
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I don't understand why bama fans keep doggin on Jalen and our offense.
Really? You don’t understand? Have you watched us play against defenses with a pulse? We have the same issues time after time.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 6:26 am
Posted on 12/1/17 at 5:42 am to FairhopeTider
Yeah, I saw him shred Mississippi State to lead us tob victory.
Maybe you slept through that one.
Maybe you slept through that one.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 6:25 am to YStar
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Yeah, I saw him shred Mississippi State to lead us tob victory.
Maybe you slept through that one
No I saw that one. I’d hardly classify it as “shredding.” Especially when we were 3-9 on 3rd Down.
I see you’re hellbent on playing hall monitor this morning. Questioning fanhood and such. Keep it up. Maybe they’ll give you a badge.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 6:57 am to FairhopeTider
Hurts took an average UA team(based on play on both sides of the ball) and went 11-1. Blame his play all you want but the defense was no help this year at all with the performance on that side of the ball as well being average.
Hurts at worst has us in what the Orange Bowl and still in a position to get to the playoffs. Again not like the past where we have a top defense to shut other teams down. I agree with many that I am not sure that Hurts may have reached his ceiling already and believe Tua will be the starting QB next fall but I will take nothing away from what Hurts has done this year and last year as well for this team.
The coaches put these kids in and they give it their best ability on the field when out there we hope and he did every game. If you think the coaches were wrong for putting him in bash them.
Hurts at worst has us in what the Orange Bowl and still in a position to get to the playoffs. Again not like the past where we have a top defense to shut other teams down. I agree with many that I am not sure that Hurts may have reached his ceiling already and believe Tua will be the starting QB next fall but I will take nothing away from what Hurts has done this year and last year as well for this team.
The coaches put these kids in and they give it their best ability on the field when out there we hope and he did every game. If you think the coaches were wrong for putting him in bash them.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:05 am to TideWarrior
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Hurts took an average UA team
Average? Maybe relative to Saban’s teams but we wouldn’t have been some middling Top 25 team without Hurts. We have arguably the best defense in the country. We have a very strong backfield and WR corps. Let’s not act like Hurts is Dak Prescott and we’re 2014 Mississippi State.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:21 am to TideWarrior
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. Blame his play all you want but the defense was no help this year at all with the performance on that side of the ball as well being average.
The #2 defense was no help this year?
By typing this ridiculousness you are actually proving my point. In order for Hurts to be a successful, championship level quarterback every other team member has to play damn close to flawless to make up for his insufficiency. Nobody else has room for a bad game because Hurts has already booked that room for any Saturday we play a top 10 team.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:09 am to chattabama
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By typing this ridiculousness you are actually proving my point. In order for Hurts to be a successful, championship level quarterback every other team member has to play damn close to flawless to make up for his insufficiency. Nobody else has room for a bad game because Hurts has already booked that room for any Saturday we play a top 10 team.
Some of you just crack me up. What games were you watching over the last month to see a top rated D. LSU, MSU, AU, or A&M for that matter. DBs that let WRs blow by us, trying to arm tackle players in the open field, and lets not forget how good was AU on 3rd down against our great D this year?
Like many on here I am not sure I want to get into the playoffs and have to see an OU team that will probably put 40 on us with no problem.
At to your point we already had to rely on stellar defenses when we had Blake and Coker at QB. And no one is saying that Hurts has been stellar but you keep drinking whatever you are drinking if you think this defense is great.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:16 am to Culverhouse13
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There is a reason no freshman QB has won a national title in a very long time.
2013 wasn’t that long ago.
No sophomore had ever won one, and then AJ did. History doesn’t dictate the future with rigidity
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:17 am to TideWarrior
It’s a hellava lot better than the offense.
Last years defense was the best we ever had according to analysts who know squat. And our offense managed to blow it anyway, by giving Clemson the ball back over and over and over and over and over again until Clemson had run 99 plays.
If you people, who at this point are being either willfully ignorant or else your closet Bama haters wanting us to lose, would just learn from our performances against decent defenses, we wouldn’t have to keep having this inane conversation.
