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Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:37 pm to Carlton
Someone will file suit as soon as their $600+ NIL deal is denied.
That's inevitable.
My hope is the rest of the agreement can withstand the lawsuits.
That's inevitable.
My hope is the rest of the agreement can withstand the lawsuits.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:42 pm to TideSaint
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Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:46 pm to TideSaint
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Someone will file suit as soon as their $600+ NIL deal is denied.
That's inevitable.
My hope is the rest of the agreement can withstand the lawsuits.
The clearinghouse will never survive any lawsuits. The rest probably will.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:58 pm to FightingOkra
quote:explain why it wont survive lawsuits? It was put in place by a court settlement. A federal judge sanctioned it's implementation. People keep saying this without explaining what mechanism is going to invalidate the clearinghouse, legally. Nobody has like a constitutional or civil right to be eligible to play college football regardless of them doing sometime that invalidates their eligibility, in this instance participating in an invalid nil deal
The clearinghouse will never survive any lawsuits. The rest probably will.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:00 pm to FightingOkra
Conference commissioners seem serious about schools who will not sign the agreement to follow the new rules being unable to be in the conference. Schools have to set boundaries or college sports is dead. The boundaries still will likely shift, but we cannot have players/ employees and their street agents in control of college sports.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:14 pm to narddogg81
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explain why it wont survive lawsuits?
The courts already ruled the NCAA couldn't regulate NIL because of anti-trust. I'm not seeing why hiring some 3rd party contractor to do the same thing somehow changes that ruling. The first player that gets his NIL deal shot down is going to sue the NCAA for operating as a cartel. I don't see how an amateur sports league has any legal standing to tell the amateur participants how they can or can't employ themselves.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:28 pm to FightingOkra
quote:that's what the settlement was about. It's retroactively paying for the anti-trust judgement, billions of dollars, and it's establishing a framework by which they can regulate nil without violating anti trust laws. This shouldn't be hard to understand. The clearinghouse is part of the settlement.
The courts already ruled the NCAA couldn't regulate NIL because of anti-trust.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:40 pm to narddogg81
Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:48 pm to narddogg81
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This shouldn't be hard to understand. The clearinghouse is part of the settlement.
Sure. But as soon as the clearinghouse denies some kid a 500k deal for signing autographs because it isn't fair value they'll sue and they'll win.
Posted on 6/26/25 at 10:52 pm to TideSaint
My thinking is this: the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc have all faced and worked around anti-trust suits.
Now, Patrick Mahomes can sign a deal with Gillette to advertise their product, but I guarantee the league would step in if he tried to do ads for like hentai porn or some shite.
So there is precedent for a league to operate and limit the full capacity its players can profit. The Buss family can’t have Magic Johnson pay Luka Doncic 50 million dollars as a consultant for his real estate company because that would be under the table payment circumventing the salary cap.
I’m sure teams will find loopholes to get their players big NiL deals, but the threat of a clearinghouse/investigation will somewhat rein this in. You won’t have Dave Portnoy openly outright buying kids.
Now, Patrick Mahomes can sign a deal with Gillette to advertise their product, but I guarantee the league would step in if he tried to do ads for like hentai porn or some shite.
So there is precedent for a league to operate and limit the full capacity its players can profit. The Buss family can’t have Magic Johnson pay Luka Doncic 50 million dollars as a consultant for his real estate company because that would be under the table payment circumventing the salary cap.
I’m sure teams will find loopholes to get their players big NiL deals, but the threat of a clearinghouse/investigation will somewhat rein this in. You won’t have Dave Portnoy openly outright buying kids.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 6/26/25 at 11:19 pm to FightingOkra
quote:they will win how? There will be defined guidelines for what makes an acceptable nil deal vs pay for play. This has the blessing of the federal court. So what is the argument going to be? It can't be an anti-trust argument, that's been litigated and this system was the result. Nothing is stopping the booster from paying the kid the $500k, but if they do it won't be for playing football. So if that guys name image and likeness is still worth $500k what's stopping it from going through? What is the legal theory that will guarantee the player is going to instantly win against the NCAA, which is just implementing the plan laid out in the settlement, facilitated by the federal judiciary?
Sure. But as soon as the clearinghouse denies some kid a 500k deal for signing autographs because it isn't fair value they'll sue and they'll win.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 6/27/25 at 6:52 am to narddogg81
It is possible another court may disagree with the legality of the clearinghouse but the fact it was just rubber stamped by a federal judge means that the likelihood of it being completely destroyed is less likely than people assume. I could see some edge cases getting sorted in courts but suspect the clearing house survives. The way this gets destroyed is probably the way any activist lawyers do it with anything else: slowly work the precedent in a direction that makes it useless.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:45 am to Diego Ricardo
Is there a list somewhere that shows who is expected to announce/commit in the next week?
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:58 am to Bama3714
I looked up some guys individually.
Zay Hall is today (June 27)
Xavier Griffin is Sunday (June 29)
Brian Williams, Jr is July 1
Cedarian Morgan is July 2
Jireh Edwards is July 5
I've not been able to find a date for Owen Cabell, though I'm almost certain that I read that it's expected soon.
Zay Hall is today (June 27)
Xavier Griffin is Sunday (June 29)
Brian Williams, Jr is July 1
Cedarian Morgan is July 2
Jireh Edwards is July 5
I've not been able to find a date for Owen Cabell, though I'm almost certain that I read that it's expected soon.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 7:58 am to Bama3714
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June 27:
Malakai Lee
Zay Walker
June 29:
Xavier Griffin
June 30:
Owen Cabell
July 1:
Brian Williams
July 2:
Cederian Morgan
July 4:
Nolan Wilson
Boobie Feaster
July 5:
Jireh Edwards
July 7:
Karon Maycock
July 16:
Nick Abrams
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:13 am to Sandkhan
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My thinking is this: the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc have all faced and worked around anti-trust suits.
Now, Patrick Mahomes can sign a deal with Gillette to advertise their product, but I guarantee the league would step in if he tried to do ads for like hentai porn or some shite.
So there is precedent for a league to operate and limit the full capacity its players can profit. The Buss family can’t have Magic Johnson pay Luka Doncic 50 million dollars as a consultant for his real estate company because that would be under the table payment circumventing the salary cap.
I’m sure teams will find loopholes to get their players big NiL deals, but the threat of a clearinghouse/investigation will somewhat rein this in. You won’t have Dave Portnoy openly outright buying kids.
The difference between the NCAA and the professional leagues is collective bargaining agreements. Those contracts prevent the under the table payments you're talking about.
That will be the reason kids will win any lawsuits they file. They didn't have a say in this House settlement.
Until they are "university employees" who collectively bargained for their compensation then they will continue to file suit and more than likely win.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:15 am to TideSaint
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The difference between the NCAA and the professional leagues is collective bargaining agreements.
Bingo.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:33 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 6/27/25 at 8:42 am to TideSaint
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