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Posted on 1/27/21 at 3:16 pm to Alfie Solomons
Posted on 1/27/21 at 3:16 pm to Alfie Solomons
Probably ILB Coach.
Coaching CJ Mosley again
Coaching CJ Mosley again
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 3:19 pm to Panthers4life
LINK ]Report: Jeremy Pruitt to join New York Jets coaching staff (247)
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 3:30 pm to Panthers4life
Meh want he is saying about his time with the Pats isn't accurate unless I misread it. O'Brien was the OC in 2011 when they lost to the Giants in Super Bowl and he says he wasn't. Yes they did not lead the league in pts per game the year he was OC they were third.
Pat's PPG:
2010: 32.4
2011: 32.1 O'Brien OC
2012: 34.8
Not that big of a difference. He also won a bunch of games with Oswielier, Hoyer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Mallet, Case Keenum, TJ Yates, Tom Savage and Brandon Weeden. He also went to the playoffs twice with Deahaun Watson.
Not saying you shouldn't question Bill but this seems to be an overreaction.
Pat's PPG:
2010: 32.4
2011: 32.1 O'Brien OC
2012: 34.8
Not that big of a difference. He also won a bunch of games with Oswielier, Hoyer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Mallet, Case Keenum, TJ Yates, Tom Savage and Brandon Weeden. He also went to the playoffs twice with Deahaun Watson.
Not saying you shouldn't question Bill but this seems to be an overreaction.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 4:48 pm to RollTideNL
O'Brien from a timing stand point could be in the right place at the right time. If he does well at Alabama, and hangs around several years, well, sometimes timing is everything.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 5:15 pm to TidalSurge1
Not sure how, but I feel like Saban was behind this move. Wonder if Saban made a call and got him a job. Let him get some NFL experience, avoid going to another college as an analyst, and then bring him back in a couple of years.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 5:45 pm to FWBFLlaw
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Connor Hughes @Connor_J_Hughes The #Jets are not adding Jeremy Pruitt to their coaching staff, a team source says. Not as DB coach or assistant DB coach.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 6:26 pm to CapstoneGrad06
LINK ]Former Tennessee coach Jeremy Pruitt won’t be joining the Jets coaching staff (NBC)
Posted on 1/27/21 at 6:37 pm to TidalSurge1
Bruce followed up his tweet about the Jets with Pruitt was talking to several teams including the Giants. History with Judge...maybe Saban makes a call.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:24 pm to Carlton
Alright, I'm going to address some of this from the perspective of a person who, as a young man, actively rooted for Georgia Tech football as a #2 behind Alabama due to time growing up in Atlanta.
I dunno what the fvck Melty McGee is doing talking about BoB college offenses from 20 years ago, but he's not making the points he thinks he is.
2001 Georgia Tech ranks out of 60 P5 teams
- 18th PPG
- 13th Pass YPA
- 51st Rush YPA
- 29th Yards Per Play
- 23rd Points Per Play
- 22nd Points Per Yard
- 16th Pass Attempts per Game
I'm not sure how you can say that 2001 Georgia Tech wasn't a solid offense. They threw the ball 35 times a game - at that point only 4 power 5 teams averaged throwing it more than 40 times per game (Texas Tech, Florida, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Northwestern). That team lost 3 games by 7 points, 2 of them in which they scored 44 and 38 points. The only games they scored less 24 pts were #14 Syracuse (W), #11 Maryland (L), #15 FSU (L), and #22 UGA (L).
There was nothing to dislike about that offense other than the fact that they couldn't run the ball and didn't have enough athletes outside against the most athletic defenses (UGA, FSU, 'Cuse). They ran the ball because George O'Leary ran the damn ball. O'Leary barely let Ralph Friedgen throw the ball 30 times a game, so the fact that he let a young guy like BoB do it is kind of incredible.
The next season was a disaster - it was Gailey's first season, he kept BoB around but still has his fingerprints all over the offense - an offense that did not get any better in subsequent years with some really damn good talent, I might add.
