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End Season Passing Comparison (2025 v 2024)
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:59 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:59 am
Simpson 2025 QBR
LSU: 83
OU: 68
EIL: 46
AU: 76
UGA: 19
AVG: 57
Milroe 2024 QBR
LSU: 99
OU: 28
ME: 91
UM: 14
AU: 97
AVG: 63
The competition was similar.
The OL was basically the same outside of Booker.
The skill guys were basically the same.
It was very clear before the end of that season that Milroe needed to be benched if other options were available.
If we were willing to acknowledge that Milroe should’ve been benched last year, I don’t see how it’s not fair to make that same assessment this year on Ty if we’re being objective based on data, outcomes and obvious injury/capability issues.
LSU: 83
OU: 68
EIL: 46
AU: 76
UGA: 19
AVG: 57
Milroe 2024 QBR
LSU: 99
OU: 28
ME: 91
UM: 14
AU: 97
AVG: 63
The competition was similar.
The OL was basically the same outside of Booker.
The skill guys were basically the same.
It was very clear before the end of that season that Milroe needed to be benched if other options were available.
If we were willing to acknowledge that Milroe should’ve been benched last year, I don’t see how it’s not fair to make that same assessment this year on Ty if we’re being objective based on data, outcomes and obvious injury/capability issues.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:03 am to tide06
There’s only one guy that can make that decision… and based on what we’ve seen it’s Ty ‘till we die… just need to get used to it…
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:13 am to tide06
The very simple question.
What is the QBR formula?
I’ll wait
What is the QBR formula?
I’ll wait
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:22 am to UhOhOreo
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The very simple question.
What is the QBR formula?
I’ll wait
That's a trick question.. The limit does not exist. LOL
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 9:25 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:34 am to bamabonners
I just don’t get what it would hurt to let Mack or Russell get a series or two when Ty is stinking it up like last night. Maybe, just maybe it sparks the team and we move the ball. Or maybe it doesn’t and we go 3 and out but Ty would have done the same, so after 6 games of watching Ty wilt under pressure, why not give him a chance to clear his head, watch from the sidelines and maybe calm down and collect himself. I don’t want to hear QB controversy; Ty has had plenty of time to cement himself as the starter. If he has regressed to the point of considering changing, that’s on him, not the coaches so everyone should be OK with it.
We’re not doing ourselves any favors by sticking with a sinking ship. He’s had ample time to get right and by get right, I mean adjust to the reality that teams are gunning for him and until he makes them pay a price for it, they will keep coming and your OL and RB aren’t going to do much to help you. He has stopped scrambling effectively which isn’t helping either so it’s time to try something different.
We’re not doing ourselves any favors by sticking with a sinking ship. He’s had ample time to get right and by get right, I mean adjust to the reality that teams are gunning for him and until he makes them pay a price for it, they will keep coming and your OL and RB aren’t going to do much to help you. He has stopped scrambling effectively which isn’t helping either so it’s time to try something different.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:37 am to phil4bama
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just don’t get what it would hurt to let Mack or Russell get a series or two when Ty is stinking it up like last night. Maybe, just maybe it sparks the team and we move the ball. Or maybe it doesn’t and we go 3 and out but Ty would have done the same
This, to me, has been the most frustrating part of the KDB era.
Hell, KDB even switched kickers in the EIU game to essentially show all the fans that Talty is the best we’ve got.
This staff will rotate at literally EVERY position except QB and it’s more infuriating than any of the stupid trick plays or tight formations that Grubb runs or the safety blitzes Kane runs.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:38 am to phil4bama
Because you’re assuming Keelon can handle 18 pressures as well or make the line checks to limit pressures in the first place
The mystery box could be anything, it could even be Ty Simpson.
The mystery box could be anything, it could even be Ty Simpson.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:41 am to UhOhOreo
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Because you’re assuming Keelon can handle 18 pressures as well or make the line checks to limit pressures in the first place
We’ll never know because KDB won’t give him a series. THAT’S the complaint.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:49 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
It's crazy our offense is so QB centric, yet they won't even try another one just to see if it works. Not even for one play to run the ball just to change things up.
Look at Trinidad Chambliss - he didn't win the job during fall camp, but now he's doing AT&T commercials during the games.
Look at Trinidad Chambliss - he didn't win the job during fall camp, but now he's doing AT&T commercials during the games.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:56 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Hell, KDB even switched kickers in the EIU game to essentially show all the fans that Talty is the best we’ve got.
EIU was the key word here.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:01 am to ghoast
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just need to get used to it…
No, we don’t. We’re not Tenn or AU. Blatant incompetence should not be accepted.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:05 am to UhOhOreo
ESPN.com QBR
That’s about 30 pages of explanation as to the criteria.
Bottom line it’s an advanced metric used to evaluate QBs using stats beyond yards/tds/ints and has been used for college and NFL since 2011.
I’m not arguing it’s the best, but it’s publicly available for everyone to see at a game level and is reasonably respected.
But if your real intent is to question the conclusion by proposing another possible metric to use (which is entirely fair) I’ll just say you can use QB Rating or the PFF metrics which allude to the same conclusion using different numbers and criteria.
I dont have access to all of the paywall stuff going back to last year so if you want to pull them at a game by game level to benchmark I’d be interested to see it for Milroe.
