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re: Did anyone else find Byrne’s comments yesterday off-putting?

Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:28 am to
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:28 am to
Where does our TV money go to?
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34605 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:31 am to
I think the schools in the conferences that have a tv deal with a network like the SEC now with ESPN/ABC

Same thing with B1G and CBS
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19180 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:32 am to
Let that school make that deal. I want to money ball this isht. One great qb, with great OL and wrs, value everywhere else.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:34 am to
Makes sense. Vanderbilt University was founded bc an Alabama native named Fran persuaded her much older husband Cornelius to fund the school after the civil war.
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:39 am to
Yup. Frances Vanderbilt


The Yea Alabama NIL brand should be restructured. Does anything from sports apparel sales go to it?
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:41 am to
Fund raising is constant and never stops, don't be ignorant.

ETA:
We recently held an alumni reunion and paid for 99.9% of it out of department funds. During the tailgate to close the week, I was approached by a guy from our group and he said "We need to do this every year." my reply was simple, "We can't afford to do it every year.' He seemed taken aback and responded with "There's a bunch of folks here who can afford it." He pointed around to indicate someone other than him.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 8:46 am
Posted by bamaphan13
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:44 am to
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Does anything from sports apparel sales go to it?


Yea Alabama sell their own apparel on the website.

If you notice the "official" store at Athletic dept. website still goes to Fanatics. They are not giving up that revenue.

This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 8:45 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17881 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:44 am to
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It's not about them getting paid. It's about whose wallet their salary comes out of.


Fundraising has always been a thing before players were being paid
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17881 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:47 am to
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They can get their cut if they want it, but I’m not going to be the one to give it to them. I’ll chose to give my money to more important things


I'm confused, has anyone put a gun to your head or threatened your family for your money or donation?

Fundraising has always occurred even when players weren't getting paid and coaches were driving up their pay from a million to 10 million.
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34605 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:47 am to
Absolutely. This is the same thing with donating to colleges on campus
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:50 am to
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Does anything from sports apparel sales go to it?


All athletic gear sold with a name in the Supestore system gives the players a cut.
Posted by Oreo Speedwagon
Member since Nov 2024
53 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:54 am to
No I didn’t. Alabama is behind several SEC schools in regards to NIL contributions. College football is now “pay for play” and there is no salary cap in place. The team with the biggest budget will most likely get the best players. This totally sucks but it is the current situation we are in until someone fixes the current broken system that has been created.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
958 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:56 am to
What ticks me off is the NCAA fought the NIL battle for literally years in the courts yet knew all along they were going to lose eventually.

Did it ever occur to them to maybe have a plan in place when they eventually lost? Apparently not and they STILL have no plan how regulate this chaos.

Freaking geniuses.
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34605 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:58 am to
This might end up having a CBA done by the NCAA and the student athletes
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:59 am to
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Fundraising has always been a thing before players were being paid


Yeah, and? I'm fine donating money to help cover the cost of scholarships, buy new weightlifting equipment, update some team's practice facility, add a position to the medical staff, or any number of other things of that nature. What I'm not fine with is giving money to a booster collective so they can give it to a freshman on the football team who uses it to buy a Rolex, does frick all during the season, and then hits the portal for another payday.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3669 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:01 am to
The reason this has all blown up is that for decades ... long before Coach Bryant even ... so much of the core of our fan base has been common, everyday people who have had their love for the Tide passed down through the generations of their families. People who in bad times could barely afford a cap with an "A" on it, let alone buy even the cheapest ticket to a ball game back when tickets were cheap, but by God they were sitting on their front porch with a transistor radio listening to Forney and Layton or Eli and Snake and cheering and screaming and cussing.

They feel like they've been cast aside and rendered irrelevant by people ... not just the players, but universities and coaches and TV people and assorted other hawgs feeding at the trough ... who more than anything are chasing the almighty dollar and really don't "care" as much as the fans I described do.

That being said, IMO Byrne was basically, and very clumsily, just trying to deal with the landscape as it is, not the way people would like it to be, and do the best he can to keep Alabama relevant and competitive in this new world.

Those of you who are advocating blowing everything up and taking a stand for all that used to be good and righteous about college football, I respect that stance.

Tell me honestly though ... will you maintain that stance when we're stringing 5-7's together, and changing coaches doesn't fix it, and the people who are dealing with the landscape as it is are playing for the big trophy?
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:02 am to
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Fundraising has always been a thing before players were being paid



Yes, but not at this level and not this regularly. This isn't really comparable to funding a new venue or anything, where you're set for 25 years. Asking for a comparable amount of money for a single season (and you don't even get your name on it) is not something I see as sustainable long term and that goes for everyone, not just Alabama.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
21754 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:12 am to
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so much of the core of our fan base has been common


I honestly feel like a lot of this is due to how the state system is split all over the place. We gave Auburn all of the innovative sciences and then gave away our medical school when we totally didn't have to. We have a lot of money in law and business, but we don't have the concentration of talent advantage that a lot of top football programs do (Ohio State, Georgia, Penn State, etc.)
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19180 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:22 am to
That needs to change as well. At this point, the future of education will be shaped by internet and virtual reality. No reason why schools can't pool resources together and provide quality education with that economies of scale.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 10:20 am
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19808 posts
Posted on 12/19/24 at 9:24 am to
It felt sad and weak, like this moment.



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