2002 Georgia Tech was replacing
- #1 QB George Godsey (3,085 pass yards, 18 TD)
- #1 RB Joe Burns (1,165 rush yards, 14 TD)
- #1 WR Kelly Campbell (708 rec yards, 3 TDs)
Their replacement for Godsey was shitty Tennessee transfer AJ Suggs who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. They ran the ball more, and better, and averaged 375 yards of offense.
2002 Georgia Tech ranks out of 60 P5 teams
- 49th PPG
- 49th Pass YPA
- 25th Rush YPA
- 42nd Yards Per Play
- 51st Points Per Play
- 54th Points Per Yard
They didn't have a QB who could play big-time college football. It tanked them.
I'm not even going to discuss 2005 Duke. Like, GTFOH with that nonsense. Here is what Duke was in the era surrounding 2005
2000 - 0-11
2001 - 0-11
2002 - 2-10
2003 - 4-8
2004 - 2-9
2005 - 1-10
2006 - 0-12
2007 - 1-11
2004 - 115th PPG
2005 - 111th PPG
2006 - 112th PPG
2007 - 115th PPG
I dunno what the fvck Melty McGee is doing talking about BoB college offenses from 20 years ago, but he's not making the points he thinks he is.
2001 Georgia Tech ranks out of 60 P5 teams
- 18th PPG
- 13th Pass YPA
- 51st Rush YPA
- 29th Yards Per Play
- 23rd Points Per Play
- 22nd Points Per Yard
- 16th Pass Attempts per Game
I'm not sure how you can say that 2001 Georgia Tech wasn't a solid offense. They threw the ball 35 times a game - at that point only 4 power 5 teams averaged throwing it more than 40 times per game (Texas Tech, Florida, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Northwestern). That team lost 3 games by 7 points, 2 of them in which they scored 44 and 38 points. The only games they scored less 24 pts were #14 Syracuse (W), #11 Maryland (L), #15 FSU (L), and #22 UGA (L).
There was nothing to dislike about that offense other than the fact that they couldn't run the ball and didn't have enough athletes outside against the most athletic defenses (UGA, FSU, 'Cuse). They ran the ball because George O'Leary ran the damn ball. O'Leary barely let Ralph Friedgen throw the ball 30 times a game, so the fact that he let a young guy like BoB do it is kind of incredible.
The next season was a disaster - it was Gailey's first season, he kept BoB around but still has his fingerprints all over the offense - an offense that did not get any better in subsequent years with some really damn good talent, I might add.
2002 Georgia Tech was replacing
- #1 QB George Godsey (3,085 pass yards, 18 TD)
- #1 RB Joe Burns (1,165 rush yards, 14 TD)
- #1 WR Kelly Campbell (708 rec yards, 3 TDs)
Their replacement for Godsey was shitty Tennessee transfer AJ Suggs who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. They ran the ball more, and better, and averaged 375 yards of offense.
2002 Georgia Tech ranks out of 60 P5 teams
- 49th PPG
- 49th Pass YPA
- 25th Rush YPA
- 42nd Yards Per Play
- 51st Points Per Play
- 54th Points Per Yard
They didn't have a QB who could play big-time college football. It tanked them.
I'm not even going to discuss 2005 Duke. Like, GTFOH with that nonsense. Here is what Duke was in the era surrounding 2005
2000 - 0-11
2001 - 0-11
2002 - 2-10
2003 - 4-8
2004 - 2-9
2005 - 1-10
2006 - 0-12
2007 - 1-11
2004 - 115th PPG
2005 - 111th PPG
2006 - 112th PPG
2007 - 115th PPG
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Part 2 -
(a) This is just patently false.
He SIGNED blue-chip offensive players at Penn State. Guys like Christian Hackenberg, Jesse James, Mike Gesicki, DaeSean Hamilton, and Chris Godwin. A few of them were highly regarded, a few of them were noted by evaluation and signed under the radar. All but Hackenberg turned into NFL starters (and Hackeberg might have if BoB hadn't left). Penn State's offensive talent when BoB arrived was a frickin laughingstock (as we saw first hand in 2010 and 2011).
