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Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:50 am to RTRnFlorida
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:50 am to RTRnFlorida
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When I went to bama, they had exercise science for students to take classes in to raise their GPA’s
When you went to Bama tv’s were in black and white. It’s almost like time marches on.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 4:53 am
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 7:08 am to Sandkhan
Probably didn’t have as many pansies like you on campus back then also. Time marches on tho, right?
Posted on 2/6/26 at 7:30 am to hwyman108
Hwyman is on my jock again. Another day that ends in Y. Corny arse
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 7:32 am
Posted on 2/6/26 at 7:57 am to Sandkhan
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Hwyman is on my jock again
Not surprised about you fantasizing about a man sucking your dick. If you ain’t got it on your mind it’s in your mouth.
Posted on 2/6/26 at 8:02 am to hwyman108
You’re a very weird person. Seek help.
Posted on 2/6/26 at 8:25 am to Diego Ricardo
Spot on.
If you look at the roster CKD inherited in 2024, it’s astonishing that the talent level had fallen so far. There was ZERO 1st/2nd round talent on the roster outside on Booker and Proctor.
Specifically, the skill positions were in shambles…a 17 year old Ryan Williams and transfer Bernard were the best they had at WR (both brought in by CKD).
CNS always had multiple NFL caliber RB’s on the roster, but all that was left was Jam and Haynes. TE was also a transfer (Cuevas). Most of all, the run of Tua/Mac/Bryce had come to an end to say the least….
Same defensively, not a single difference-maker in the Front-6 (7). Jihad Cambell was the only NFL talent out of all the DL, Edge and LB position groups.
Players like Justin Jefferson, Lawson (unfortunately bc of the knee injury) and having to bring in a transfers (Hill-Green) to play significant roles would’ve been unthinkable from 2008-2023.
The Secondary was in shambles as well after losing talents like Terrion Arnold, Mckinstry, both Safeties and then of course Downs transferred. They had to play Freshman Z Brown and D Jackson as 1st year players at both CB positions. Same at both Safety positions.
It’s amazing the defense finished #9 in scoring defense in 2024 with that group imo.
NIL/Portal effects. along with his age (to a lesser degree imo) led to this situation and decline under CNS. He was never going to allow himself to be held hostage by his own players and potential future recruits.
CKD has done a very impressive job bringing NFL caliber talent into the program. Most everyone (rival and Bama fans alike) expected a significant further decline in recruiting under CKD.
Now, two years later, the QB room is stocked with Russell/Mack/Thomalia and a CNS (prime years) caliber RB in Crowell, and Dear has a lot of potential as well.
The WR position could be one of the better groups around between Brooks/Meadows/Morgan and then potentially adding Sale and Sabb this year.
He has rebuilt the future core of the OL as well with Michael Carroll, Waldrep, Jackson Lyod, Sanders, Doughty, Cooley and it looks like they are making LT a top priority in this class (Hiller).
Having to start players like Pritchett, Formby, Dewberry, anc Geno Vandermark would have been unfathomable at any point under CNS. He always had 2-3 NFL caliber talents on the OL year after year.
Also, the defensive talents like Dijon Lee, Jordan Edmonds, Jireh Edwards, Xavier Griffin, Justin Hill, London Simmons, etc are the type of players the roster use to possess year in and year out up until 2024.
Looking back on it in hindsight, I don’t think even Bama fans realized CKD was inheriting a roster in 2024 that required a total overhaul/rebuild and the talent level had taken a complete nose-dive despite the media assuming CKD was inheriting a CNS roster on par with those of the past.
If you look at the roster CKD inherited in 2024, it’s astonishing that the talent level had fallen so far. There was ZERO 1st/2nd round talent on the roster outside on Booker and Proctor.
Specifically, the skill positions were in shambles…a 17 year old Ryan Williams and transfer Bernard were the best they had at WR (both brought in by CKD).
