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Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:46 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:46 am to
I didn't think Brian Robinson looked all that bad, but Sanders did. The blocking for Sanders was pretty atrocious though, and Mizzou was loaded up to stop the run knowing we were just milking clock, so I'll hold off on any final judgment on Sanders. He did seem to go down very easily at contact though. Perhaps that was just some rust.


Going in, it felt like a game we could name our score, and in a normal season I think we would have. First game of a delayed season, with limited practice time, no cupcake games to get the backups some reps, and I think it went about as well as one could hope.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:48 am to
Trey Sanders wasn't playing with our entire starting OL out there or the same play calling. Sanders was going against a good defense with bad OL blocking. He was being hit behind the LOS.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 9:59 am
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
719 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:49 am to
I thought B-Rob looked good and capable to me. Not sure what I missed that has everyone else down on him.

Now Sanders, I get. He did have a lot of factors going against him, but he didn't exactly flash, even under the circumstances.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:51 am to
quote:

The backup skill players like Trey Sanders weren't playing with our entire starting OL out there or the same play calling.

That's true. But you have to admit, there were no flashes of greatness, which you typically see even early on with the greats. No burst, no power, no great sudden moves, no exceptional speed or vision. I'm not giving up on the kid, but he just flat out looked bad. Robinson as a senior, only looked slightly better. I'm hoping one or two of the new guys get some playing time soon.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
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5606 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:53 am to
quote:

I thought B-Rob looked good and capable to me. Not sure what I missed that has everyone else down on him.

He wasn't horrible (outside of the TD pass he dropped that hit him in the hands, that was pretty horrible.) There was just nothing great either. No long runs, no great receptions, just a lot of 1-2 yard gains with a couple of 4-5 yard runs mixed in. Meh performance at best. Which is not what you want to see out of a senior RB you're counting on for depth so Najee can get a breather.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:55 am to
Trey was being hit by defenders behind the LOS. Yet you still expect a RB to excel in that situation.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:58 am to
I didn't say I expected him to excel in that situation. I did hope to see a flash or two of his capability. Even getting hit in the backfield, seeing him drag a guy or two for a couple of yards would have been something. I saw nothing. Like I said, not giving up on the kid, hope he turns out to be our best RB ever. Maybe he will in time.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:04 am to
You pretty much keep saying you expected him to excel at least some in a situation where it was nearly impossible. It's much harder to drag two tacklers if they're tackling you behind the LOS vs 3-4 yards downfield. Consider leading Heisman Trophy candidate Leonard Fornette's abysmal showing against Bama's defense that shut him down because LSU's OL couldn't block Bama's front-7.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 12:39 pm
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:08 am to
Backoff man. Tider04 has 10 years of arm-chair coaching experience. The guy's forgotten more than he knows.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:09 am to
Agreed. I just didn't see anything positive, that's all. Maybe it was 100% the back-up OL's fault, in which case, is a bit concerning in it's own right. For the record, both starting guards were in the game most of the time Sanders was. Evan Neal also played some LT with Sanders, so there were times he was on the field with three starting OL.

I do find it amusing that out of a long post of mostly positive things, the sunshine pumpers pick out a couple of the minor critiques to argue against. Some people just can't handle any negative commentary about our players, team or coaches--no matter how true it may be. And this is not directed at any poster in particular, just a general observation.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:11 am to
I have 40 years of arm-chair coaching experience.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:15 am to
I do find it amusing that you're essentially bashing Sanders and concluding that he's just no good. Here's a hot take Trey Sanders sux thread for you to enjoy.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:36 am to
Sorry but someone pointing out a poor performance does not equal "bashing." It just doesn't. I even stated that I'm not giving up on him, and hope he becomes one of our GOAT backs. Some of you literally just cannot handle any critique of a Bama player or coach. It's amusing, actually.

PS--Sanders carried the ball 9 times for 1 net yard. An average of 0.1 yards per carry. And if you say anything about that--it's "bashing". Okay.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 10:39 am
Posted by AjA77
Member since Aug 2015
1124 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Agreed. I just didn't see anything positive, that's all. Maybe it was 100% the back-up OL's fault, in which case, is a bit concerning in it's own right. For the record, both starting guards were in the game most of the time Sanders was. Evan Neal also played some LT with Sanders, so there were times he was on the field with three starting OL.


I think sanders was actually just running were the plays were designed.
He was waiting for the play to develop and not looking for cut back lanes.
That being said some of the first calls were using guards pulling and that takes more game live reps.
I will say that I am a bigger fan of the kid from Texas and also Williams.But based on sanders high school film the kid can run,
And that one showing should not be whats expected or reflected of him.
We are loaded at RB and hopefully we use that depth.
Posted by pmacattack
Member since Oct 2016
6662 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:40 am to
Sanders performance reminded me of Damien Harris first year when I and many others wrote him off as a 5* bust. He then preceded to reel off x2 1000 yd seasons
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1563 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:46 am to
Well... it looks like things are back to normal around here.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:11 am to
Yep. Our "new normal" -- spoiled Bama fan "experts" expecting/demanding perfection even despite the impact of the pandemic.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:15 am to
I believe Sanders should have gotten into the game very early. We kinda rode Najee a little too much in my opinion. We are going to need him down the stretch. I wanted to see a drive in the first quarter with Sanders in the game. Robinson just doesn’t seem like a valid 2
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:21 am to
I agree that sanders should have come in earlier. I also am going to wait to make an opinion on Sanders until I see him get some reps with all the starters in. Someone mentioned in another thread that most of the time he was in they expected the run. So loading the box up for the run very few RBs will be successful.

This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 11:45 am
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:25 am to
Yea, it’s basically being a tackling dummy.
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