As Carlton noted above, are we just going to totally ignore his time as a play-caller in the NFL?
Offensive DVOA Rankings
2009 - #1
2010 - #1
2011 - #3
Here are the best Patriots Offenses of the Belichik era ranked by Offensive DVOA
1) 2007: 44.1% (#1)
2) 2010: 42.8% (#1)
3) 2011: 32.6% (#3)
4) 2012: 31.1% (#1)
5) 2017: 27.9% (#1)
6) 2009: 26.7% (#1)
7) 2004: 24.5% (#3)
8) 2016: 21.2% (#2)
9) 2005: 18.0% (#7)
10) 2013: 16.5% (#4)
11) 2015: 15.4% (#5)
12) 2006: 14.7% (#4)
13) 2018: 14.7% (#5)
14) 2014: 13.9% (#6)
15) 2008: 12.4% (#7) (Brady ACL)
16) 2002: 7.0% (#9)
17) 2019: 4.3% (#11)
18) 2001: 3.6% (#11)
19) 2003: 1.4% (#14)
20) 2000: -4.4% (#20)
21) 2020: -7.3% (#23)
Bill O'Brien called 2 of the 3 best offenses of the entire Patriots dynasty and all 3 of his offenses are in the top 6.
"But SOG, the Patriots had great players then, of course, he was good!"
Sound like a familiar situation?
(a) This is just patently false.
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He entered a probation-saddled PSU team that was stocked with blue-chip holdovers from the Paterno era.
He SIGNED blue-chip offensive players at Penn State. Guys like Christian Hackenberg, Jesse James, Mike Gesicki, DaeSean Hamilton, and Chris Godwin. A few of them were highly regarded, a few of them were noted by evaluation and signed under the radar. All but Hackenberg turned into NFL starters (and Hackeberg might have if BoB hadn't left). Penn State's offensive talent when BoB arrived was a frickin laughingstock (as we saw first hand in 2010 and 2011).
As Carlton noted above, are we just going to totally ignore his time as a play-caller in the NFL?
Offensive DVOA Rankings
2009 - #1
2010 - #1
2011 - #3
Here are the best Patriots Offenses of the Belichik era ranked by Offensive DVOA
1) 2007: 44.1% (#1)
2) 2010: 42.8% (#1)
3) 2011: 32.6% (#3)
4) 2012: 31.1% (#1)
5) 2017: 27.9% (#1)
6) 2009: 26.7% (#1)
7) 2004: 24.5% (#3)
8) 2016: 21.2% (#2)
9) 2005: 18.0% (#7)
10) 2013: 16.5% (#4)
11) 2015: 15.4% (#5)
12) 2006: 14.7% (#4)
13) 2018: 14.7% (#5)
14) 2014: 13.9% (#6)
15) 2008: 12.4% (#7) (Brady ACL)
16) 2002: 7.0% (#9)
17) 2019: 4.3% (#11)
18) 2001: 3.6% (#11)
19) 2003: 1.4% (#14)
20) 2000: -4.4% (#20)
21) 2020: -7.3% (#23)
Bill O'Brien called 2 of the 3 best offenses of the entire Patriots dynasty and all 3 of his offenses are in the top 6.
"But SOG, the Patriots had great players then, of course, he was good!"
Sound like a familiar situation?
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
And finally, here is the actual reason for this emotional, over the top vomit fest from a guy known for these sorts of things
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5. BOB’s coziness with Bob McNair is of particular concern in 2021, and his leadership and temperament are not suited for the college game
Do I like bringing this up? Absolutely not. But in CURRENT YEAR, matters of race are inseparable from practically any facet of life. And the simple fact is, BOB was far too cozy to the vicious racist prick Bob McNair.
When speaking of McNair making a pittance donation to a school for special needs children where O’Brien’s son attended, BOB said:
"That always meant a lot to (my wife) Colleen and I," said O’Brien, who became emotional and paused several times to collect himself. "That was who he was. That was the type of stuff that he did. A good man. He was a good man."
That was not a one-off either; in every presser where McNair was brought up, BOB constantly reinforced how much McNair meant to him, what a mentor he was, what a good man he was, and how he is special and like family.
