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re: Anyone else watching Seattle and worried that our OC could be a major issue?
Posted on 2/9/26 at 1:05 pm to Amarillo Tide
Posted on 2/9/26 at 1:05 pm to Amarillo Tide
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I like to think the fact Bama seemed to bring in some larger defensive linemen should help the defense not getting pushed around so much.
"Football experts" that I've heard on podcast, interviews, etc., have been saying since early in 2024 that they were concerned our defense was going to be vulnerable to the run, and that was based on scheme, not personnel. I think the jury is out as to whether that will continue to be the case, but it's a bit of a concern.
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Posted on 2/9/26 at 1:32 pm to Rip N Lip
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Can you send me some of that top shelf Colorado kind bud, PowPow?
Dude gets high on sniffing his own farts, not cannabis.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 2:23 pm to Bham Bammer
They gave up less than 300ypg (296.8)for only the 2nd time in a season since 2018.
The Indiana game created a great deal of recency-bias.
Bama allowed the 2nd fewest yards in the SEC behind only OU.
They played well enough to win in 13 out of the 15 games they played against one of the toughest schedules I can remember:
- UGA twice
- OU twice
- 8 ranked opponents
- 16-0 National Champion Indiana
Alabama has lost a total of 2 games in the two years since CKD has been here when the offense produced 21 points.
Losses:
Vandy 40-35 (2024)
OU 23-21 (2025)
Bama finished 7-1 and made it to Atlanta, and without the defense they would have been 5-3 or 4-4.
Bama’s defense has allowed 30 points 2 times out of their past 23 games. For context, the 2021 defense game up 34+ 4 times in the same season.
I don’t know what people expect…
The Indiana game created a great deal of recency-bias.
Bama allowed the 2nd fewest yards in the SEC behind only OU.
They played well enough to win in 13 out of the 15 games they played against one of the toughest schedules I can remember:
- UGA twice
- OU twice
- 8 ranked opponents
- 16-0 National Champion Indiana
Alabama has lost a total of 2 games in the two years since CKD has been here when the offense produced 21 points.
Losses:
Vandy 40-35 (2024)
OU 23-21 (2025)
Bama finished 7-1 and made it to Atlanta, and without the defense they would have been 5-3 or 4-4.
Bama’s defense has allowed 30 points 2 times out of their past 23 games. For context, the 2021 defense game up 34+ 4 times in the same season.
I don’t know what people expect…
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:34 pm to BamaBravesPackers
For those saying it was all Seattle’s defense (which they were obviously very good):
Seattle gained ~340 yds offense on the Patriots, which was close to 100yds more than any other team in the postseason (LAC, HOU, DEN). Seattle’s defense was great, but their offense moved the ball on the Patriots’ stout defense. It’s pretty obvious the OC did a good job in Seattle and was part of their success for winning the Super Bowl.
(And according Ystar, would have put up 21 more points if Darnold had seen a few open receivers. If true, that means the OC was clearly doing a great job attacking the Patriots’ defense).
Does anyone really think if Grubb was the OC with all the new players, that Seattle still wins the Super Bowl? I think it’s pretty obvious the answer is no, and that’s a somewhat depressing realization for some of us alumnus.
Seattle gained ~340 yds offense on the Patriots, which was close to 100yds more than any other team in the postseason (LAC, HOU, DEN). Seattle’s defense was great, but their offense moved the ball on the Patriots’ stout defense. It’s pretty obvious the OC did a good job in Seattle and was part of their success for winning the Super Bowl.
(And according Ystar, would have put up 21 more points if Darnold had seen a few open receivers. If true, that means the OC was clearly doing a great job attacking the Patriots’ defense).
Does anyone really think if Grubb was the OC with all the new players, that Seattle still wins the Super Bowl? I think it’s pretty obvious the answer is no, and that’s a somewhat depressing realization for some of us alumnus.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:43 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Why is that just now a question?
I had doubts the second we hired him after he was fired from Seattle. Seattle was fine I thought with him, but there were underlying issues of why they wanted to move off of him.
I had doubts the second we hired him after he was fired from Seattle. Seattle was fine I thought with him, but there were underlying issues of why they wanted to move off of him.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:47 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Grubb got a lot to prove this year. Nobody is denying that.
However it is a bit dodgy to make broad pronouncements about Grubb based off what Klint Kubiak did in Seattle. They were a good but not great offense. Their offensive staff deserves some credit because the OL isn't great, they were starting a journeyman QB, they have the best WR in the league in 2025 but he was the only good WR they had (Kupp is well on his way in a decline).
However that offense was all they needed with the defense they were rocking. Seattle was 6th in takeaways but finished -3 in turnover margin because of how turnover prone they were in the backfield.
That offense wasn't going to be carrying a team to a title. In fact, if they had just a top 10ish defense there is a good chance that team is not even in the playoffs.
However it is a bit dodgy to make broad pronouncements about Grubb based off what Klint Kubiak did in Seattle. They were a good but not great offense. Their offensive staff deserves some credit because the OL isn't great, they were starting a journeyman QB, they have the best WR in the league in 2025 but he was the only good WR they had (Kupp is well on his way in a decline).
However that offense was all they needed with the defense they were rocking. Seattle was 6th in takeaways but finished -3 in turnover margin because of how turnover prone they were in the backfield.
That offense wasn't going to be carrying a team to a title. In fact, if they had just a top 10ish defense there is a good chance that team is not even in the playoffs.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:49 pm to bbeck
The question had been discussed before, although last night was the final data point of information pertinent to the discussion we’ll get this season.
