re: Ecstatic Bama won, but I still think DeBoer = Mark Richt

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I’m going to say something that is going to get me downvoted to oblivion, and there’s no way I can say it without someone taking me wrong, so I’m just going to go ahead and say it. This program is never going to move forward until the memories of how Nicholas Lou Saban did things … and I’m not talking about his commitment to detail and excellence, those should be eternal, I am talking about stuff like his demeanor, etc., during practice and games … dissipates. We cannot afford to spend 40 years waiting perpetually for someone out of the Saban tree like we did waiting for someone out of the Bryant tree. There’s an element of our fan base who thought then and think now that will fix everything, but I thought then and think now that attitude reduces football to a cult of personality level and won’t work in this new era.

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We were already in trouble when fans starting comparing the early Saban years to his last couple of teams, when the talk was all about penalties and “anxiety.”

People need to realize that every great coach has their own style and there isn’t a blueprint to winning it all and at the level Saban did, or else everyone would try the same thing. Of course we’ve wanted better since the retirement but there were cracks in the foundation even before that moment and I think the program is headed in a positive direction.

Again it’s the eyes. Those are not the eyes of a soft man. I would not want to be on DeBoer’s bad side. Saban’s tough but he’d spew or sputter for a while in a bar fight before he got down to business. I think DeBoer would go directly to punching without passing Go. And no that doesn’t transfer directly to coaching athletes LOL.

Thanks for the reminder, I hadn’t.

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you called someone who doesn’t - "a clown?"

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That's the problem on this board - people hate differing perspectives - whether informed or uninformed. And there is a certain element on this board that will scream "TROLL!" at those who disagree with them and all his faithful female followers dutifully follow by raining down a cascade of down-votes. It is funny - and it is sad at the same time

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Hit a sore spot I see

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Nope. I just respect the women in my life and wouldn't use them as an example of the type of people who mindlessly follow someone without using their own brains. Maybe try lemmings or sheep next time.

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sheep

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Pastor

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Not a bad connection seeing we are in the season of celebrating the arrival of the Good Shepherd, Lamb of God, etc. Using sheep to describe humans that need rescuing/guidance (hint: that’s all of us) is a pretty old tradition.


Edit: Think the Pastor was referring to the examples of cults that have happened with a male leader and lots of female followers. There have been other demographics of cults, but the one he mentioned is generally viewed as the “classic cult” when making jokes. Don’t think he was purposefully trying to put down females.

I think you're a clown for comparing yourself and other middle school coaches to CKD. You are the poster child for the travel ball coach whom every adult with half a brain thinks is a freaking loser. I hate to break it to you but Braxxton and Jaxxson aren't going D1 from you taking middle school sports was too damn serious.

Imagine being in the playoffs after playing the toughest schedule in the nation, and still feeling this bad about your team (assuming you are a legit fan and not a troll).

Bama just went on the road in the playoffs, got down 17 against a team that has given you trouble in prior meetings, and still had enough character as a team to pull it together and get a double digit win.

And you think "what does DeBoer bring to the table?" is a legitimate question?

Also, two of the top programs in the country have basically given him blank checks to coach their football programs. Considering that, and where the team currently is in year 2 should be enough for you to think twice about posting this garbage. Shoot, if you thought once you wouldn't have posted it.

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comparing middle school coaches to CKD.

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Since my action to indicate that I’ve known middle school coaches that were more detail oriented than DeBoer has sparked such winning behavior from you and you’ve set me straight, let’s see if you can “learn me” some football while you’re humbly and gracefully passing out wisdom.

Since you clearly think our coach makes good situational awareness decisions, it should be really easy to find other examples of coaches that made the same mistakes as ours since he’s that good at them. There’s over 600 specific times a P4 team played a game this year. Surely you can find 3-4 other examples of just the recent mistakes listed below that our coach has made (this is just the last 2 games).

1) dropping back to pass from inside your own 5yd line with 15 or fewer seconds left in the first half in a game that isn’t yet out of hand (or say within 20 seconds left…to give you an extra play to increase the sample size)

2) punting up 2 scores with under 5 minutes and a running clock and snapping it with greater than 15 seconds left (we snapped it at 18).

This should be really easy to find several other examples of coaches doing the same thing if these are common mistakes coaches make. Feel free to use AI (and I’ll accept 4-5 examples of each mistake using all of FBS which is over 1300 samples this year). What can I say, if I’m wrong, I’ll admit I’m wrong.