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High-ranking member of Patriots reportedly wants Bill O'Brien as offensive coordinator

Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted by MikeyInTheHam
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jan 2007
827 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19555 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:35 pm to
Yes Lord

One bum out and the second one shortly to follow.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3107 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 2:47 pm to
That would make sense. They've shown they don't know what they're doing.
Posted by RollTideNL
Member since Jan 2019
356 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:04 pm to
The great thing is that it doesn't matter. He's already gone: BoB's contract has expired.

Saban offloading Golding (who was under contract for 1 more year) to Ole Miss shows us that Saban means business. No way he's going to offer BoB a new deal.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
5982 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:19 pm to
I saw that Dabo may have taken Riley off the table as OC.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9220 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:00 pm to
Guess that means Mac Jones needs to hope for a trade.
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
1986 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:03 pm to
O'Brien has literally never been successful anywhere! Why would ANYONE want him?.....But by all means, give him to anyone that will take him.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:24 pm to
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High-ranking member of Patriots reportedly wants Bill O'Brien as offensive coordinator


What a coincidence. Me too!
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1987 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:36 pm to
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O'Brien has literally never been successful anywhere! Why would ANYONE want him?
Simply not true.

- NE - Brady had 2 of his three best years as a Patriot during OB's three years as OC.

- PSU - shocked the football world in the aftermath of the Sandusky scandal by turning PSU into a decent-good team and Matt McGloin from someone who looked like a bad HS QB into a decent QB as the PSU HC - was an NFL backup for several years. OB won the Paul Bryant National Coach of the Year.

- Houston - won 4 division titles in 6 years, two of those titles were with Tom Savage/Case Keenum/Brock OSweiler as QB. Bryce Young, DeShaun Watson and Brady all thanked and praised him for all that they learned about playing QB from him. He became GM his last year or two and traded Hopkins for David Johnson and a 2nd and 4th round pick. All-time bad trade but he was a successful HC there.

I'm glad that he is leaving but he is not what some Alabama fans think.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4024 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:46 pm to
Agree. He’s had some good stints but didn’t mesh with Bryce’s skill set. Not awful at all.
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
1986 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 1:19 am to
Show me championships. He is a Mark Richt of DCs....His time at Alabama was not to Alabama standards. So bottomline, do you want to keep him? Hell no! So nothing else matters.
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 1:28 am
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
2095 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 1:39 am to
This high ranking member seems like a very intelligent man I say give him what he wants
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
8737 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:49 am to
quote:

He’s had some good stints but didn’t mesh with Bryce’s skill set


Bryce won the Heisman with O'Brien as his OC.

Don't get me wrong... I'll be glad when he's replaced, but to the outside world who hasn't watched every Bama game, both he and Golding look like they have great resume enhancers from their time at Bama.

Like anyone really thinks Golding made the choice to go to Oxford all on his own like they're reporting LOL.

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19555 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:06 am to
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Bryce won the Heisman with O'Brien as his OC.


Bryce won the Heisman because Jameson was a cheat code and Metchie was a beast.

He was literally just making time in the pocket and hurl passes to these guys. Highlight reel stuff.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
8737 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 11:41 am to
True...but it still goes on O'Brien's resume...justified or not. Just like Golding had "top 20" defenses as DC.

The eye test tells you more than the stats. O'Brien leaving will be a positive, but the real move that was a must have was Golding "deciding" to go to Ole Miss.
Posted by BCBAMA
Southeast Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
984 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 11:48 am to
Well said, sir
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3107 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Simply not true.

- NE - Brady had 2 of his three best years as a Patriot during OB's three years as OC.

- PSU - shocked the football world in the aftermath of the Sandusky scandal by turning PSU into a decent-good team and Matt McGloin from someone who looked like a bad HS QB into a decent QB as the PSU HC - was an NFL backup for several years. OB won the Paul Bryant National Coach of the Year.

- Houston - won 4 division titles in 6 years, two of those titles were with Tom Savage/Case Keenum/Brock OSweiler as QB. Bryce Young, DeShaun Watson and Brady all thanked and praised him for all that they learned about playing QB from him. He became GM his last year or two and traded Hopkins for David Johnson and a 2nd and 4th round pick. All-time bad trade but he was a successful HC there.



Simply not true.

He was only OC at New England a season and a half. Brady and numerous former players have discussed in interviews that they had to change 75-80% of what he called to be successful.

His numbers at Penn St are highly overrated when you look at each game and who they played.

When he was running the offense with the Texans, their offense was above middle of the NFL only one season and was in the bottom half in the rest.

It became pretty clear that Bryce's ability to improvise, Jameson and Metch had more to do with Bryce's Heisman and the team's offensive success.

He did have some success early on with the Texans but it wasn't based on his offensive planning and play calling. By the end, a lot of the players hated him and even Watt tried to whip his arse in practice. He was a terrible GM but if he had been a good coach they would have kept him as head coach and moved someone else into the GM position. They wanted him away from the team entirely.
The owner dumped Bill after 2020 in an attempt to improve the toxicity on the team and keep Watt. It was so bad, Watt left anyway. And as we can see today, Houston has never recovered from what Bill did.

Those QBs you said praised him are still playing and aren't going to trash a coach publicly.

Shouldn't have been hired to start with.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55987 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 12:58 pm to
I think that the truth is somewhere in the middle of what you guys are arguing, as it often is. Bill O'brien is a good coach, but he's a pretty average play-caller. He most certainly called some really good games for us, but talent bailed him out a good bit. We destroyed UGA's all-world defense in 2021. But then there were several inexplicable games where we simply could not move the ball forward against average defenses for most of the game.

As Shocco said, he just doesn't meet the standard that we expect. That's it.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 10:53 am to
LINK ]Patriots Rumors: Why Bill O’Brien ‘Not Gung-Ho’ About OC Job (NESN)
quote:

Bill O’Brien seems like a perfect fit for the Patriots, but does he see it that way?

O’Brien, who spent one season as New England’s offensive coordinator in 2011, reportedly is a leading candidate for the Patriots’ OC vacancy. And with Bill Belichick set to interview coaches for the role this week, it might not be long before O’Brien is announced as Matt Patricia’s replacement.

However, Boston Sports Journal’s Greg Bedard on Saturday indicated that O’Brien, who spent the last two seasons with Alabama, might not be sold on a return to Foxboro.

“He checks all the boxes — knows the system, can coach the QB, has a relationship with (Mac) Jones, is not an outsider — and has probably learned a few new-age tricks in the college game,” Bedard wrote. “Last I heard, and this can change as quickly as the Patriots’ policy on commenting on contracts, he was not gung-ho about this gig due to the lack in clarity about the setup. If Belichick told O’Brien he had autonomy, including over assistants, that might make it more attractive.”

Whether Belichick would be willing to give O’Brien the power he reportedly wants is something only he knows. That said, Thursday night’s unprecedented statement released by the Patriots suggests team owner Robert Kraft might be pulling rank after yet another disappointing season in New England.

If Kraft wants O’Brien, and all it will take for a reunion is to give O’Brien some control over his staff, there might not be anything that Belichick can do about it. That’s just pure speculation, though.

Thankfully, this week should provide plenty of news on one of the more fascinating Patriots storylines in recent memory.
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
1986 posts
Posted on 1/16/23 at 11:43 am to
Bob even dreaming he should have multiple options is laughable.
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