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re: Coaches to replace this offseason

Posted on 11/7/22 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 2:31 pm to
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How do you screw up a position group anchored by Will Anderson, Jr. / Dallas Turner / Chris Braswell?


In his defense, Anderson is basically playing 3 or 5 tech or dropping into coverage half the time, Turner is constantly dropping into coverage, and that rabbits package turned out to be a gimmick we hardly ever used. I don't think any position coach on the staff should be above scrutiny, but BooB and Golding make their jobs so much harder than they need to be.
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 2:33 pm
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 2:33 pm to
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Saban needs to stop that rehab shite IMO. Brings the program down.


Disagree. Kiffen and Sark were great for the program, schematically and with recruiting.

BOB has been the only miss from the rehab program.

Posted by panhandlebama
Member since Oct 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 3:12 pm to
I think Saban just got tired of all the staff turnover and took his chances with this staff. He's not stupid and I'm sure he is well aware of our coaching deficiencies. Bama was 8 minutes away from winning a NC last year so Saban probably thought with all of the returning players that he might be able to steal a NC this year. He was able to win all of the close games last year except A&M but obviously it caught up to him this year. Saban hates losing more than anyone so I believe there will be changes this offseason. If not then I believe he is very close to retirement. I hope he decides to make the changes and make one more run at a NC before he retires.
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
1525 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 3:18 pm to
Lets just say it would be enough coaches to be considered a reboot.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
775 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 3:19 pm to
Will does not have the size/strength to play 3/5 tech. His game is speed to power. That is a 7/9 tech.

The rabbit/Cheetah package became Will and Chris playing 5 tech and Dallas playing Will LB. Move Dallas around a bit and waste Will/Chris where the OT can get their hands on them in the phone booth.

That is 100% coaching screw up. The guy we had at OLB coach last year at least gave the guys some tools to use when not put in the best win spots. Hutzler does not have the chops to coach around Golding's short comings.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 8:47 am to
Ballou has his place, but it's not as head S&C guy. Give a Cochran clone minus the substance abuse issues that position and have Ballou report to him. If he doesn't like that, there's the door.

Golding and BOB without question. Roach as well. Since Golding took over as ILB coach and Roach the DL, our front 7 has been trash, despite good recruiting. ILB has been a downright achilles heel since drunk Pete got that gig. It used to be the bedrock of the defense.
Both DB coaches need to go as well. We don't defend the pass anymore, we just interfere almost every play and hope the refs don't call them all. We've developed a reputation as a sloppy, interfering secondary and the refs are watching for it. If you don't believe that, how many times this year have you seen a Bama player get flagged and an opposing DB get away with the exact same technique?

OL seems to be improved, so he gets a pass this year, even though the bar was set about as low as a snake's nuts by Marrone.

Bring back Burton Burns! I wonder if Mark Ingram is ready to hang up the helmet and maybe become a coach. I think he would be a good one if Burns can't be lured out of retirement.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 8:49 am
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:06 am to
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DB coaches need to go as well


The head man is in charge of DB coaching and technique. I know we have assistants that work with them but Saban handles them directly.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:08 am to
Duly noted, but doesn't it appear from performance that he's either much less involved these days or he's losing his touch?
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:25 am to
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doesn't it appear from performance that he's either much less involved these days or he's losing his touch


Oh, I don't disagree. I'm just saying that he's part of that discussion. It goes back to where I was saying he needs to be willing to hire talented guys and get out of the way and let them do their job. Can you imagine being at DB coach at Bama? What original input are you allowed to install? What real value do you have if you aren't really in charge of coaching your position. It's not the best long term situation.

He needs to find guys that have proven success at what they do and let them come in and implement WHAT WORKS even if it doesn't fit his every idea of how it should be.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
826 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:12 am to
Saban just said he hears every play call on both sides of the ball and has the opportunity to make a change after it’s called. It sounded like an endorsement of both coordinators to me.

That’s very concerning.

I hope all of you are right and Saban cleans house, but I’m not going to get my hopes up Saban is going to make any changes.


Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1568 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 11:54 am to
Saban just said he hears every play call on both sides of the ball and has the opportunity to make a change after it’s called.

No shite Sherlock, so does every other head football coach in America during a game.


It sounded like an endorsement of both coordinators to me.

How the hell do you interpret that as a endorsement? You any kin to Fettermen? You had a stroke recently?


Posted by Bamafan4evr12
Member since Jul 2014
1977 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 12:01 pm to
Saban was asked directly and specifically about BOB. He said he wasn’t going to comment publicly on a guys performance…good, bad or indifferent.

How many times over the last 15 years has Saban been asked about a coach or player who has been doing well and he says something along the lines of “well he’s done a really good job for us.”

Saban basically not commenting at all on BOB tells me he says BOB is a problem. Now if someone will just ask about Golding.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
826 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:49 pm to
Edits were made for the thin skinned I suppose, not really clear as to why.

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How the hell do you interpret that as a endorsement? You any kin to Fettermen? You had a stroke recently?


Look here simpleton, It doesn’t require Sherlock Holmes level powers of deduction to understand when someone says they have veto power over any set of decisions, and they don’t employ that power, that they are in agreement with the decision that is made.

I am not sure how any rational individual could come to any other conclusion. Not making adjustments to calls is an endorsement of those calls, and by extension the individuals making those calls.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 3:24 pm
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 2:58 pm to
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Alfie Solomons


You should probably edit that post. Just a suggestion.
Posted by Alfie Solomons
Alabama
Member since Aug 2020
826 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13237 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:51 pm to
I would be fine with the day after the Iron Bowl , Saban, Wolford and T Rob are the only ones in the meeting room
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3225 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:55 pm to
The only way to excise the mentality issue is to clean house. Start from scratch with new expectations.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:59 pm to
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The sad thing is, we probably won’t fire anyone. It’ll take someone hiring them away.




shite, the two coordinators are like a kid on a milk carton. They gone.
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:26 am to
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Look here simpleton, It doesn’t require Sherlock Holmes level powers of deduction to understand when someone says they have veto power over any set of decisions, and they don’t employ that power, that they are in agreement with the decision that is made.


Yeah ok. We already covered this. Any head coach does.

But you said…. It sounded like a endorsement of both coaches. How so? Are you suggesting just by listening to a press conference that both OC & DC will keep their job?
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