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BamaGradinTn
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Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
Calls out Ronnie Harrison a little bit, apparently.

""If you're a third-round draft pick, and we had one here last year -- I'm not going to say any names -- goes and starts for his team, so he's making third-round money, which is not that great. He'd be the first guy taken at his position this year, probably, and make $15-18 million more."
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AlaBayouBama
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
Yep, that's exactly who he was referring to.


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AlaBayouBama
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
Also thought the leaving early comments were the best part of today's press conference.

Recommend watching it for those who haven't. You can hear the frustration/exasperation in Saban's voice.


ReauxlTide222
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
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I'm not going to say any names



Guys fall in the draft sometimes. He should have been drafted well before the 3rd round and is proving it. He also could have been injured during his senior season.

I didn't see anything wrong with him leaving early.


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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
Saban's not wrong. Harrison's total rookie contract, all in, was $3.38 million. His signing bonus alone would have been almost double that if he'd gone first at his position.


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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
I think this was a message to Thompson as well. Saban wanted him to stay, if the rumors are true


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Evolved Simian
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
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I didn't see anything wrong with him leaving early.


He did what he wanted to do. There's nothing inherently wrong with that.

There's also nothing wrong with someone pointing out that he locked himself into 4 years at a little above the league minimum, and gets $3 million total when he easily could have waited a few months and signed for $26 million, which is what last year's top safety got.

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Shaft Williams
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
There are no guarantees and Ronnie I believe grew up as a foster child. Saban has been a millionaire for a long time. I'm not saying Saban is right or wrong but his position is awfully different from a guy who is an orphan.
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ReauxlTide222
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
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when he easily could have waited a few months and signed for $26 million, which is what last year's top safety got.
That isn't even close to a given.


ReauxlTide222
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
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Saban's not wrong. Harrison's total rookie contract, all in, was $3.38 million. His signing bonus alone would have been almost double that if he'd gone first at his position.
It doesn't matter if he's right or wrong.

I have no problem with Saban pleading his case when it's time for the players and their families to make the decision.

But leave it alone after that. Have your players' backs.


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an orphan


Yeah, none of that is true. His mom sat next to him at his signing ceremony.


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Evolved Simian
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
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I have no problem with Saban pleading his case when it's time for the players and their families to make the decision.

But leave it alone after that. Have your players' backs.




And I have no problem with him using a former player as an example for current players. This the real world, after all. If he hides things from them because someone's feelings might get hurt, he's doing those current players a terrible disservice.


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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
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That isn't even close to a given.




It's not, which is why Saban was being pretty cautious with the estimate by saying $15 million. The actual difference last year was $23.1 million.

Even a difference of $15 million would be less than the #3 safety got last year.


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Shaft Williams
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
Maybe I'm confusing Ronnie with Calvin Ridley.


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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
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Maybe I'm confusing Ronnie with Calvin Ridley.




Could be. Lots of kids grow up without one or both parents these days. We've probably got several on the team at any given time who were raised by grandmothers.

Derrick Henry comes to mind.

I don't fault anyone for jumping at some money if they've never had any. It can be hard to turn down, but I think some wise counsel about other options, including learning from what others have done is very important.



phil4bama
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
The thing is, Saban is usually pretty straight with guys. He tells them when they should go and take the money and when they should wait another year. He’s got a fairly long record of being forthright about it. There’s a lot of variables in these situations so I’m not going to point fingers. But he’s just saying the player passed up a lot more money and locked himself into a minimal contract because he didn’t listen. The player may have had a good reason to go but that doesn’t change the rest of the facts.


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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
I think a lot of y'all are missing the point he's trying to make. It's not just about Ronnie. It's about all the guys who leave early (many of whom won't even be drafted) and end up out of football in 2-3 years after making a few hundred thousand dollars if they're lucky. Statistically that's about half of all early draft entrants. Pretty soon they find themselves broke, 24 year old college dropouts with no marketable degree or skills and no job prospects. If Ronnie gets hurt next season and it derails his career, is he really better off over the next 40 years than he would have been if he had come back and graduated but got hurt during his senior season?


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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
Nick speaks in terms of facts and not personal feelings. 1st,2nd,3rd round players and not personal players. Sounds cold but so is the NFL. Harrison is making more today than 95% of the students that graduated from the U of A in his class. Maybe Ronnie and others are just tired of the grind and making 500K per years sounds pretty good. Either choice is right and wrong. Eddie Lacy never got that big deal but he needed to go when he did. Injuries killed the kid and I hate that.


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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
Well Ronnie Harrison has responded and not kindly.

Saban probably shouldn't have said all that (even though it was factual), but Ronnie being disrespectful is all bad.

That ain't it Ronnie.


Saban is fighting for his program.... but he is also pointing out the pros and cons of your interest as well.

You making 3 million for Chicago to get the best out of you for three years and there ain't a guarantee you will get the big contract. Yeah you could get injured your senior year but you also could lose a lot of money.

In this case Ronnie lost like 10 to 20 million. If he's good with that, no sweat off my back because it's his decision and he has to live with it... not all the people who want him to do what they want.
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ReauxlTide222
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re: Interesting interview with Saban re: leaving early
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And I have no problem with him using a former player as an example for current players.
In a fricking press conference for the media and then subsequent ESPN article?

Y'all have to be joking.


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