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re: Interesting Tidbit from Aaron Suttles new article...
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:18 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:18 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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He must not have cared that much 2016 because Jalen Hurts turned the ball over 14 times, and fumbled several others that we were lucky enough to recover.
Who on our roster would have done better in your mind?
The point is that if turning over the ball in a practice will preclude you from playing, then turning the ball over 14 times (!) in real live games (!!) certainly would call for trying somebody else because you don't know, do you, if the other guy might be better. Honestly, it wouldn't take much to be better than Jalen Hurts. We have won in spite of him, not because of him.
With that, I have to go work on a house. Bye
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:18 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Amen and why anybody would wish him to transfer is beyond me. We still need an experienced and viable #2 option at QB.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:19 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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Was that like an epiphany, a revelation, realizing that minimizing mistakes doesn't always mean winning, but sometimes, playing the better player actually means winning?
I honestly don't know. I think it was more of a "I have nothing left to lose at this point" decision.
I have personally heard Saban talk about the reason a play failed was because an offensive lineman didn't have the correct gap distance in his stance. He's hyper-focused on doing your job correctly every single time. If you don't, you don't play much, if at all.
I think to Saban, that's what determines the better player. Not talent, not seniority. Doing your job correctly. Handling your assignment. Every time.
Now, what he sees as "doing your job correctly" at the quarterback position may differ from everyone else's opinion. I don't know. But I think to infer that anything else is what's driving his decision over who plays QB is being disingenuous.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:22 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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The point is that if turning over the ball in a practice will preclude you from playing, then turning the ball over 14 times (!) in real live games (!!) certainly would call for trying somebody else because you don't know, do you, if the other guy might be better. Honestly, it wouldn't take much to be better than Jalen Hurts. We have won in spite of him, not because of him.
Clearly Saban thought the other people (they got opportunities btw) was not capable / better. The defense was less injured and had more depth last year too. Also, if Tua was on the team instead of hurts last year he would have probably started as a true freshman also.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:23 pm to Bamainva40
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We still need an experienced and viable #2 option at QB.
no doubt
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:25 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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The point is that if turning over the ball in a practice will preclude you from playing, then turning the ball over 14 times (!) in real live games (!!) certainly would call for trying somebody else because you don't know, do you, if the other guy might be better.
Probably so. Who were our other viable options in 2016? I don't remember who else we had at QB that Saban would have trusted.
And to that point, in 2017 Hurts had ... what, two turnovers? He protected the ball exceptionally well. Saban loves that.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:28 pm to Sauron
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I think it was more of a "I have nothing left to lose at this point" decision.
That's not an ideal way to function.
You can't be one dimensional and win against good teams. Shaky FG kicking made it that more dangerous.
Had we not scored on defense vs CU and setup another score with defense I believe Tua would have gotten some PT in that game as well. He may have played the entire second half.
Having a QB that could pass accurately and run vs awbarn would have helped a lot as well. Shaky QB play made the injuries and lack of defensive depth worse because we couldn't drive the ball consistently on offense.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:28 pm to Commander Data
I highly doubt that's why you were banned, I've literally personally insulted people on here and I'm still here, maybe you caught the wrong mod on the wrong day.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:29 pm to Sauron
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Who were our other viable options in 2016? I don't remember who else we had at QB that Saban would have trusted.
Bateman and Barnett. Bateman clearly couldn't do it. Barnett was given one or two real chances, but it was obvious that the coaches thought Hurts handled the pressure better.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:31 pm to Crimson Wraith
quote:Dropped balls and poor route running didn't help, either.
Shaky QB play made the injuries and lack of defensive depth worse because we couldn't drive the ball consistently on offense.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:32 pm to pvilleguru
Then they both went on their way, Cooper acted with class while BB acted like a spoiled bitch.lost all my respect when he called out CNS in the media
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:38 pm to pvilleguru
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Dropped balls and poor route running didn't help
Might be because the receivers weren't expecting to get any decent passes.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:47 pm to Crimson Wraith
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That's not an ideal way to function.
No, it's not, and I'm sure Saban hated being in that position.
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You can't be one dimensional and win against good teams.
You just said the running game and defense won us the national championship in 2009 -- the last team to go undefeated and win it, incidentally.
Personally, I wish Tua had become the starter earlier in the year, myself. But based on Saban's evaluations, Tua wasn't the better option during the season.
Frankly, I'm not qualified to tell him he was wrong, either.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:47 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Might be because the receivers weren't expecting to get any decent passes.
Such a bullshite excuse. Saban preaches "Do your job".
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:03 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Bateman was soft.
Try again.
Keep backpedaling...
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:03 pm to Crimson Wraith
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quote:Dropped balls and poor route running didn't help Might be because the receivers weren't expecting to get any decent passes.
Sorry but that's complete bullshite. When the receivers messed up this year there was 0 accountability on here for them. All on Hurts.
And Huddle, when in 2016 you have only 1 option who fumbles he had no choice.
But in 2017 you had little turnover and 1 QB who is turnover prone in practice.
These are not the same situations at all.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:05 pm to pvilleguru
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He could have. May or may not have worked out. Got very fortunate that some of Tua's mistakes didn't bite us in the arse.
What?!! He got very fortunate that Tua saved his arse by putting up 20 points in one half, and making a miraculous play in OT. Had Tua come up just short, how big of a dumbass would Saban have looked like for playing Jalen in the first half? Or most of the season?
Had Tua come up just short, I believe Saban would've drawn the ire of the Alabama fanbase for the first time, and rightfully so.
Saban totally got away with one
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:09 pm to BigBird09
Weak.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:10 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Sorry but that's complete Bull shite. When the receivers messed up this year there was 0 accountability on here for them. All on Hurts.
Well, that was part sarcasm. The receivers dropped some balls, but ...
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:13 pm to Crimson Wraith
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quote:Sorry but that's complete Bull shite. When the receivers messed up this year there was 0 accountability on here for them. All on Hurts. Well, that was part sarcasm. The receivers dropped some balls, but ...
Sorry I didn't pick it up.
Here's the good part, Tua is good but could be great with the offseason. if Jalen does stay, we have a 2nd string QB who has played in 2 national championships. Hard to top that at this point.
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