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re: Bama Football Tidings

Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by bamabenny
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:42 pm to
We need Florida or Louisville to beat FSU. I don’t see Texas losing and the P12 is in regardless it seems.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:46 pm to
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ESPN panel all said FSU, Oregon, and Texas are in over Bama if all win out (Michigan Washington and Ohio St too obviously). Committee is showing they agree.



In no shape, form or fashion should a 12-1 Oregon deserve to be in over a 12-1 Alabama that would've just ended Georgia's 29 game winning streak.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:49 pm to
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In no shape, form or fashion should a 12-1 Oregon deserve to be in over a 12-1 Alabama that would've just ended Georgia's 29 game winning streak.


You could tell McElroy thinks it’s bullshite. Said Oregon’s resume was way below Texas and Alabama. But he equivocated and said Oregon has looked better more consistently.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21865 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:55 pm to
UTx is holding Bama back.

Texas has the best SOS and SOR among the one loss teams, including the win over Bama. It seems the committee hates UTx.

Oregon is an eye test only vote, and its well deserved. They've looked really good.

UTx is losing the eye test measurable, but it has a much better resume.

The committee can't put Bama over UTx, but they can err on the eye test for Oregon over UTx.

If UTx was a two-loss team, I think Bama is ahead of Oregon based on their resume and where the team is now.

All that said, Bama has a dangerous game at JHS and is the clear #1 in the SEC CG, so the CFP committee is in an excellent place to hedge now with 6-8, as is.

It's not Bama hate; it's just how the variables of how the season have developed

A UTx or FSU loss over the next two weeks and Bama winning puts the Tide back in the CFPs.

If it doesn't play out, it doesn't take away from what has been an entertaining team at Bama to watch develop.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 6:59 pm to
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he equivocated and said Oregon has looked better more consistently.


Which, it turns out, is a lot easier to do with an easy schedule. Leaving the SEC out of a 4 team playoff is absurd. Michigan and Ohio State are artificially inflated just like Oregon. They play in a shite conference.

It almost always works itself out, but we’re running out of time. I don’t see FSU losing even with the backup. He’s serviceable and Louisville isn’t a great team. Don’t see Texas losing either.

If we’re left out Byrne should go ahead and just buy out every non conference P5 opponent and say frick if we’ll play Chattanooga, Mercer, North Texas, and UTEP every year. It would be a ridiculous precedent. This committee is a clown show though so I expect it.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:00 pm to
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In no shape, form or fashion should a 12-1 Oregon deserve to be in over a 12-1 Alabama that would've just ended Georgia's 29 game winning streak.


The committee is already setting the stage for it.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20236 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:04 pm to
Bama if they beat Georgia would hold every metric the committee claims they use to compare teams. I think Bama would be in over Oregon or they would be willfully ignoring SOS, ranked wins, highest win, ranked loss.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:11 pm to
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If we’re left out Byrne should go ahead and just buy out every non conference P5 opponent and say frick if we’ll play Chattanooga, Mercer, North Texas, and UTEP every year. It would be a ridiculous precedent. This committee is a clown show though so I expect it.


That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking. There is no reason to schedule a P5 opponent OOC.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:12 pm to
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think Bama would be in over Oregon or they would be willfully ignoring SOS, ranked wins, highest win, ranked loss.


They’re already doing that with Oregon over UTa and Alabama.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4761 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:14 pm to
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ESPN panel all said FSU, Oregon, and Texas are in over Bama if all win out (Michigan Washington and Ohio St too obviously). Committee is showing they agree. The narrative is set. Alabama doesnt control its destiny and needs help.


I’m not saying that won’t happen but I want to see it happen, esp if we beat UGa convincingly. (7-10 plus points).

I honestly want to see their little circle jerk on ESPn rationalize keeping an 11-1 SEC champ out of the playoff. A team that beat the #12, 14, and 21st ranked teams as well as the undefeated, back-to-back national champion. Especially what happened with TCU last year. Not all conferences are equal.

I just have to see it to believe it.

Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20236 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:19 pm to
At this point I attribute that to a holding pattern because it really doesn’t matter until after championship week. They know the shuffle is coming and maybe some of them don’t want to realize it but if Bama wins against UGA we are coming and bringing hell with us.
Posted by big d 18
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 11/21/23 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44398 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:06 pm to
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Bama if they beat Georgia would hold every metric the committee claims they use to compare teams


And they will ignore all of it.

Let's be honest here. No matter how it shakes out, the playoff will be this:

Pac12
Big10
Big12
Whoever else. If Georgia wins, that's SEC. If Georgia loses, that's probably ACC.

The win-loss count doesn't matter. The Strength of Schedule doesn't matter. It never has. The committee wants a specific playoff, and they'll get it. We saw that last year with TCU.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 8:07 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20236 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 8:09 pm to
Well we need losses if that’s the case. I’d think FSU is the best chance, Texas second.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21922 posts
Posted on 11/21/23 at 9:32 pm to
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Well we need losses if that’s the case. I’d think FSU is the best chance, Texas second.
depends on how the rest of the PAC 12 plays out cause of their system, but if Oregon and Washington end up with the 2 best league records they will play each other again, so either Washington is going to have a loss or Oregon is going to have 2, or maybe Oregon State takes out Oregon. Still possibilities
Posted by Section 80
Member since Apr 2013
874 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:11 am to
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Well we need losses if that’s the case. I’d think FSU is the best chance, Texas second.





Florida gonna upset fsu this weekend



Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
8768 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:38 am to
The PAC 12 is in regardless. Media is in love with both Oregon and Washington. Idk how you guys can’t see that. Media all thinks Oregon is the best team by the eye test and they have proclaimed the PAC 12 the deepest conference all season. Have to hope either Texas or Florida St. lose. I think it’s a very good probability Florida St. loses to Louisville.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22275 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:30 am to
Agreed. I think I'd rather UW win the P12 just to be sure they don't keep both teams ahead of us.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13030 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:29 am to
Florida's starting QB is out too.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:13 am to
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