CNS always had multiple NFL caliber RB’s on the roster, but all that was left was Jam and Haynes. TE was also a transfer (Cuevas). Most of all, the run of Tua/Mac/Bryce had come to an end to say the least….
Same defensively, not a single difference-maker in the Front-6 (7). Jihad Cambell was the only NFL talent out of all the DL, Edge and LB position groups.
Players like Justin Jefferson, Lawson (unfortunately bc of the knee injury) and having to bring in a transfers (Hill-Green) to play significant roles would’ve been unthinkable from 2008-2023.
The Secondary was in shambles as well after losing talents like Terrion Arnold, Mckinstry, both Safeties and then of course Downs transferred. They had to play Freshman Z Brown and D Jackson as 1st year players at both CB positions. Same at both Safety positions.
It’s amazing the defense finished #9 in scoring defense in 2024 with that group imo.
NIL/Portal effects. along with his age (to a lesser degree imo) led to this situation and decline under CNS. He was never going to allow himself to be held hostage by his own players and potential future recruits.
CKD has done a very impressive job bringing NFL caliber talent into the program. Most everyone (rival and Bama fans alike) expected a significant further decline in recruiting under CKD.
Now, two years later, the QB room is stocked with Russell/Mack/Thomalia and a CNS (prime years) caliber RB in Crowell, and Dear has a lot of potential as well.
The WR position could be one of the better groups around between Brooks/Meadows/Morgan and then potentially adding Sale and Sabb this year.
He has rebuilt the future core of the OL as well with Michael Carroll, Waldrep, Jackson Lyod, Sanders, Doughty, Cooley and it looks like they are making LT a top priority in this class (Hiller).
Having to start players like Pritchett, Formby, Dewberry, anc Geno Vandermark would have been unfathomable at any point under CNS. He always had 2-3 NFL caliber talents on the OL year after year.
Also, the defensive talents like Dijon Lee, Jordan Edmonds, Jireh Edwards, Xavier Griffin, Justin Hill, London Simmons, etc are the type of players the roster use to possess year in and year out up until 2024.
Looking back on it in hindsight, I don’t think even Bama fans realized CKD was inheriting a roster in 2024 that required a total overhaul/rebuild and the talent level had taken a complete nose-dive despite the media assuming CKD was inheriting a CNS roster on par with those of the past.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 8:26 am
Posted on 2/6/26 at 8:25 am to Sandkhan
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This is the same as any other 50 year old saying “rub some dirt on it”
Water is for the weak
Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:29 am to Cover1Key
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Cover1Key
Hey man, where'd you get your glasses at? I've been looking for some like those but I haven't been able to find any with lenses that deeply crimson.
Seriously, though, I've decided to be optimistic about this upcoming season. DeBoer at least seems to have identified the problem areas from last year and taken steps to address them. I'm going to assume that we will improve until proven otherwise.
Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:15 am to TheTideMustRoll
2026 will tell the tale on Kalen and his staff
At some point the player and family has to take responsibility for the lack of discipline. It starts at home and that has always been the case. Now it's the problem.
Ben Franklin can't solve everything. Blaming the strength coach is the real way to solve. Yep.
At some point the player and family has to take responsibility for the lack of discipline. It starts at home and that has always been the case. Now it's the problem.
Ben Franklin can't solve everything. Blaming the strength coach is the real way to solve. Yep.
Posted on 2/6/26 at 12:23 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Hey man, where'd you get your glasses at? I've been looking for some like those but I haven't been able to find any with lenses that deeply crimson.
Seriously, though, I've decided to be optimistic about this upcoming season. DeBoer at least seems to have identified the problem areas from last year and taken steps to address them. I'm going to assume that we will improve until proven otherwise.
I agree with his points that late Saban talent identification, acquisition, and development left a lot to be desired. The man didn't literally coach every position group. His late staffs were just simply mediocre.
However whether we're turning the corner with more talent-rich teams now is mostly a TBD thing in my opinion. However I can squint and see it be true. This regime doesn't get the Saban benefit of the doubt that let us overlook the roster and development decline late in his tenure. Firmly Prove It sort of situation for me.