Last years defense was the best we ever had according to analysts who know squat. And our offense managed to blow it anyway, by giving Clemson the ball back over and over and over and over and over again until Clemson had run 99 plays.
If you people, who at this point are being either willfully ignorant or else your closet Bama haters wanting us to lose, would just learn from our performances against decent defenses, we wouldn’t have to keep having this inane conversation.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:23 am to River_City_Tider
Everybody here wants us to win. Some people hate admitting they were wrong though and would rather dig their heels in and stick with what they initially believed rather than believing their own eyes.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:38 am to River_City_Tider
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If you people, who at this point are being either willfully ignorant or else your closet Bama haters wanting us to lose, would just learn from our performances against decent defenses, we wouldn’t have to keep having this inane conversation.
Excuse me for having an opinion that disagrees with you. But our D this year has looked very undisciplined when we needed them to step up. Stats are great but when the games is on the line is when it truly matters or preventing a team from getting 3rd and long when they need it over and over has nothing to do with our offense.
And coming from you who has already posted that will not follow UA next year is hilarious. Go back to your side walk and pick another team to follow.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:44 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Everybody here wants us to win. Some people hate admitting they were wrong though and would rather dig their heels in and stick with what they initially believed rather than believing their own eyes.
First off I am not admitting I am right or wrong. I have stated I want Tua to be the starter next year. My issue is for these so called fans if they truly support the program they support the players and to have grown arse adults bash a kid because some media and some organization believes he deserves to be a part of a conversation for an award is sad and pathetic.
How many times do these same posters have to come into a thread a bash a player on our team. You have stated your opinion and we do not need to hear it anymore. So be it you do not like him or think he should be playing but the staff does so if you an issue file a complaint with the athletic department.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:47 am to River_City_Tider
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Last years defense was the best we ever had according to analysts who know squat. And our offense managed to blow it anyway, by giving Clemson the ball back over and over and over and over and over again until Clemson had run 99 plays.
This is still and will always be an opinion. It was a team loss, blaming Jalen is asinine, considering the best D ever didn't win a 50/50 and was torched by 13 the entire game. Not to mention not running the ball at all when Bo went down. A lot of our issues stem from shite OC planning.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:50 am to PurpleandGold Motown
You should just continue to root for your butt pirate hero Gayfer Gayfield the rest of your life. Your are no Bama fan.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:14 am to TideWarrior
So you think we should have held Auburn to 13 points? Get outta here with that.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:26 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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a mediocre to average quarterback
You do know that those are synonyms, right?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 11:16 am to River_City_Tider
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So you think we should have held Auburn to 13 points? Get outta here with that.
Auburn's last TD was with over 12 min to go in the game. Yet we still lost by 12. Offense had plenty of time to put some points on the board and we couldn't.
At the end of the day, we have a defense that is flawed but very capable of winning a championship. You shouldn't have to have an all-time defense like 2015 or 2016 to win a title. We knew coming into this year that the defense would take a step back and the offense would have to pick up the slack. In order to do that, pretty everyone agreed that Jalen would have to become a much better passer. Yet here we are. Same problems as last year.
We can blame the defense all day but the offense's inability to stay on the field and efficiently put up points against decent defenses is our biggest problem.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 11:51 am to FairhopeTider
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We knew coming into this year that the defense would take a step back and the offense would have to pick up the slack. In order to do that, pretty everyone agreed that Jalen would have to become a much better passer. Yet here we are. Same problems as last year.
This was a team loss...it's not the offense's fault that the D couldn't get off the field on 3rd down...it's not the defense's fault the O couldn't stay on the field on 3rd down...we were outplayed on both sides of the ball...
I'll agree the O did not pick up the slack against Auburn...but they did pick up the slack against Mississippi State and, to a lesser degree, LSU. If you say Jalen lost this game, then you have to say that he won the MSU and LSU games...Auburn's the only game where the offense has failed to put up 24+....
Is he better than last year? Yes. Is he as good as he needs to be? No. Is Tua better? We'll find out in the Spring...
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 11:53 am
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