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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:13 am to bamatide07
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:13 am to bamatide07
This was easily solvable. I tell these gentlemen this is the real world. They are now being paid to perform .I am the boss and i control playing time and the purse strings.
You sit down on me I'll sit you down I'll shut off your NIL..I'll play walk ons if I have to and believe me with the history of this program the fan base will support me if they find out why and they will.
Not only that, continue and I will run you off. When asked why, it won't be any different than any employer would do when asked by another prospective employer about you by another school....or the NFL.
Let me ask you all and I believe this man would know how to handle the situation....What would Gene Stallings do?
You sit down on me I'll sit you down I'll shut off your NIL..I'll play walk ons if I have to and believe me with the history of this program the fan base will support me if they find out why and they will.
Not only that, continue and I will run you off. When asked why, it won't be any different than any employer would do when asked by another prospective employer about you by another school....or the NFL.
Let me ask you all and I believe this man would know how to handle the situation....What would Gene Stallings do?
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:15 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
There is no F body on the planet that is going to coach up Milroe.
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:16 am to antibarner
Does the head coach actually control the purse strings in this new environment? Serious question.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:19 am to InkStainedWretch
If he doesn't he SHOULD. I wouldn't take the job unless I called the shots.
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:21 am to antibarner
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This was easily solvable. I tell these gentlemen this is the real world. They are now being paid to perform .I am the boss and i control playing time and the purse strings.
You sit down on me I'll sit you down I'll shut off your NIL..I'll play walk ons if I have to and believe me with the history of this program the fan base will support me if they find out why and they will.
Not only that, continue and I will run you off. When asked why, it won't be any different than any employer would do when asked by another prospective employer about you by another school....or the NFL.
"Easily solvable," not so sure.
I'll say it for the 100th time. Saban didn't do any of what you said last year either with virtually the same group of guys. And if there was ever a coach to sit every one of those dudes on the bench, it was Nick Saban.
It's clearly not as simple as it used to be to do what you're saying. I don't know what the solution is, but what we witnessed the past two years with Milroe is probably the absolute worst case possible.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:23 am to antibarner
I'm with you, but it's like I keep saying, in the new world of college football the coaches and players are essentially equal partners. I know that does not compute and will never compute with our fan base, but it is what it is.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:23 am to antibarner
This is the problem we are now dealing with in the NIL world. This is a holy mess. Whatever Kirby Smart is doing at Georgia is a good blueprint. They are paying players but their culture doesn’t allow for the players to control the program. He’s the law. Not the players. Of course I doubt that he would recruit a player like Jalen Milroe either.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:26 am to Marktastic86
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Doesn't sound like it was his choice. I've said it a lot, but Saban didn't bench Milroe either. I know he didn't play in the USF game last year, but it didn't really feel like a true benching. Hard to judge Simpson on that game when defenders are running unblocked at him, and playing in a monsoon to top it all off.
Not saying Ty is some magic fix for the offense, but for him to not even be offered a shot given how poorly Milroe played this year is a travesty.
Somehow Jalen was able to handcuff two different coaching staffs to him, and knew no matter much he stunk it up, the job would not actually be taken away from him.
The dude can't be gone soon enough. Him drawing out his announcement is brutal.
I wouldn't worry about that part man. Yea Alabama ain't paying that motherfricker to come back.
The lesson learned in all this though is that in hindsight, it would've been far better to let him and his fellow shitheads walk than keep around for all this bullshite.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:26 am to Sauron
You are telling me that players who dream of playing in the NFL would tank their own performance to keep their preferred qb as the starter? I call BS. Poor qb play makes all other positions on offense look bad…O line, receivers, RBs, etc.
Greg McElroys main job is to attract listeners. Listeners like gossip and controversy. We should not fall for it.
Greg McElroys main job is to attract listeners. Listeners like gossip and controversy. We should not fall for it.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:30 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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I really think this is all conjecture, but I'm serious as a heart attack when I say if this was a real concern, that linemen would intentionally not do their job based on who's at quarterback, then every last one of them should be asked to leave. This isn't middle school football. College football is a business and they work for one of the biggest companies in the business and are all being paid well to do so. There is no place for middle school drama in a man's game now.