Bottom line is QB play collapsed this year the same way it did down the stretch last year, possibly even worse because we can’t even build around the QB run as a core strength. We couldn’t get the ball to our skill players, many of whom also ended up hurt (Cuevas, Bernard, RW) and so our one major competitive advantage fell apart.
It can be seen in our YPA by game, our completion % and total yardage declines.
Here’s an example for Comp% before I have to run:
UW: 83%
@UGA: 63%
VU: 74%
@MIZ: 74%
AVG: 73%
LSU: 60%
OU: 66%
@AU: 54%
UGA: 48%
AVG: 57%
Hell just comparing the two games against UGA tells the tale:
comp%: 48% vs 63% (-15%)
Pass Yards: 212 vs 272 (-60yards)
YPA: 5.4YPA from 7.25
rating: 97 vs 147 (-50!)
QBR: 14.5 vs 91
That’s about 30 pages of explanation as to the criteria.
Bottom line it’s an advanced metric used to evaluate QBs using stats beyond yards/tds/ints and has been used for college and NFL since 2011.
I’m not arguing it’s the best, but it’s publicly available for everyone to see at a game level and is reasonably respected.
But if your real intent is to question the conclusion by proposing another possible metric to use (which is entirely fair) I’ll just say you can use QB Rating or the PFF metrics which allude to the same conclusion using different numbers and criteria.
I dont have access to all of the paywall stuff going back to last year so if you want to pull them at a game by game level to benchmark I’d be interested to see it for Milroe.
Bottom line is QB play collapsed this year the same way it did down the stretch last year, possibly even worse because we can’t even build around the QB run as a core strength. We couldn’t get the ball to our skill players, many of whom also ended up hurt (Cuevas, Bernard, RW) and so our one major competitive advantage fell apart.
It can be seen in our YPA by game, our completion % and total yardage declines.
Here’s an example for Comp% before I have to run:
UW: 83%
@UGA: 63%
VU: 74%
@MIZ: 74%
AVG: 73%
LSU: 60%
OU: 66%
@AU: 54%
UGA: 48%
AVG: 57%
Hell just comparing the two games against UGA tells the tale:
comp%: 48% vs 63% (-15%)
Pass Yards: 212 vs 272 (-60yards)
YPA: 5.4YPA from 7.25
rating: 97 vs 147 (-50!)
QBR: 14.5 vs 91
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 10:09 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:07 am to tide06
My point is QBR has never made its formula public. This a formula that once had Charlie Baker’s two touchdown two interception performance the greatest of all time
No one knows what it measures or how it measures.
No one knows what it measures or how it measures.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 10:08 am
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:10 am to UhOhOreo
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My point is QBR has never made its formula public. This a formula that once had Charlie Baker’s two touchdown two interception performance the greatest of all time No one knows what it measures or how it measures.
I just sent you a 30 page overview, of course they don’t give you the algorithm it’s proprietary.
Do you have a different metric you want to use? They have QB Rating right there if you want to pull those numbers.
Spoiler alert: they’re gonna say roughly the same things using different numbers.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:28 am to UhOhOreo
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Because you’re assuming Keelon can handle 18 pressures as well or make the line checks to limit pressures in the first place
Well don’t we kind of know what that looks like right now with the current mix of OL/QB/WR?
Wouldn’t it be kind of nice to figure out what that might look like as opposed to just doing the same thing we’ve been doing while also giving us a better idea of what we’d be committing to for next year?
The schedule was so tough this year the backups never really got the snaps we would’ve liked to help them develop.
And the reality is the current mix isn’t getting us where we need and want to go so I’m not seeing a ton of harm in experimenting with a drive of two.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:31 am to tide06
The biggest difference is Ty was a 3rd year player last year.
Mack is a second year guy who has seen basically no snaps, and Keelon is a true freshman.
It was a bit more understandable for this year. That being said if all the games are going to be this close, then I am not sure how you get more snaps for the backups.
Keelon looking like he will getting the starting job with basically no snaps under his belt. But at least he will get the bulk next year assuming
Mack is a second year guy who has seen basically no snaps, and Keelon is a true freshman.
It was a bit more understandable for this year. That being said if all the games are going to be this close, then I am not sure how you get more snaps for the backups.
Keelon looking like he will getting the starting job with basically no snaps under his belt. But at least he will get the bulk next year assuming
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:38 am to UltimaParadox
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The biggest difference is Ty was a 3rd year player last year.
With virtually no game experience because we play tough SEC schedules and couldn’t put away mediocre teams due to offensive limitations.
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It was a bit more understandable for this year. That being said if all the games are going to be this close, then I am not sure how you get more snaps for the backups.
Only way to do it is to play easy schedules and operate the offense effectively enough to close out the teams you should early. We kill clock and do just enough offensively to win so until that improves we won’t see the backups.
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Keelon looking like he will getting the starting job with basically no snaps under his belt. But at least he will get the bulk next year assuming
Id just love to see how he responds given an opportunity because I’m not sure there’s a huge opportunity cost to giving someone else a shot right now when we’re looking at failed drive after failed drive and have to decide how to allocate NIL money for next year very soon.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 11:11 am to BamaBravesPackers
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Blatant incompetence should not be accepted.
Calm your tits… I agree, and I never said that… however, what in Holy Hell makes you think KDB is gonna make a change now? He could have made a Milroe change last year and he damn sure could have already made a Ty change, unless something drastic happens he’s not… that’s all I’m saying. Of course we’re not Tenn or AU, that’s foolish…
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