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Is Saban reinventing himself or is he going back
Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:58 am
Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:58 am
to the basics.
Used to be he would win with great D and great ST's and running the ball and being physical at the LOC
Then he tweaked things with dual threat QB's and running RPO's. This year we had our weakest D and a sometimes suspect ST play. Especially with the kicker and the punter.
Last year he brought in all new young guns as coaches who were great recruiters but unsure of their X and O ability.
This year it appears he is going back to true and trusted coaches who have a little age and wisdom but are also good recruiters.
So what do you "experts" think we fans will see going into the spring and beyond.
Used to be he would win with great D and great ST's and running the ball and being physical at the LOC
Then he tweaked things with dual threat QB's and running RPO's. This year we had our weakest D and a sometimes suspect ST play. Especially with the kicker and the punter.
Last year he brought in all new young guns as coaches who were great recruiters but unsure of their X and O ability.
This year it appears he is going back to true and trusted coaches who have a little age and wisdom but are also good recruiters.
So what do you "experts" think we fans will see going into the spring and beyond.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:08 am to mrbroker
It’s amazing how much the future outlook changed for this program after 1 game vs Clemson.
I know the score looked awful, but they aren’t THAT much better than us. A couple things went wrong, then it was kind of like the snowball effect, it all piled on.
We are right there, and Bama ain’t going nowhere.
I’ll keep saying this until I’m blue in the face....
Give me Christian Miller, Terrell Lewis, Trevon Diggs, & Deonte Brown in this game, and National Title #18 would be sitting in Tuscaloosa right now. Saban don’t need to change shyt, he’s won 2 of 4 Natty’s and almost 3 of 4 if those 4 guys aren’t injured.
We’re good.
I know the score looked awful, but they aren’t THAT much better than us. A couple things went wrong, then it was kind of like the snowball effect, it all piled on.
We are right there, and Bama ain’t going nowhere.
I’ll keep saying this until I’m blue in the face....
Give me Christian Miller, Terrell Lewis, Trevon Diggs, & Deonte Brown in this game, and National Title #18 would be sitting in Tuscaloosa right now. Saban don’t need to change shyt, he’s won 2 of 4 Natty’s and almost 3 of 4 if those 4 guys aren’t injured.
We’re good.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:16 am to saban n bear
he is prompting a lot of one year coaches along with his best recruiter to find jobs elsewhere. I think he realized he made a mistake and is going back to the basics.
Not that there is anything wrong with Bama or NS. It is the off season right?
Not like we Bama fans have another sport to pull for that I worth a tinkers darn right now.
Cant wait for golf season
Not that there is anything wrong with Bama or NS. It is the off season right?
Not like we Bama fans have another sport to pull for that I worth a tinkers darn right now.
Cant wait for golf season
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:20 am to mrbroker
I think he is trying to put together a staff that will remain largely intact (assuming we are successful) for more than one season.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:34 am to mrbroker
Saban has always had explosive plays as a part of his offense and balance. He has never been more run than pass in philosophy. Balance on offense with explosive plays in the pass game but always as physical as any too.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:37 am to Bryantboyz
Seems like he is trying to bring back that swagger that the old defenses used to have. I am all for that hit pti in the mouth and force you to give up mentality on defense.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:48 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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I think he is trying to put together a staff that will remain largely intact (assuming we are successful) for more than one season.
Yeah, aside from Lake I haven't seen any "rising star" type names floating out there. It seems that he's going after guys who still need some image rehab and career assistant types.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:21 am to mrbroker
College football is about to be like NFL was this year.
It’s time for new offenses and coaches who aren’t afraid to change their philosophy.
Saban already did that by becoming pass-heavy this year.
It’s time for new offenses and coaches who aren’t afraid to change their philosophy.
Saban already did that by becoming pass-heavy this year.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:29 am to Robot Santa
When you consider the #'s maxing and the overall quality of the current recruiting class and the move toward better coaching technicians it makes me think he is tired of the increasing negative recruiting push about his age and how much longer he will be at Alabama. He appears to be setting the team up for a final push of somewhere between a 2 out of 3 or a 3 out of 4 National Championship run.
Big class on recruiting prowess followed by slightly smaller classes based on best coaching for the players. If the run is for a 4 year plan the coach that follows him will have a tough transition. I it is a 3 year plan the coach that follows him would likely have a strong first year team and time to establish a recruiting footing.
While this is little more than a guess, Saban does tend to coach and select players and staff for long term rather than just what he needs for the next year. Every choice he makes has a well thought out purpose.
Big class on recruiting prowess followed by slightly smaller classes based on best coaching for the players. If the run is for a 4 year plan the coach that follows him will have a tough transition. I it is a 3 year plan the coach that follows him would likely have a strong first year team and time to establish a recruiting footing.
