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re: Does anybody still think Bryce Young may win the job and start versus USC?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:10 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:10 pm to RollTide1987
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Mac Jones impressed in the starts he made, those two pick sixes against Auburn aside
I think if you reverse the AU Int TD return meant for Harris.It would have really sealed the game for us and got us in the playoff.
Then its a hug win for Mac just like Jalen's game against Ole Miss were he got crushed but got up and lead us to a win.
Considering it was at AU I will say Mac came to play and showed he got what it takes.
I think he gets the start anyway just based on experience alone.But he's gonna have to ball out because young like Tua is the real deal.
I liked what Mac showed as the stage was not to big and he was prepared.
Truth be told Harris went the wrong way on a perfect call when 70 sealed the corner and Devante got on the safety,
Harris could have walked in from 8yds out.
Which would have not put it in the kickers hands.
Based on the time Mac got this past yr he played well enough to earn this upcoming start.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 2:19 pm
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:11 pm to Commander Data
I see Bryce getting all the garbage time reps and starting next year.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:35 pm to UhOhOreo
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I see Bryce getting all the garbage time reps and starting next year.
Yeah, no way Young redshirts regardless.
Who else would be in there, Paul Tyson?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:57 pm to Evolved Simian
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Convinced by what, though?
Convinced by Bryce losing valuable live reps with the ones and twos in live action. Learning the playbook. Building comradre with his teammates is just as important at his position. Spring practice was a big part of whether or not he had a possibility of starting game one.
Now anything is possible. Bryce may show up to fall camp and blow Mac away but I just don't see it happening. I would love if if it does though.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 5:36 pm to Commander Data
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Saban can be benching upperclassmen in favor of better guys that just showed up.
You’re missing several key factors here.
1. Saban operates by the rule “once a starter, always a starter” He feels bad about taking guy’s jobs away. He even admitted to this sense of loyalty during the Jalen/Tua situation.
2. Mac Jones has at no point cemented himself as a starter. At no point has he officially won the starting job. He played last season as the backup QB. The competition is just as open as it was the year Jalen won the job.
3. Bryce Young is the better QB of the two. He also offers a key mobility factor, and gives us a true dual-threat - which Saban has always loved. The ONLY reason he wouldn’t start is if he’s behind in terms of knowledge, but he has been devouring the playbook all offseason and all quarantine, and actually running the Alabama offense with NFL players. There’s a real chance that Bryce Young has been outworking, and outpreparing Mac Jones all year.
4. The most important point. Saban wants Bryce Young to be the starter. He knows BY is the more talented QB, and he’s going to be looking for reasons to hand him the keys rather than the other way around. He loves this kid. Saban knows what the landscape is like today, and knows how much of a team’s success hinges on having an elite QB.
Bryce Young will be the second true freshman QB to start for CNS.
What I will say, is that I think the USC game could be a split-time scenario as we’ve seen him do in the past, but at the latest, Bryce will start by game 2.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 5:47 pm to AjA77
The Auburn game is a perfect example of why Mac Jones SHOULDNT be the starter.
I’m sorry but how is losing to a vastly inferior Auburn team on the back of two pick 6s, with 4 first round WRs somehow an impressive showing for a QB?
Maybe it was impressive for a backup performance, but would any of you be happy if that was our starting QB, losing to Auburn like that, and missing the playoffs?
Hell no.
Mac Jones was barely able to beat Michigan, and had us biting our nails well into the second half. That’s unacceptable considering our talent level.
Again, people are giving credit to Mac for his performance as a backup, and not looking at it as if he was our starter, and holding him to that standard.
Could Mac Jones even get us to the playoffs? Could Mac Jones even beat Auburn this year?
Our goal should be NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Does anyone in their right mind think Mac Jones is capable of that? I mean maybe if our 2016 defense comes running onto the field, but that’s not happening
I’m sorry but how is losing to a vastly inferior Auburn team on the back of two pick 6s, with 4 first round WRs somehow an impressive showing for a QB?
Maybe it was impressive for a backup performance, but would any of you be happy if that was our starting QB, losing to Auburn like that, and missing the playoffs?
Hell no.
Mac Jones was barely able to beat Michigan, and had us biting our nails well into the second half. That’s unacceptable considering our talent level.
Again, people are giving credit to Mac for his performance as a backup, and not looking at it as if he was our starter, and holding him to that standard.
Could Mac Jones even get us to the playoffs? Could Mac Jones even beat Auburn this year?
Our goal should be NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Does anyone in their right mind think Mac Jones is capable of that? I mean maybe if our 2016 defense comes running onto the field, but that’s not happening
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:37 pm to uofarolltide
Mac Jones has the opportunity to be a high level SEC QB, especially given the talent he will be working with.
Problem for him is that Bryce Young has the opportunity to be better than Tua. Watch his film and tell me I’m wrong. He’s also Sarks guy which matters.
Mac will start and look good against USC with Young getting snaps.
I think he hits a wall against UGA playing what will be the best D he faces all year. I don’t think Bryce will be ready at that point, but if we struggle or lose to UGA we will have a full blown QB controversy for sure.
Problem for him is that Bryce Young has the opportunity to be better than Tua. Watch his film and tell me I’m wrong. He’s also Sarks guy which matters.
