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re: Charlie Strong was in Tuscaloosa Thursday

Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:35 pm to
Posted by prevatt33b
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:35 pm to
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Not this shite again. You guys are acting like we lost 20-14 with both AU’s TDs being the pick sixes. The defense wasn’t as bad as the final score indicated but they weren’t 0% at fault.


No one on my side of this argument has ever said the defense deserved 0% fault ("doesn't fall on the defense at all" was simple statement of reality, not an asignment of strict percentage of blame). But the reality is that with the nonstop months-long onslaught of a certain cadre of posters against Golding and the defense, THEY made the argument tantamount to blaming the defense 100%, and that what I and others have been saying this whole damn time. I've been railing against any "all or nothing", "100 or 0" interpretation of the events.

But addressing the auburn game once again, committing 2 unforced errors resulting in a minus 21 point swing will always be head and shoulders above any other possible reasons for a loss, and quite frankly, the defensive performance that game was simply put, plenty good enough to win. Any insinuation toward putting an amount of blame on the defense worth this much discussion (months) is just head-in-the-sand ignorance of the facts and the game of football.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 4:37 pm
Posted by prevatt33b
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:39 pm to
NO ONE ON THIS BOARD THINKS OR HAS SAID THE DEFENSE WAS GOOD ENOUGH. WE'VE JUST SAID IT WAS 1) DUE TO PERSONNEL ISSUES, AND 2) NOT NEARLY AS BAD A SOME FANS MAKE IT OUT TO BE.

THAT IS MUTHERfrickING ALL. THAT'S THE COCKDICKING TOTALITY OF WHAT MY SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT IS.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:42 pm to
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No one on my side of this argument has ever said the defense deserved 0% fault ("doesn't fall on the defense at all" was simple statement of reality, not an asignment of strict percentage of blame).

Saying like that is not a “statement of reality”. It wasn’t a great performance by the defense. The offense played great outside the two plays but the 2 plays cannot be ignored. And of course the refs gave them 3 free points. Trying to pin the blame on all one area is wrong.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:43 pm to
You have issues
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:50 pm to
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Do you really want to play these kinds of games person who gets upset when people don't kiss his arse in those stupid arse sticky threads?

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:03 pm to
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Saying like that is not a “statement of reality”. It wasn’t a great performance by the defense. The offense played great outside the two plays but the 2 plays cannot be ignored. And of course the refs gave them 3 free points. Trying to pin the blame on all one area is wrong.


The discussion isn't about how good or bad the defense was, and I doubt you'll find a single person who thinks it's even close to being normal. The discussion is based around if Pete Golding should be fired or not.

The only people trying to pin it all on one area are those who claim it's the reason why Pete Golding should be fired. And the only reason the offense is mentioned is because the turnover mistakes were more costly in the game than the amount of extra defensive mistakes.

This thread reminds me of why I don't think people should be allowed to vote.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:16 pm to
We’ve already had this argument numerous times but I don’t disagree here

quote:

This thread reminds me of why I don't think people should be allowed to vote.

That’s a scary thought
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:35 pm to
Damn I didn't think the hyperbole and falsifying arguments could get worse in here. *Slow Clap*

Not @ anyone in particular

Archive this baby
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 5:37 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:17 pm to
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But addressing the auburn game once again, committing 2 unforced errors resulting in a minus 21 point swing will always be head and shoulders above any other possible reasons for a loss, and quite frankly, the defensive performance that game was simply put, plenty good enough to win. 
quote:

NO ONE ON THIS BOARD THINKS OR HAS SAID THE DEFENSE WAS GOOD ENOUGH. WE'VE JUST SAID IT WAS 1) DUE TO PERSONNEL ISSUES, AND 2) NOT NEARLY AS BAD A SOME FANS MAKE IT OUT TO BE.

THAT IS MUTHERfrickING ALL. THAT'S THE COCKDICKING TOTALITY OF WHAT MY SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT IS.

This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 7:11 pm to
WHY ARE YOU YELLING?
Posted by Brostache48
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:23 pm to
Holy fricking shite guys. That's all I have to say about this thread
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Brostache48
Member since Dec 2019
557 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:44 pm to
Just to clarify on my opinion in this situation, I dont care if golding is fired or still our DC next year. Which its looking more likely than not, that he will be Alabama's DC next year. I'm not saying the offense didnt have any blame at all in our losses either
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:05 pm to
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That’s a scary thought


Not as scary as all the people who refuse to educate themselves but have equal power with those who do.
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:42 pm to
I think we can all agree that historically only good things have come from voter restriction/suppression.

I do hope in November however that before you can enter a polling place anywhere in the country you are required to answer who was more responsible for Alabama's loss to Auburn, Pete Golding or Alabama's offense.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 9:43 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:43 pm to
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I do hope in November however that before you can enter a polling place anywhere in the country you are required to answer who was more responsible for Alabama's loss to Auburn, Pete Golding or Alabama's offense.


I propose 26 debates between now and A-Day
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:36 pm to
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Not as scary as all the people who refuse to educate themselves but have equal power with those who do.

No it’s scary. Somehow you don’t see that. Voter suppression isn’t a good thing.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 2/22/20 at 7:57 am to
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So do you think this never happened to our defenses prior to Golding's arrival? Pruitt and Smart were not immune to that either; and it happened with some our better defenses here at Bama ('15, '16, & '17)...



I'm well aware of those games. I just don't allow myself to be statistically talked out of what I see. We are seeing lots of new things that on "average" is unprecedented for a Nick Saban coached team. Along with the yardage leakage going on, there are poor fundamentals associated with the last 2 seasons that are stinking up the place.

Coach Saban often gets asked during the season how good is this year's team. His answer is as predictable as the sun coming up. "They haven't proven anything yet. When the season's over we'll see where they match up."

The season is over and better coaches than Pete have been given a blindfold and marched out of Tuscaloosa for what we all just witnessed. Golding is apparently on the metric system.

Bringing Charlie Strong into the ranks only reminds me that as much as Saban hates to be proven wrong by all the anti-Golding chatter, he ain't crazy.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36824 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:45 am to
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No it’s scary. Somehow you don’t see that. Voter suppression isn’t a good thing.




You think your vote matters now?

How cute.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36824 posts
Posted on 2/22/20 at 9:52 am to
quote:

I think we can all agree that historically only good things have come from voter restriction/suppression.


What we have today is just another form of it. Just a dog and pony show to make people think they have a choice.

You don't. You'll end up voting for whoever the media wants you to vote for.
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