While this is little more than a guess, Saban does tend to coach and select players and staff for long term rather than just what he needs for the next year. Every choice he makes has a well thought out purpose.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:49 am to saban n bear
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I know the score looked awful, but they aren’t THAT much better than us
Offense sales tickets, Defense wins championships.
After the Ohio State defeat, I thought Saban maybe slipping. I’ve never been more wrong thinking that. I learned you can never count that man out. He lives and breathes “the process”.
The man is driven beyond measure.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 11:01 am to hwyman108
Don’t worry about the D.
Kaho, Anoma, and LaBryan Ray are about to take the defense up a notch. Very excited about all 3 of those studs.
With our CB’s, Surtain has a year under his belt, and Diggs is coming back. We’re good there.
LBs have Terrell Lewis coming back to join Jennings and Moses, then adding Kaho/Allen. That looks to be better than last season...
Lewis/Kaho/Allen > Mack/Miller/Mosley
DL is the most unknown, but Raekwon is back, LaBryan Ray always looks looked great to me, and we have a X factor with Alfano who could sneak in.
Kaho, Anoma, and LaBryan Ray are about to take the defense up a notch. Very excited about all 3 of those studs.
With our CB’s, Surtain has a year under his belt, and Diggs is coming back. We’re good there.
LBs have Terrell Lewis coming back to join Jennings and Moses, then adding Kaho/Allen. That looks to be better than last season...
Lewis/Kaho/Allen > Mack/Miller/Mosley
DL is the most unknown, but Raekwon is back, LaBryan Ray always looks looked great to me, and we have a X factor with Alfano who could sneak in.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 11:07 am to mrbroker
Saban isn't reinventing himself. He's simply working on improving his coaching staff.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 11:10 am to saban n bear
As bad as it felt on defense in 2018, Alabama still finished 16th in the country in overall defense.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 11:12 am to CapstoneGrad06
They faced 5 out of the top 14 offenses in the country while being down most of the edge rushers and best cover corner. They weren't the standard we are used to, but for the most part that defense performed well against everyone except Clemson. They stood up against UGA, held OU until they were up 28-0 and made key stops in the 2nd half, shut down Ole Miss and Mizzou. I actually think next year's defense could be great again with all that we have coming back in the backend.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 11:25 am
Posted on 1/19/19 at 11:14 am to Tider95
For reference, some are fawning over Jimmy Lake who coordinated the 14th ranked defense.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 2:35 pm to mrbroker
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Is Saban reinventing himself or is he going back to the basics
Neither one.
He wants to run what we ran last year, but scheme it, coach it, and call it better - and most of this is about defense. Locksley did a great job and would be our OC next year if the one and only Maryland job opened up.
The only "change" I could see him making is to go back to a defense that attacked more, but I don't believe this was a schematic issue in 2018, but a talent and depth (especially after injuries) standpoint.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 1/19/19 at 2:38 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Lake who coordinated the 14th ranked defense.
How is this in any way, shape, or form a negative, particularly when that team is recruiting in the Pacific Northwest?
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/19/19 at 2:49 pm to TidalSurge1
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Saban isn't reinventing himself. He's simply working on improving his coaching staff.
That.
But I'm looking forward to the next terrible thread with an equally dichotomous theme, like the classics:
"This loss either crushes a program or rejuvenates it"
"Saban is either completely past his prime or he's gearing up for one last run"
"You can't come back from this kind of loss unless you can"
"The dynasty is either over or they pissed off Smaug"
All of them were just awful threads, and the next one will be awful too.
Just a heads up folks: almost zero situations can be boiled down to or accurately described as a choice between 2 opposite things. The world isn't black and white, and it's also stupid to say "there are many shades of grey". Nope. The world is color and is never a binary system.
Reducing a situation to 2 things is just a person's attempt at feeling like they have a thing understood because not understanding is uncomfortable. It's a crutch. In reality, it's fine to not know, and it's fine for a situation to go a thousand different ways. It's actually what makes life interesting.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:22 pm to prevatt33
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But I'm looking forward to the next terrible thread with an equally dichotomous theme, like the classics:
"This loss either crushes a program or rejuvenates it"
"Saban is either completely past his prime or he's gearing up for one last run"
"You can't come back from this kind of loss unless you can"
"The dynasty is either over or they pissed off Smaug"
All of them were just awful threads, and the next one will be awful too.
Just a heads up folks: almost zero situations can be boiled down to or accurately described as a choice between 2 opposite things. The world isn't black and white, and it's also stupid to say "there are many shades of grey". Nope. The world is color and is never a binary system.
Reducing a situation to 2 things is just a person's attempt at feeling like they have a thing understood because not understanding is uncomfortable. It's a crutch. In reality, it's fine to not know, and it's fine for a situation to go a thousand different ways. It's actually what makes life interesting.
This post was either written by a big, veiny dick with a purplish hue or someone who aspires to be a big, veiny dick with a purplish hue or someone who's had big veiny purply dickness thrust upon him.
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