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re: Important words from a national podcast:

Posted on 11/10/19 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 2:52 pm to
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Sure, but why in the ninth game of the season have those guys not developed more?


Many people are forgetting just how much offensive football has changed in the last 5 years. The RPO is nuts, in addition to the myriad other things teams are doing now.

Secondly, I think they (Lee and Harris) have developed a lot. I just think they had an incredible distance to travel since mid-September.

Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 2:56 pm to
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It’s convenient to blame it all on the freshmen but there are many other issues - penalties and blown assignments on the back end - that can’t be explained by that answer.


I completely disagree, but of course, there were mental mistakes in many places. We didn't play well.

I seem to remember this happening every now and then in past years. It's not new. We don't play perfectly all the time and never have.

We've had lackluster offenses and elite defenses many, many times and everyone was ok with it. Now that it's flipped, you guys think the universe ending.

We lost a game because of personnel issues and playing badly to boot, but we nearly came back and beat the best LSU team in my lifetime. The sky is the same distance away that it was yesterday.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 2:58 pm to
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It’s convenient to blame it all on the freshmen


What's convenient is to blame coaches 100% of the time like this board does, because of course, armchair QBs have all the right play calls.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 3:03 pm to
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Coaching is the issue. We have 4 nationally recruited ILBers and Golding can't coach up any of them? And, couldn't coach up Mack Wilson who is excelling in the NFL.


Every player is responsible for his own self-determination. The kids are not robots to be controlled with 100% efficiency like a video game. When Mack Wilson was good at Bama, it was because he was doing the right things. When he stopped doing those things, his play suffered. And no coach on earth can control every player's every action. A defensive coordinator is not a god.

I really wish more of this board had coaching experience. It's very different from Madden. The players don't always do what you want - no one is all powerful.

Also, what if we're just the 4th or 5th best team in CFB this year? Is that so bad?

Are you not entertained?
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13238 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 3:06 pm to
Amen to the coaching part
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 3:25 pm to
The coaches and defense didn't fumble the ball untouched while probably going for a score.

The coaches and defense didn't throw an interception just before halftime and give LSU an easy score.

The coaches and defense didn't give LSU a questionable catch at the six inch line.

While BAMA played a less than stellar game, the sky is not falling, and some of you spoiled brats need to get over a slightly better team winning.

I've been a BAMA fan my whole life since being being born in Druid City Hospital in 1960. You snowflakes aren't going to make it through your first 7-5 season. Saban will eventually have one, Bear had a couple.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 3:25 pm to
I must clarify that I'm not saying Golding is an amazing DC. He has room for improvement, as does everyone.

I'm saying that we have obvious other deficiencies that are clearly much higher on the list of things holding us back. Golding's coaching ability is well below other things on the list.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 3:32 pm to
At the end of the day it doesn't matter who on here is right or wrong. As long as the media and the CFP selection committee recognizes the issues we had during the lsu game.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11182 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 3:49 pm to
Any thoughts on how Diggs went from borderline lockdown DB with first day draft potential to Savion Smith over the bye week?

They threw at him all day.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13238 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 4:16 pm to
I was talking about his comment that he wishes more on this board had coaching experience

I have been a HS coach for 23 years ... you can only do so much and then they have to win the one on one battles

You need to read before responding .... I am not the snowflake calling players and coaches trash and sky is falling comments
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14482 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 4:51 pm to
Nobody is 100 percent blaming the coaches, but you are the only one 100 percent blaming the players.
Posted by 4quartaBamaball
Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Nov 2015
1622 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:00 pm to
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than it does with coaching


Piss poor calls on 3rd and long in the 4th quarter. no spies on Burrow..

lets not even start with the offensive play calls. Gimpy Tua scrambling on 4th down in the 1st? Awful decision.

Situational football is not this coaching staffs strengths.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35446 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Gimpy Tua scrambling on 4th down in the 1st? Awful decision.


Usually scrambling is something the QB improvised, not a called play.

Now the play call forced him to make that decision, but that's football.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:15 pm to
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you are the only one 100 percent blaming the players.


No, I'm not. I'm reacting to half the board calling for both our OC and DC to be fired after losing to one of the best teams we've played in years by 5 points. And I'm reacting to the notion that getting some other OC or DC in here is going to result in a coaching staff that can overcome significant defensive personnel issues or result in infallible play-calling.

The expectations are ridiculous.
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4804 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:18 pm to


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Piss poor calls on 3rd and long in the 4th quarter. no spies on Burrow..


This really bothered me very much towards the end of the game. Even a lay person like me could recognize that during clutch time LSU was relying on Burrow and Elaire for big plays. But for some reason our players and coaches seemed unconcerned.
We continually lost them in traffic or missed tackles on them. Became the difference in the game in the fourth quarter.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:26 pm to
Yeah, Prevatt(b), I’m taking your side. Coaching is dealing with people, and, in this case, young ones. These coaches are trying to coach guys up, but it takes time. Many of these guys probably did not play system oriented ball in high school - they dominated the field with their superlative skill and athleticism. It takes a while for some to learn to work together and trust one another.

Yesterday was one of those perfect storm games for us. We did inexplicable (bad) things and the opponent’s quarterback play was unreal. Tua’s injury was a bigger deal than I had previously realized. The lack of full-speed practice was a factor. We still ended up competitive. Al.com had an interesting article about the coaching staff sort of expecting that something like this game could happen. LINK
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14482 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 5:48 pm to
Heres the problem - personnel issues aren’t what is causing a lot of our problems. Careless mistakes and penalties and guys consistently blowing coverage because they don’t know what to do (and these are highly recruited upperclassmen) are coaching problems. Nobody is saying our linebackers are a strength.

We didn’t have the right personnel on the field ON THE FIRST PLAY OF A DRIVE and it cost us an interception and ended up giving LSU three points.

We have upperclassmen in the secondary trying to take on a much heavier and stronger player high and strip the ball instead of making a sound tackle - over and over - on one occasion getting drug four yards and preserving a drive late in the game. What happened to just taking the guys legs out from under him?
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 5:53 pm
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 6:38 pm to
I have no problem with either strip attempts. They were the best decisions. The rewards would have been great. The best we were going to do was hold LSU to a field goal that would have put them up two scores anyway, with even less time than we had left. If we get the strip and recover, we’ve got a hot handed Tua leading out team down the field with just minutes on the clock for a potential winning score. Same thing on the second strip attempt. It was a high risk high reward type of play and was the right one. Again, a fumble recovery puts us in great field position to score and win.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
14482 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 7:19 pm to
On the 3rd and 10 play the FG (which would’ve been 45+ yards - no gimme)It was not the time to try and strip it. Not when you have a chance to stop the drive.

And that’s been going on all year - it didn’t just start last night.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Gustave
Member since Nov 2015
3389 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 8:01 pm to
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On the 3rd and 10 play the FG (which would’ve been 45+ yards - no gimme)It was not the time to try and strip it. Not when you have a chance to stop the drive.



Our offense was clicking. We needed anything but a TD to give them a chance.
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