Absolutely spot on.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:31 am to Oreo Speedwagon
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You are telling me that players who dream of playing in the NFL would tank their own performance to keep their preferred qb as the starter? I call BS. Poor qb play makes all other positions on offense look bad…O line, receivers, RBs, etc.
Greg McElroys main job is to attract listeners. Listeners like gossip and controversy. We should not fall for it.
There's an explanation for all this shite somewhere and one day, it'll come to light. Until then, I'll file your take under not bad.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:32 am to Pandy Fackler
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I wouldn't worry about that part man. Yea Alabama ain't paying that motherfricker to come back.
I don't think there's much likelihood that he comes back, but you can never discount the capacity for wealthy people to be fricking morons. Especially the ones who inherited their money. All it takes is one rich booster who knows frick all about football but jerks it to 4th and 31 to offer him money to come back, and suddenly we have a circus on our hands.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:33 am to Oreo Speedwagon
You will never run a successful anything going the appeasement route.
Kalen is going to have to decide who he is 1st and stick with it. You have to have discipline and accountability. Talent is big but character is as well. Nick did a poor job toward the end of a balance between the two and it shows.
Bama needs a upgrade in IQ as well.
There is nobody on that OL this year nor last that is worth the trouble.
None.
Kalen is going to have to decide who he is 1st and stick with it. You have to have discipline and accountability. Talent is big but character is as well. Nick did a poor job toward the end of a balance between the two and it shows.
Bama needs a upgrade in IQ as well.
There is nobody on that OL this year nor last that is worth the trouble.
None.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:38 am to bamatide07
None of us knows for sure, but I'd wager while he's still got strong control Kirby isn't as large and is charge as people think except on there because some of his players have been kind of "out there." And it's been pointed out that he looks like all this is kind of wearing on him. IMO nobody will ever coach as long as Saban did in college football anymore. Life's too short.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:40 am to bamatide07
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Whatever Kirby Smart is doing at Georgia is a good blueprint. They are paying players but their culture doesn’t allow for the players to control the program. He’s the law. Not the players.
I can't agree with that, with the culture of reckless driving and no consequences.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:42 am to Robot Santa
Him returning would be the absolute worst thing to happen to the program. We would see mass transfers including Ryan Williams and Mbakwe. The fans would also not come to watch such a terrible product on the field. There is literally no way he returns after the way this season ended.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:42 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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I really think this is all conjecture, but I'm serious as a heart attack when I say if this was a real concern, that linemen would intentionally not do their job based on who's at quarterback, then every last one of them should be asked to leave.
Which, if true, is something Saban should have taken care of and he neglected it. New guy can't come in and run a coup, but Saban absolutely could have done anything he wanted.
Many saw exactly what was coming this season
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:44 am to Marktastic86
Agreed but he wins a lot and that is what matters. Sadly, the bottom line is all that people care about. The bottom line is, they’re in the playoff and we aren’t. Unfortunately.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:44 am to Sauron
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Jalen played a big role in keeping much of the team together when Saban retired, and there was a strong sense of loyalty to him based on that.
I get the feeling this is the biggest factor in why Milroe was the starter this season and why DeBoer stuck with him. Loyalty is also probably the reason why Malachi wasn’t suspended after his tantrum at the end of the Vandy game. Those guys helped hold the team together during the coaching transition. For better or worse, DeBoer felt obligated to reward them for that.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:44 am to Funky Tide 8
I think this Jr and Sr. class were really close. They felt like they went through a great deal, with the CNS retiring, and players leaving, and them keeping it together. Band of brothers type of deal.
Moving forward, many of those players are going to be gone. This Fr class, and incoming Fr class have loyalty to CKD, along with his transfers. That makes a huge difference.
Looking forward to next year. If he can do what Oats has done for MBB then watch out.
Moving forward, many of those players are going to be gone. This Fr class, and incoming Fr class have loyalty to CKD, along with his transfers. That makes a huge difference.
Looking forward to next year. If he can do what Oats has done for MBB then watch out.
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