Mac will start and look good against USC with Young getting snaps.
I think he hits a wall against UGA playing what will be the best D he faces all year. I don’t think Bryce will be ready at that point, but if we struggle or lose to UGA we will have a full blown QB controversy for sure.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 7:56 pm to tide06
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Mac Jones has the opportunity to be a high level SEC QB
If by “high level” you mean 4th or 5th best in the conference, then sure.
He got outplayed by Auburn’s QB last year.
I can’t for the life of me understand where this Mac obsession stems from.
Would you take Mac Jones next season, or freshman Jalen Hurts?
I actually think freshman Jalen could take us farther.
Fortunately for us though, B Young looks to be much better than freshman Jalen Hurts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:15 pm to uofarolltide
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Would you take Mac Jones next season, or freshman Jalen Hurts?
Mac
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:53 pm to uofarolltide
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I can’t for the life of me understand where this Mac obsession stems from.
Mac obsession? I think you missed the point of my post.
If you were picking QBs in the SEC to win games in 2020 he’d be top 3 at worst.
Trask, Jones and maybe the transfer from Wake? Who else is there? Costello? Mond?
Jones has a skill set somewhere between McElroy and McCarron and those two won a lot of football games.
Im as big of a Bryce Young fan as you’ll find, but even if he is Tua level from a talent standpoint he would struggle massively against UGA due to a lack of experience.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 10:42 pm to tide06
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Im as big of a Bryce Young fan as you’ll find, but even if he is Tua level from a talent standpoint he would struggle massively against UGA due to a lack of experience.
Um, considering Tua jumped in against UGA with no experience, and slaughtered them, I’m not sure your statement holds water.
And it’s not like Mac Jones has tons of experience.
Bryce Young could potentially have two games under his belt going into UGA. That’s how much experience Mac Jones has.
We need to put our best talent on the field. If Bryce Young is a better, more consistent passer, he should start. Period.
Look, i think all of this debate is pointless. I think Saban already has Bryce Young in mind, I think he’ll win the job, and while everyone might be shocked, I think once you see him on the field, it’ll be pretty obvious
Posted on 5/29/20 at 5:49 am to uofarolltide
We still talking about someone that has only played against high schoolers?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 6:06 am to uofarolltide
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Um, considering Tua jumped in against UGA with no experience, and slaughtered them, I’m not sure your statement holds water.
Tua also had a full spring, an entire season of practices and a decent amount of live game action, and bowl prep under his belt at that point. Bryce will still essentially be a high school senior when we play UGA.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 6:07 am
Posted on 5/29/20 at 6:08 am to tide06
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Jones has a skill set somewhere between McElroy and McCarron and those two won a lot of football games.
I agree, but I think he's a lot closer to AJ than Greg. Mac has a good arm.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 7:10 am to Robot Santa
Bryce Young will take over in the 2nd half of the UGA game after an atrocious first half by Mac. Young leads us to victory in OT when on 2nd and 26, he stares down Devonta streaking down the left hash, causing the safety to bite hard. Young then coolly pivots right and fires it to Waddle running a skinny post who is wide open for the TD. Kirby Smart throws a temper tantrum on the sidelines and has to be escorted out by security.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 9:05 am to uofarolltide
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Um, considering Tua jumped in against UGA with no experience, and slaughtered them, I’m not sure your statement holds water.
I understand your perspective, but consider this:
-Tua was an early enrollee, Young wasn’t due to COVID.
-Tua had a full spring camp to establish himself, Young didn’t get a single snap.
-Tua had a full fall camp to adjust, who knows what Young will get.
-Tua played heavy minutes throughout the season including practicing for a full season with film review and coaching, plus getting semi final and championship practices before stepping in against UGA. Bryce Young would be asked to step in day one and play two top 25 teams in his first three weeks.
-2020 UGA (week 3) on paper has the best defense in the country. Kirby would be sending looks and blitzes that Bryce has never dreamed of. Pretty much every starter will see time in the NFL and Bryce will still be learning to adjust to regular college defensive reads. That is a hell of a lot to ask of an 18 year old 3 weeks in.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 10:22 am to uofarolltide
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Um, considering Tua jumped in against UGA with no experience, and slaughtered them, I’m not sure your statement holds water.
Tua definitely gave us a shot in the arm that game, but let's not act like the kid threw for 400 yards. He was 14-24 for 166 yards, 3 TDs and 1 INT. The defense stepping up big in the second half is what really turned that game around in our favor.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 10:23 am to Commander Data
Without spring practice? No chance.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 10:38 am to imjustafatkid
I think this is starting to turn into some fans just wanting Bryce to start, no matter what!!
Posted on 5/29/20 at 11:11 am to uofarolltide
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And it’s not like Mac Jones has tons of experience.
Bryce Young could potentially have two games under his belt going into UGA.
Compared to Young, Mac does have a lot more experience. In addition to playing essentially 3 games prior to the IB, he also played in a very hostile environment and a bowl game versus a decent defense.
He also has 3 years to learn the system and 3 years of practice reps. That’s a massive difference. Especially now when Young doesn’t have spring practice.
Funny you asked earlier what has Mac shown. What has Young shown? Nothing, yet you’re so certain he’ll be the starter over Mac game 1.
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