Bob McNair was no such thing as a good man, of course. He was a vicious racist with a Donald Sterling-esque string of shitty remarks about black people. Then again, maybe if you’re white, then you’re not "an inmate." And McNair’s racism trickled all the way down into the DNA of the Texans.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
T Watts just tweeted out about 10-15 minutes ago that Jay Graham is expected to be hired to coach TEs and STs.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:12 pm to Carlton
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Honestly rather have Boulware if we could get him.
It's sounding like we are getting Graham, which is fine by me. He has experience recruiting in the SEC. And while he has recruited in a bunch of different states, I'm most excited to see what he can do in the state of NC. He has recruited his fair share from NC, and I think that is a grow area that we can branch out in, not to mention that Gillespie should no problems recruiting there either.
Boulware might be a better ST coach (I honestly don't know if that is the case), but I think Graham will knock it out of the park as a recruiter.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:17 pm to UAgrad93
TWatts nugget:
LINK ]Alabama set to fill remaining staff opening with Tennessee assistant (BOL)
quote:
Still hearing Jay Graham's name for the final coach opening...ST/TE... Sources indicate, barring something unexpected, Graham is expected to be hired and could in fact already be hired.
As you know Saban announced the hires at his discretion with both O'Brien and Marrone coming well past the time they came to work. So there isn't a timeline on when Graham will be announced. But the other 3 guys got to work recruiting right away.
It's coaching moves so something could always change but if we hear anything different we will let you know.
LINK ]Alabama set to fill remaining staff opening with Tennessee assistant (BOL)
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:19 pm to TidalSurge1
BoB, Marrone, Gillespie and Graham would be, as expected, one hell of a replacement group on offense
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I forgot Belichick was doing the no OC title thing with O'Brien in 2009 and 2010 
. There is a ton of bad info in that article.
Even though I like Boulware can't complain about Graham.
Looks like Saban is pissed about Mack beating him for all those Carolina recruits last year so he took his runnings backs coach and got an ace recruiter for the region.
. There is a ton of bad info in that article. Even though I like Boulware can't complain about Graham.
Looks like Saban is pissed about Mack beating him for all those Carolina recruits last year so he took his runnings backs coach and got an ace recruiter for the region
.This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:43 pm to Carlton
quote:
I for Belichick was doing the no OC title thing with O'Brien in 2009 and 2010 . There is a ton of bad info in that article.
I knew as soon I read earlier than Erik Evans HATED the hire that there had to be some emotional reason for it - either he disagreed with something morally/personally BoB did or was a Texans fan or something. That's just how that dude is. Sure enough, he crafted a shoddy, shitty narrative (on like 3 levels, impressively) around the fact that he just hates BoB as a dude and thinks he sucks.
I mean I don't think BoB is some sort of offensive wizard, but to act like he's terrible and will cause us to lose 3 games
. Guy was the best of the Patriots Dynasty play-caller by numbers. But yea, he can't handle Alabama.This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:45 pm to Carlton
quote:
I for Belichick was doing the no OC title thing with O'Brien in 2009 and 2010
Yeah, O'Brien was calling the plays from 2009-2011 for the Pats, he just didn't have the OC title in 2009 & 2010 for some weird Bill Belichick reason.
ETA: That writeup has some fake news in it for sure. O'Brien must've killed that Evan dude's puppy or something.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:54 pm to Bamatab
quote:
ETA: That writeup has some fake news in it for sure. O'Brien must've killed that Evan dude's puppy or something.
I mean the fact that half of the football stuff is based around play-calling from 2001, 2002, and 2005, the latter of which was during the depths of one of the worst 10 year periods in CFB history at Duke
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:59 pm to Panthers4life
LOL. So on Erik Evans profile page he proudly proclaims that Anti-Gumping is my drug. So a guy with an agenda. Is this really his picture, because he looks like one of those supposedly bad arse Harley dorks to me (I've ridden Harleys since I was 20, but there are a lot of em out there)
goofy sumabitch
goofy sumabitch
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