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I think Metchie comes back

Posted on 1/12/22 at 4:02 am
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 4:02 am
I know everyone has penciled him in as gone, but I don’t know if that’s the case anymore with the ACL year. Just looking at most mocks, he’s sitting around the end of the second or the start of the third. With the recovery timeline it would give him enough room to come back in September or even August, and he could work himself into a late first.

I know it sounds crazy, but Devonta came back and he wasn’t looking at a third round grade
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 4:13 am to
I doubt it, but with NIL money these days, that may mitigate the leaving for the draft for a lot of players.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
3316 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 4:19 am to
Just from a contract perspective it makes sense to me. A move from last in the second round to first in the second round is a little over 4M (8M contract vs 4M) doubling the total contract value. So worst case scenario, he makes back that 1.25M a year he’s missed out on (annual value 64th pick) relatively quickly even if he doesn’t crack the first. I think if he finishes next year he’ll crack the 20’s, which is tripling that contract he’s projected to get if he goes around 23-24.

Even without NIL I’m seeing enough opportunity cost to justify it.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 4:21 am
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3108 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 6:00 am to
Based on the timing of his injury, when would he be able to be back at full speed? Would he be able to play most of next season to improve his draft stock. Just wondering.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12832 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:30 am to
Williams is in the same spot as Metchie. The smart move is to return in the fall even though both will not be ready to rumble until November.

Or do both take a chance they will be drafted in April even with their ACL recovery will not have them ready to play in the fall (NFL).

Truth is both are screwed due to the timing of their injury.

Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22571 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:51 am to
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both will not be ready to rumble until November


Didn’t Pickens tear his ACL in spring practice? It’s pretty amazing how fast some guys are recovering from that these days.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:56 am to
The ACL isn't the injury it was in the past due to medical advances. Williams and Metchie will get drafted. I honestly don't anticipate either losing much as far as positioning in the draft due to their ACL injuries.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7701 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:08 am to
quote:

doubt it, but with NIL money these days, that may mitigate the leaving for the draft for a lot of players.


Why not? He isn’t going in the first two rounds. With the injury, he’s likely waiting until the last day.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7701 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Williams is in the same spot as Metchie. The smart move is to return in the fall even though both will not be ready to rumble until November.


I think Williams situation is different. He was looking at top 15 prior to the injury. I still think he’s a first round maybe early second.
I edited to say Metchie was improving his draft status pre injury.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 9:23 am
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
941 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:18 am to
I don't see Metchie improving to be a 1st round pick even if he comes back. He is a high end #2 WR for us. At the NFL level he will be at best a #2 or may be a #3 possession receiver. He does not have the top end speed to be a #1. My guess is a day two guy at the draft even if he comes back.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22571 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:18 am to
Yea that’s what I was getting at, I don’t think the injury will effect either’s draft stats too much. I personally think Metchie leaves too. He’s a borderline first rounder but regardless, I don’t know what else he could do to improve is stock with another year. He had a huge year this season and is a great route runner and he is what he is athletically. Nothing changes with another year in college.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7701 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:20 am to
quote:

I don't see Metchie improving to be a 1st round pick even if he comes back. He is a high end #2 WR for us. At the NFL level he will be at best a #2 or may be a #3 possession receiver. He does not have the top end speed to be a #1. My guess is a day two guy at the draft even if he comes back.


I agree. It really is an awful misfortune because in my opinion, pre injury, he was heading into a possible 1st round pick.
He could have with great combine numbers.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13030 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 10:06 am to
I think it's 50/50 both come back now with the unfortunate injuries.

No NFL team is wasting a 1st round pick on someone who won't contribute next year, especially on a receiver.

It all depends on the draft grades, how quickly they are expected to heal and what their family situations are.

If some booster NIL deals are set up, that could hold them over next season and both would benefit from going into the 2023 draft completely healthy.

Plus another year with Young throwing them the ball will only help and there is unfinished business to take care of.
Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
Member since Dec 2010
2883 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:04 pm to
I think Metchie can add value coming back, Jamo has put enough on tape to solidify a first round pick.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 6:18 pm to
It would be nice but if he grades well enough he should go to the NFL and make his money.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12832 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 6:24 pm to
LINK

NFL 2021 draft by round and the contract for each selection

1st player 3rd round 5.2 million
1st player 4th round 4.3 million
1st player 5th round 3.8 million
Posted by BamaFan107
Madison
Member since Dec 2019
893 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 6:43 pm to
After this kind of injury, I think it’s best for both to go. Neither would be 100 percent before the season and another year in college is not changing much for either. Get healthy fellas, and go live out your dreams
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10345 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 6:53 pm to
I remember years ago Rod Woodson when he was playing for the Steelers tore his ACL and was able to play in the Super Bowl that same season. But, I admit I don't know what's going on with ACL injuries nowadays where guys tear their ACL and they are walking around without crutches 30-45 minutes post-injury like Metchie and Jameson.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 6:54 pm
Posted by A-TOWNUAFAN
Alabama
Member since May 2013
5087 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:11 pm to
I tore mine in a game in 06 and walked on it for 4 days without crutches before getting the MRI confirming I tore it. That bitch swole up instantly and had to cut my pants at the knee pads to get them off

I had to get a cadaver because I tore it lose on both ends and it died
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
731 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

If some booster NIL deals are set up, that could hold them over next season and both would benefit from going into the 2023 draft completely healthy. Plus another year with Young throwing them the ball will only help and there is unfinished business to take care of.


Unless they tear it again and make zero dollars by becoming entirely undraftable.

Go get guaranteed money, fellas.
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