I stayed somewhat neutral on previous discussions (or stayed out of it) as I hadn’t watched a lot of Seattle this year, but watching them last night coupled with all the previous discussions has me concerned.
I stayed somewhat neutral on previous discussions (or stayed out of it) as I hadn’t watched a lot of Seattle this year, but watching them last night coupled with all the previous discussions has me concerned.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:53 pm to Diego Ricardo
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However it is a bit dodgy to make broad pronouncements about Grubb based off what Klint Kubiak did in Seattle.
I think Bama’s worst rushing offense in half a century kind of disproves your “dodgy broad pronouncements” based on 1 data point from NFL theory.
This post was edited on 2/9/26 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 2/9/26 at 8:59 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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I think Bama’s worst rushing offense in half a century kind of disproves your “dodgy broad pronouncements” based on 1 data point from NFL theory.
That has nothing to do with the 2025 Seahawks offensive performance that is lukewarm in all frank analysis.
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:18 pm to Diego Ricardo
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That has nothing to do with the 2025 Seahawks offensive performance that is lukewarm in all frank analysis.
The OP had 2 season-long data points listed, one from college and one from the NFL. You took issue with the NFL data point, but seemed to couch it in a way as it was the only data point being used to question our OC. It wasn’t the only data point.
We’re obviously limited in data or it would be obvious to most people if Grubb is an issue or not. I, for one, am not willing to say Grubb’s offenses prior to the Seahawks are definitive proof he’s a good OC. The P12 didn’t have near the defensive talent or defensive coaches as the SEC or NFL. If you have NFL talent on offense but play in a weak defensive conference, you’re going to look like a genius. The last 2 seasons of data points are not instilling confidence that Grubb can hang with the best defensive minds. That said, hopefully it was just 2 seasons of different things beyond his immediate control (QB at Seattle, OL coach at Bama). Time will tell
Posted on 2/9/26 at 9:20 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Grubb is not a good OC. He is the most odd and inconsistent OC I believe I've ever seen Bama have. Grubb is the main reason that I know Deboer doesn't know what he is doing because is in full support of Grubb's style. Its weak and finesse. Just like the coaches style of coaching.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 6:54 am to BamaBravesPackers
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The OP had 2 season-long data points listed, one from college and one from the NFL. You took issue with the NFL data point, but seemed to couch it in a way as it was the only data point being used to question our OC. It wasn’t the only data point.
It is an irrelevant analysis. The two data points that have nothing in common at all. The Seahawks only modestly improved by yardage and points. Barely improved in giveaways (28 in 2024 and 24 in 2025). I wouldn't be surprised if the increase in PPG is mostly due to them having more NOTs than 2024 but I'm not spending that much time reviewing stats. So the idea that getting rid of Grubb wildly transformed their fortunes can't really be shown in the metrics. The reality is that they had an all-time defensive season in 2025 and might have still won a Super Bowl if Grubb were their OC.
As for Alabama, the problem we had was mostly roster not scheme. That is on the staff for not making changes after the 2024 season along the OL and at RB. Alabama didn't really run the DeBoer offense in earnest in 2024 and we had a bit better edge blocking with the TEs too. This was the first year the scheme was really like what got them to Tuscaloosa and the roster mismatches showed through. No amount of play calling is going to fix a RB that can't credibly press the C gap on outside zone or OL that struggles to move laterally in zone scheme or pull blocks.
If Alabama still can't execute the base run plays this scheme needs to work in 2026, I agree we have problems but they'd be more complicated than the OC calls bad plays.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:38 am to Shocco
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Grubb is not a good OC
Do you know what a good OC is?
The same OC who had his team the championship game 2024, that developed so many talents, whom Saban tried to pry to Alabama...
Isn't a good OC.
Yeah, okay. Sure Jan
Posted on 2/10/26 at 8:52 am to YStar
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Do you know what a good OC is?
The same OC who had his team the championship game 2024, that developed so many talents, whom Saban tried to pry to Alabama...
Isn't a good OC.
I agree here with you but what do you expect with so many spoiled fans and unrealistic expectations post Saban.
I am not sure how good Grubb is and could care less what he did in the NFL. What I do know is that Grubb's success at Washington depended on having a great OL and a solid running game. In 2023 UW ran for 40% of their plays and over 40% of their production came from the run. They also had the top OL in the country. This past year Alabama OL was bad, and we did not have any solid RBs. So, we bring in an OC whose offense depends on solid OL play and requires an RB to get positive yards into a program that he inherits neither and all of the sudden he is the worst OC out there.
Some of these fans are beyond talking with as they only want to see things a certain way. As bad is this was in so many areas still made the playoffs, but it is what it is.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 9:15 am
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:47 am to TideWarrior
Seattle fired both the OC and OL coach last year. The same crew that had much success with Kalen at Washington. Hopefully the new hire can right the ship.
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:15 am to Shocco
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Grubb is not a good OC. He is the most odd and inconsistent OC I believe I've ever seen Bama have. Grubb is the main reason that I know Deboer doesn't know what he is doing because is in full support of Grubb's style. Its weak and finesse. Just like the coaches style of coaching
Have you ever talked to a psychiatrist? You might look into covert narcism.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 1:22 pm to Bham Bammer
When we’re often outweighed by about 40 lbs (their guys weighing 325-340 and ours are 285-300), it often makes a difference.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 6:48 pm to YStar
quote:Yes, thats why I said Grubb wasn't a good one. Keep staying in denial, Marsha.
Do you know what a good OC is
Posted on 2/10/26 at 6:50 pm to LovetheLord
quote:No, I am more sane than a psychologist and you might want to learn how to spell.
narcism
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