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re: Bama Football Tidings
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:49 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
Posted on 10/6/23 at 10:49 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
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they believe Rees was purposely hamstringing the offense for Milroe to work on things he’s not good at. Do you all think that is true and maybe that’s why we haven’t seen RPOs the past couple of games?
We holding back the secret playbook you say? I’m down with believing tbis. RPO clinic coming tomorrow. Tide puts up 40 and wins by three TDs.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 12:08 am to elposter
Through 5 games our leading receiver has something like 189 yards total.
I think Mac to Smitty had that before halftime of the 2020 NC game...or close to it.
This offense is totally anemic...really due for a breakout.
I think Mac to Smitty had that before halftime of the 2020 NC game...or close to it.
This offense is totally anemic...really due for a breakout.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 12:09 am
Posted on 10/7/23 at 12:41 am to TideSaint
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I think we are all a little tired of the negativity, not just from Shaft either.
“We” are tired of?
Like Boz said “If you don’t like it, leave the board and you won’t have to see it.”
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Iif you can't enjoy the games then what the frick is the point?
Honest evaluation and discussion of obvious issues is a normal part of fan base discussion and might be the point you’re obviously missing.
Why is this concept so foreign to the sunshine pumping crowd who can’t handle the reality that the current performance of this team has definitely earned some negative comments?
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 12:42 am
Posted on 10/7/23 at 1:46 am to Shaft Williams
What are YOU watching?
Milroe leads the qbs named in qb efficiency (only 12 qbs in the entire country have better qb efficiency than Milroe- and none of them are in the SEC), has accounted for 10 TDs, (6 passing, 4 rushing). Only Klubnik has more (11 passing, 2 rushing), but he isn't in the top 50 for qb effeciency.
Beck has one more passing TD than Milroe and 1 less INT, McCord has the same number of TDs, 2 less INTs. Milroe has more rushing yards than all the others combined (in less games).
Who the frick cares about red zone passing TDs? What does it matter from where on the field a TD is thrown?
Milroe would ABSOLUTELY start at OhioSt, and every other Big10 school except for Michigan.
Milroe would start for almost half the SEC- MissSt, UK, USC, Vandy, BAMA, UF, (maybe Tenner- Milton is garbage).
I'm not sure what the frick you're blabbering about, but your period blood is getting thick all over this board.
I don't want you banned, though. Just FYI.
Milroe leads the qbs named in qb efficiency (only 12 qbs in the entire country have better qb efficiency than Milroe- and none of them are in the SEC), has accounted for 10 TDs, (6 passing, 4 rushing). Only Klubnik has more (11 passing, 2 rushing), but he isn't in the top 50 for qb effeciency.
Beck has one more passing TD than Milroe and 1 less INT, McCord has the same number of TDs, 2 less INTs. Milroe has more rushing yards than all the others combined (in less games).
Who the frick cares about red zone passing TDs? What does it matter from where on the field a TD is thrown?
Milroe would ABSOLUTELY start at OhioSt, and every other Big10 school except for Michigan.
Milroe would start for almost half the SEC- MissSt, UK, USC, Vandy, BAMA, UF, (maybe Tenner- Milton is garbage).
I'm not sure what the frick you're blabbering about, but your period blood is getting thick all over this board.
I don't want you banned, though. Just FYI.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 2:06 am
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:15 am to elposter
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We holding back the secret playbook you say?
I didn’t say a secret playbook. We all know RPO is apart of the offense and Rees is not calling it.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:16 am to MrPigskin
This ^^^^^ X 1 billion. The blocking by the WRs and to a lesser extent by TEs on the perimeter has been really bad. Some REALLY half hearted effort out there. Maybe Nick needs to verbally rip them a new one too?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:20 am to Chad4Bama
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Through 5 games our leading receiver has something like 189 yards total.
I find it weird you said "something like" as if you didn't look this up lol
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I think Mac to Smitty had that before halftime of the 2020 NC game...or close to it.
This offense is totally anemic...really due for a breakout.
We were all pretty much warned we would be getting away from the high-powered, pass heavy offense we had been running the past 5-6 years. I'm not sure why it's such a shock
If you remove the USF game where we purposely experimented with 2 back up QBs and just go based off games our starter actually played in, passing yards were 226, 255, 225 and 164 on just 85 total attempts. That's a healthy 10.25ypa.
In the last 10 years we've averaged over 10.25ypa against FBS competition just 3 times (between 10.6 and 11). We only won the natty one of those years.
It's game 6. The team obviously still has questions on offense, but let's not pretend like having concerns this late in the season hasn't happened before. I think people forget how bumpy some of those successful seasons got in the middle.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:29 am to HighTide_ATL
I find it weird that so many posters are trying to convince themselves that Milroe is a good QB. Yall need your heads examined.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:31 am to Amarillo Tide
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The blocking by the WRs and to a lesser extent by TEs on the perimeter has been really bad. Some REALLY half hearted effort out there. Maybe Nick needs to verbally rip them a new one too?
We are passed the yelling stage, I’d cut the next WR who alligator arms for an entire game like I’ve seen from most of them and I’d tell Wiggins he improves their block success rate significantly by LSU or he’s fired.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:40 am to tide06
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I’d cut the next WR who alligator arms
Remember when all the WRs were angry bc Hurts couldnt get them the ball? Then Tua becomes QB and the whole WR room became 1st round picks. It's almost like the QB play effects the WR play.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:44 am to SECSolomonGrundy
I didn’t say he was good. I’m not even saying he’s better than any other QB we’ve had.