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:26 pm to Sandkhan
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This is the same as any other 50 year old saying “rub some dirt on it”
I feel attacked.
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:31 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
2026 will tell the tale on Kalen and his staff
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Not sure I want Byrne picking the next coach. Maybe we need a new AD first, with some balls.
Posted on 2/6/26 at 6:39 pm to Shocco
Actually, barring a collapse of some kind, IMO, it will be 2027. I think, and hope, the administration feels the same way.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 8:25 am to RTRnFlorida
Anyone that thinks our strength and conditioning isn't a point of concern is being blind. We do not push anyone around anymore, on EITHER side of the ball.
We had to run trick plays to gain TWO yards on 4th down FFS.
We had to run trick plays to gain TWO yards on 4th down FFS.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 8:36 am to bamarep
Agree. One hundo. There wasn’t a bama fan on this planet at 4th and 1 inside our 30 against Indiana, who actually thought or truly believed we would get it. We got manhandled all year against good competition.
We aren’t Bama anymore.But at least we’re not Auburn
We aren’t Bama anymore.But at least we’re not Auburn
Posted on 2/7/26 at 8:51 am to bamarep
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Anyone that thinks our strength and conditioning isn't a point of concern is being blind. We do not push anyone around anymore, on EITHER side of the ball.
Anyone who thinks being able to push people around is a strength and conditioning issue just hasn’t played football. Or high level football.
It’s technique and leverage and that is coaching. You can line up the worlds strongest man across the line from Zack Martin and Zack Martin is going to run him 6 yards off the line and dump him on his arse.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 9:13 am to Sandkhan
You’re just guessing at this point, with hypotheticals. Strength and conditioning goes a very long way. Grit can only get you so far.
Against Most teams, we don’t look as big or strong. Running the football and defense wins championships. That’s meat on both sides of the ball.
By your metrics, 5 Parker’s on the o-line would make you happy? GTFOH.
Against Most teams, we don’t look as big or strong. Running the football and defense wins championships. That’s meat on both sides of the ball.
By your metrics, 5 Parker’s on the o-line would make you happy? GTFOH.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 9:28 am to RTRnFlorida
“Grit will only get you so far”. I’m not talking about grit. I’m talking about leverage, hand placement, timing, etc.
I’m not going to go back and forth with you about this. I can guarantee you our players at the combine will grade out higher than say….Indiana’s. Our linemen will be drafted higher.
Why did they get pushed around? Because our leverage and technique was bad. We fired our o line coach for a reason.
Y’all can keep saying it’s S&C…but you’ll sound like a casual. And that’s fine. The world needs casuals. Someone has to call in to Finebaum.
I’m not going to go back and forth with you about this. I can guarantee you our players at the combine will grade out higher than say….Indiana’s. Our linemen will be drafted higher.
Why did they get pushed around? Because our leverage and technique was bad. We fired our o line coach for a reason.
Y’all can keep saying it’s S&C…but you’ll sound like a casual. And that’s fine. The world needs casuals. Someone has to call in to Finebaum.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 9:35 am to Sandkhan
Bama had 4 players on the All Sec Team
1st team Proctor and Hubbard
2nd team Lawson
3rd team Brailsford
All That Talent
maybe not
1st team Proctor and Hubbard
2nd team Lawson
3rd team Brailsford
All That Talent
maybe not
Posted on 2/7/26 at 9:44 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
2 of those are offensive linemen.
The SEC is also 16 teams. 22 positions multiplied by 3(1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team) is 66. Divided by 16 is 4.125
So we had about the amount of All SEC players you would expect in a deep conference with a lot of talent.
The SEC is also 16 teams. 22 positions multiplied by 3(1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team) is 66. Divided by 16 is 4.125
So we had about the amount of All SEC players you would expect in a deep conference with a lot of talent.
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