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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
Posted on 4/7/19 at 3:49 pm to Bamadoc
Posted on 4/7/19 at 3:49 pm to Bamadoc
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An ugly look all the way around. We all can agree Nick does everything to make the program the best. He sometimes derails his own process by speaking his mind unfiltered.
#15 spoke his mind at the heat of the moment which he will regret. He runs hot, and I hope with maturity that goes away. It did with me.
Nick just needs to understand, even though means well, he cant talk about someone's money. That's a sensitive issue to anyone much less a young adult that grew up without much.
At most, this is a moderately interesting news story on a slow news day.
A grown man spoke his mind, giving a pointed but respectful opinion upon being asked a direct question. Another grown man said his short piece, as he was mentioned as part of the first grown man's point.
And that's fricking it. There's no more story. Grown men are allowed to disagree, perhaps pointedly, about a thing and it not be scandalous, salacious, or even noteworthy.
This is 2 scoops of nothing on top of a nothing cone, yet a bunch of y'all got your skirts all blown up about it. frick me, has humanity gotten soft...
EDIT: My post is not aimed directly at the person I quoted. That quote merely summed up the overreaction of the previous few pages and was a good thing to hang my post on.
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 3:52 pm
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Posted on 4/7/19 at 3:55 pm to prevatt33
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At most, this is a moderately interesting news story on a slow news day.
A grown man spoke his mind, giving a pointed but respectful opinion upon being asked a direct question. Another grown man said his short piece, as he was mentioned as part of the first grown man's point.
And that's fricking it. There's no more story. Grown men are allowed to disagree, perhaps pointedly, about a thing and it not be scandalous, salacious, or even noteworthy.
Thank you. This is the whole thing. It's a whole lot of nothing
Posted on 4/7/19 at 5:22 pm to Cobrasize
IMO...
Just because Saban has the right to say this doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.
Just because Harrison has the right to say this doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.
This is where culture wars begin. Just because one can doesn't mean one should...
Just because Saban has the right to say this doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.
Just because Harrison has the right to say this doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.
This is where culture wars begin. Just because one can doesn't mean one should...
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 4/7/19 at 5:57 pm to stomp
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IMO...
Just because Saban has the right to say this doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.
Just because Harrison has the right to say this doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.
This is where culture wars begin. Just because one can doesn't mean one should...
Why is the average American so obsessed with telling others how to live their lives? Why is this specific topic - telling people what they should have done or what they should do - so addictive to Americans? Why can't folks discuss a thing without funneling the entire topic he/you/they should do or have done X, and he/you/they are wrong for disagreeing?
Why do folks have to do you? What can't each man do himself without 247 commentary and criticism over the smallest piddly bullshite.
I can promise you that much of the rest of the world can "live and let live" much better than the US.
And no, the topic in the OP is not a significant sports story in any way, shape, or form.
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 4/7/19 at 10:07 pm to prevatt33
with all the "talk and tweets" about what Saban said about guys leaving "too" early for the draft; anyone know what kind of counseling and training Bama provides for the guys as they are moving towards decision day?
Seems it would be good idea to provide some "electives" about How it works, getting as much as you can as early as you can, patience in all things, trusting the process. Not all will be Julio Jones and just keep getting paid, how many don't get past their 1st contract? how many never make it past their 2nd/3rd year? Wife actually was asking me these questions when she hear the presser yesterday and I really could not answer her... any help appreciated
Seems it would be good idea to provide some "electives" about How it works, getting as much as you can as early as you can, patience in all things, trusting the process. Not all will be Julio Jones and just keep getting paid, how many don't get past their 1st contract? how many never make it past their 2nd/3rd year? Wife actually was asking me these questions when she hear the presser yesterday and I really could not answer her... any help appreciated
Posted on 4/7/19 at 10:45 pm to RollTide66
The average NFL career lasts just over 3 years.
Saban is just laying the facts out there, people who don't like them should close their eyes put their fingers in their ears.
Saban is just laying the facts out there, people who don't like them should close their eyes put their fingers in their ears.
This post was edited on 4/7/19 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 4/7/19 at 10:48 pm to 3down10
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Posted on 4/8/19 at 12:20 am to BamaGradinTn
The point was fine (and probably correct) but I think Saban should have given a more general example to illustrate it.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 3:04 am to 3down10
Saban prolly should not have gotten specific but it was necessary in this case to drive the point home. Saban’s entire process is aimed at taking gambling and happenstance out of the equation and making decisions based on history and league generated data. Ronnie chose to gamble on making it to his second contract. Saban thought he was a good enough player that with an additional year of college ball couldve made more money. Injuries happen, but there are also ways to minimize that risk by taking out insurance policies. We’re too outcome oriented- which is to say that Ronnie may make it to a big 2nd contract pay day thereby making his decision to leave a good one. Thats wrong. Decisions made on what has not happened is not how sound business decisions are made. Theyre made by doing your due diligence, gathering data and looking at history/trends. History says he made a bad call that may actually work out.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 9:13 am to ReauxlTide222
Interesting that Ronnie doesn't seem to be getting much support from his former teammates.
Hopefully, Ronnie saves his money now and doesn't get hurt to where he gets another contract. Unfortunately, all of these guys need to get as much as they can when they can, because one injury can end their playing days. Saban probably should have given an example without mentioning a specific year. Ronnie made his business decision...money now. He got paid lots of $$...good for him. Playing for Saban at Alabama got him recognition, access to pro scouts/coaches, and TV time to increase his market value. He might want to recognize that Saban thought he was more valuable than what he got paid.
Hopefully, Ronnie saves his money now and doesn't get hurt to where he gets another contract. Unfortunately, all of these guys need to get as much as they can when they can, because one injury can end their playing days. Saban probably should have given an example without mentioning a specific year. Ronnie made his business decision...money now. He got paid lots of $$...good for him. Playing for Saban at Alabama got him recognition, access to pro scouts/coaches, and TV time to increase his market value. He might want to recognize that Saban thought he was more valuable than what he got paid.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 3:20 pm to BamaGradinTn
Look, at the end of the day, it is the player’s decision. Yes, Coach is right that he could’ve made more, but it is not his decision. Calling out former players who did a very good job, well, I’m not sure how I feel about that.
Posted on 4/8/19 at 4:03 pm to Bham4Tide
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Calling out former players
I personally don't view what Saban said as "calling out" someone. Saban used a person as an example of a missed opportunity, and it's an excellent example and he's right, especially given the nature of limb/performance insurance nowadays.
And guess what: it worked like a charm. Bama has been in the news for as couple days now, and what has been the topic? First round NFL money vs settling for 3rd round money. And every recruit in the country saw it as did our players.
Saban's 4-minute speech about staying at Bama to get dat money has been a 100% homerun recruiting tool, and viewing it any other way is nonsense.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:40 am to prevatt33
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Saban's 4-minute speech about staying at Bama to get dat money has been a 100% homerun recruiting tool, and viewing it any other way is nonsense.
And if Harrison gets his panties in a wad about it, tough shite.
Posted on 4/12/19 at 5:12 am to Hungry0674
An insurance policy payout for a projected second round safety isn't going to be that much. Dude gambled on taking the money now. If he came back and tore his knee up severely he would have to fall back on a million dollar insurance policy and being a PE teacher. I don't know his situation so I can't judge and he's still a multimillionaire so it's not like he is poor
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