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Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:18 pm to
It's amazing how little to nothing is done about allegations these days.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:36 pm to
It appears to me the NCAA & IARP have what they need to hammer LSU pretty hard, probably even for "Failure to Monitor" and/or "Lack of Institutional Control." I think it's fairly likely LSU's AD and BB HC get a show cause and termination, and LSU BB & FB get some vacated games, major sanctions, scholarship reductions and probation. We'll see.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 1:07 am
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:23 pm to
Yea, I believe LSU is going to get hammered.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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36467 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:21 pm to
The IARP is doing the Memphis and Kansas BB cases first, so it'll be 2021 by the time they get to LSU's combined BB & FB case.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 11:23 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64985 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:57 am to
What is their football program being accused of?
Posted by bamabaum
Montgomery, AL
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:57 am to
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:00 am to
quote:

What is their football program being accused of?

Buying recruits
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 8:09 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:11 am to
The chickens are eventually going to come home to roost for LSU on this. It's clear and obvious that major rules were violated and then their coach was a cocky jackass about it. The NCAA is taking their time because they want to make sure that the evidence they present can't be contested. Their arrogance and hubris towards this entire situation has been nearly a mirror image of the Ole Miss fans before they got hammered.

Make no mistake, sanctions are coming and Wade is going to lose his job. It's a matter of when, not if. Any other expected outcome is high delusion

The guy that paid Vadal Alexander's dad has already plead guilty and is doing time in the federal penitentiary for embezzlement and money laundering. Some of that money went towards LSU football players and their families. It may not be until 2021 or 2022, but the LSU athletic department is on borrowed time with this case.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 8:19 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:41 am to
In the mean time, the media is covering it enough that it'll probably make some recruits wary of going to LSU. Some players and coaching staff might jump ship too. Players aren't losing eligibility for this season, even if they play. I wonder if LSU is brazen enough to continue their shenanigans.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:02 am to
They should have fired Wade when they had a chance. Now the football program is brought into the same investigation with the bball program when LSU was trying to keep them separate.

In regards to the IARP there is no appeal process. There decision is final. Lumping this together under one investigation does not bode well for LSU. It will give cause to a "lack of institutional control".
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:07 am to
Its the slow death penalty. This committee that these 3 cases are referred to is initially made up of professional (hit men) investigators. They take what you have and try to find more dirt. LSU has been accused of not cooperating with the ncaa. Thats all the ncaa needs to hammer you to hell and back. But this is all new, so I guess anything could happen. I know that Memphis was very concerned (terrified) about being referred to this process. LSU tried very hard to get the football problem resolved before the basketball issues got sent to this committee. It could be a cluster for lsu.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20486 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:22 am to
quote:

the media is covering it enough that it'll probably make some recruits wary of going to LSU


I doubt that. The basketball players getting the big money don't intend to be there very long to begin with.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:50 am to
bball players that think lsu will be on probation, no ncaa tournament, scaled back scholarships, probably different coaches etc, will definitely look elsewhere. Not to mention, the lsu players will be given the green light to transfer, if they go on probation.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:54 am to
I was referring to both BB and FB.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 11:56 am
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 2:58 pm to
Don't hold your breath on LSU getting hammered. LSU isn't a scrub program and the NCAA is becoming more and more of an inconvenience but not a necessity for Power 5 football programs.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:25 pm to
I'm not holding my breath on LSU getting hammered, but I think they will. I doubt very much that they'll get away with their shenanigans unscathed. We'll see.

In the mean time, their IARP case will take a while to complete and regardless of the final outcome it'll be adversely affecting their BB & FB programs.

Maybe you're underestimating the value and importance of the NCAA and the cooperative support and direction it receives from P5 conferences, universities and athletic programs.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 9:00 pm
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12220 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:35 pm to
The only school the NCAA hammers is Alabama.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11659 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 5:43 pm to
Perhaps LSU is looking down the barrel of that shotgun the NCAA used on Bama....maybe not
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:08 am to
The IARP is an independent group, so the ncaa investigators have nothing to do with the outcome. Its headed up by a Harvard law professor. There are only 3 reasons for a case to be referred to the IARP. 1-the school has done something that is not in the best interest of the student athlete. 2-there is an acrimonious relationship between the school and the ncaa. ( I would think this probably applies in these basketball cases. KS thinks they have done nothing wrong and the NCAA says they are guilty. Also, its been written that lsu has not cooperated with the ncaa during their investigation. That is probably Will Wade, and probably gets you under number 2. The third is if harsh penalties are possible. its likely the ncaa feels this should happen in all these bball cases. It basically gives them a line of defense when law suites are filed. They can say an independent review board did it, not us. To make matter worse, the penalties this IARP can use are more harsh than the penalty guidelines the ncaa can hit you with. For example, the NCAA can put up to a ten year show cause on a coach. This new committee can put a life time ban on the coach. The ncaa can fine a school that goes to a bowl game, this committee can take all its bowl proceeds. I think this new procedure isnt for nickle and dime cases. The ncaa will only use this if it feels something egregious has happened. Anyone think Will Wade can refuse to talk to the investigators of this committee and not get thrown under the bus? The ncaa has already decided you are guilty, they just want someone else to confirm it or set you free.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 10:17 am
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