I’m saying the level of panic coming from fans is overblown and kind of ridiculous. We’ve had less efficient QBs take us to the playoffs and even win championships for us. Once that happens, people tend to forget your short comings and only remember the final result
I’m saying the level of panic coming from fans is overblown and kind of ridiculous. We’ve had less efficient QBs take us to the playoffs and even win championships for us. Once that happens, people tend to forget your short comings and only remember the final result
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 8:45 am
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:45 am to HighTide_ATL
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We’ve had less efficient QBs take us to the playoffs and even win championships for us
Which ones?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:47 am to HighTide_ATL
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In the last 10 years we've averaged over 10.25ypa against FBS competition just 3 times (between 10.6 and 11). We only won the natty one of those years. It's game 6. The team obviously still has questions on offense, but let's not pretend like having concerns this late in the season hasn't happened before. I think people forget how bumpy some of those successful seasons got in the middle.
Anyone shocked should rewatch games from the Jalen Hurts era.
Against any team with a functional defense we were non-functional on offense.
I think we’ve all collectively blocked that from our memory and painted over it with better times from the Tua/Mac/Bryce era.
Things I think going into A&M
-Milroe is better than Hurts was statistically and it’s not even close
-Milroe is not making solid reads and has major trouble processing with pressure
-Our WR group is nowhere close to the Devonta Smith era, but throws are there with a 25% improvement in QB awareness
-The OL looked better than they actually are against OM and MSU and are going to really struggle against that A&M DL which is probably the best in the nation.
-I don’t expect to see a massive change in play calling because nothing in Rees history indicates we aren’t seeing his full offense right now. This is who he is and pretending we have half a playbook we aren’t using is just people dealing with the mental grief of realizing how limited we are offensively right now.
-I think the offense is going to look really bad today because we won’t be able to consistently sustain drives by running the ball. You beat A&M by throwing downfield and while it’s possible Milroe can do that for a couple drives I don’t see how you can think that’s a recipe for success on the road against an offense that is pretty competent this year.
-I think this is the hardest remaining game of the season and expect a final score of something like 24-20 with the winner determined by who turns the ball over the most.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:57 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Bryce, Hurts, Coker, & Sims all had similar QB ratings and had equal or less avg ypa than Milroe does 5 games into their first seasons
Again I’m not saying Milroe is better than any of them. I’m saying this isn’t something we haven’t seen before, nor is it something we haven’t been successful with before
Again I’m not saying Milroe is better than any of them. I’m saying this isn’t something we haven’t seen before, nor is it something we haven’t been successful with before
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 9:00 am
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:58 am to tide06
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Anyone shocked should rewatch games from the Jalen Hurts era.
Against any team with a functional defense we were non-functional on offense.
I think we’ve all collectively blocked that from our memory and painted over it with better times from the Tua/Mac/Bryce era.
This
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:59 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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We’ve had less efficient QBs take us to the playoffs and even win championships for us
Which ones?
Hurts, went to playoff and won a sec championship.
Edit: I don’t know if he was “less efficient” though. I remember him not taking many sacks and throwing the ball away a lot.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 9:01 am
Posted on 10/7/23 at 9:06 am to Syd
I was going based off ypa and QB rating but I agree you can probably factor some other variables. Still there were plenty of 3 and outs with Hurts whether it was a thrown away pass or a sack
That being said, keep in mind Hurts did have Ridley in year 1
Tua had Ridley, Ruggs, Smitty, Jeudy and Waddle
Mac had Smitty, Waddle and Metchie
Bryce had Metchie and Jamo
What is Milroe working with? Burton? Anyone else is unknown at this point
That being said, keep in mind Hurts did have Ridley in year 1
Tua had Ridley, Ruggs, Smitty, Jeudy and Waddle
Mac had Smitty, Waddle and Metchie
Bryce had Metchie and Jamo
What is Milroe working with? Burton? Anyone else is unknown at this point
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 9:07 am
Posted on 10/7/23 at 9:16 am to Syd
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don’t know if he was “less efficient” though. I remember him not taking many sacks and throwing the ball away a lot.
Hurts was always good at throwing the ball away. He was a game manager.
Milroe has some decent stats because he can turn a busted play into something that looks like a punt return td. But when it comes to getting the most out of the play design, he struggles. The offense is as simple as it has ever been under Saban, and it still doesnt look smooth.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 9:27 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Remember when all the WRs were angry bc Hurts couldnt get them the ball? Then Tua becomes QB and the whole WR room became 1st round picks. It's almost like the QB play effects the WR play.
I should’ve been more clear: our WR group alligator arms their blocks when the ball isn’t coming their way.
It’s impacting our screen passing and perimeter run game almost every play and our TE and RB groups aren’t much better.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 9:30 am to HighTide_ATL
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Tua had Ridley, Ruggs, Smitty, Jeudy and Waddle
That wr group was unselfish, esp considering they were all wanting the ball.
But they understood the importance of blocking for one another after the catch.
I heard Smitty talk about affecting the db’s path to the wr after a catch by simply getting up into the db’s space, making the db adjust his angle. It’s a big part of why that group took so many short passes to the house with their speed.
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