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Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:00 am to phil4bama
This is why I’m so glad we got in the playoffs this year. I think we can all agree Tua ain’t coming in and winning a championship this year. So to me this is Jalens audition for next year. If he comes out and lays another egg, givin the coaches do a much better job with play calling, I think it’s gonna be Tua getting the go next year. But if Jalen can prove to be effective passing in the spotlight in these playoffs I think he remains the guy.
I know some of you will say but he’s had two years already to prove it!!!!!! Grrr blah muh muh.(remember only 19 still)
But I really feel that this will be the last draw with Saban if he holds the ball and trots out of bounds 7 yards behind the LOS in these playoffs. It’s make or break for Jalen imho.
But I could be wrong AF, Roll Tide though
I know some of you will say but he’s had two years already to prove it!!!!!! Grrr blah muh muh.(remember only 19 still)
But I really feel that this will be the last draw with Saban if he holds the ball and trots out of bounds 7 yards behind the LOS in these playoffs. It’s make or break for Jalen imho.
But I could be wrong AF, Roll Tide though
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 10:02 am
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:22 am to CrimsonBoz
So Boz, your saying the whole Tua thing was, in your opinion now, a psych op? But you said “Tua would play.” Sounds like the psych op has worked.
It sure worked on me.
I just can’t see Saban participating in such a lame conspiracy. If the prospect of playing against Tua is so scary as to upset Clemson ‘s preparation, then by God, maybe we should actually play him.
Also, why would a package actually be developed, if the plan to play him is all BS?
Your rep is impeccable and it’s good to have a true source on this board. And you don’t owe any explanation. And I appreciate any information you can give. But this whole Tua thing is starting to feel like a bunch of BS. Perhaps someone is pulling your leg on this matter?
It sure worked on me.
I just can’t see Saban participating in such a lame conspiracy. If the prospect of playing against Tua is so scary as to upset Clemson ‘s preparation, then by God, maybe we should actually play him.
Also, why would a package actually be developed, if the plan to play him is all BS?
Your rep is impeccable and it’s good to have a true source on this board. And you don’t owe any explanation. And I appreciate any information you can give. But this whole Tua thing is starting to feel like a bunch of BS. Perhaps someone is pulling your leg on this matter?
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:33 am to River_City_Tider
No that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying he will come in to throw them off. That’s my opinion and my statement of he will play hasn’t changed.
Edit: if he has good success he may stay in who knows. Let’s get in some practice first and I will know more. I’ll know a lot more about the plan once we get further in.
Edit: if he has good success he may stay in who knows. Let’s get in some practice first and I will know more. I’ll know a lot more about the plan once we get further in.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 11:35 am
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:36 am to CrimsonBoz
Once again, I got it wrong and read too much into your comment. Sorry about that.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:43 pm to River_City_Tider
No big, lots of time before the game.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:25 pm to CrimsonBoz
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No that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying he will come in to throw them off. That’s my opinion and my statement of he will play hasn’t changed.
I'm with River City on this. If they're going through all of the trouble to develop a Tua package to "throw them off" then they clearly trust Tua enough with everything on the line. Surely, if Tua succeeds in "throwing them off" he would stay in the game. I mean, why wouldn't he?
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:28 pm to CAbamafan
I guess my point is, the only thing about Tua that could "throw Clemson off" is that he's a great passing QB, so if the coaches trust him enough to pass the ball with it all on the line, they probably trust him enough to take a majority of the snaps
Posted on 12/16/17 at 1:54 pm to CAbamafan
My take on the "throwing off" is that the entire offense will practice 12 or so scripted plays with tua. Tua then runs a hunh "2 min drive" scenario. Thus not giving clemson a chance to get set. If the offense has a penalty then it's scrapped.
Jalen will play most of the game because he will get most of the reps simulating all sorts of looks by the scout team.
Jalen will play most of the game because he will get most of the reps simulating all sorts of looks by the scout team.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:12 pm to Bamadoc
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the entire offense will practice 12 or so scripted plays with tua. Tua then runs a hunh "2 min drive" scenario. Thus not giving clemson a chance to get set. If the offense has a penalty then it's scrapped.
Sorry but that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Has any coach ever done that in the history of football? Put in a better-passing QB just to throw off the opponent for one drive?
If Tua is coming into the game for his superior passing abilities, then clearly the coaches think we'll need a passing game, and clearly they trust Tua to pass the ball on Clemson.
If those two things are true, and Tua performs well, why wouldn't he stay in the game?
Having a passing game isn't a gimmick to throw off the opponent - it's an absolute necessity to playing winning offensive football.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:20 pm to CAbamafan
I was basing this scenario on Boz's "throwing off" statement.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:41 pm to Bamadoc
I know, I'm just trying to use logic to figure out, IF Boz is right, what Tua's role will actually be.
This would be the first time in Saban's 10 years at Alabama that he would pull his starting QB outside of garbage time.
My point boils down to: You wouldn't pull Blake Sims for Jake Coker as a gimmick. Pro-style QBs are not gimmicks. The only reason to put Tua in is if you think our offense needs help in the passing game.
We've seen QBs used as "gimmicks" before, but it's always a more athletic QB coming in to run some read-option or wildcat type stuff. You don't put in a pocket passer as a gimmick
This would be the first time in Saban's 10 years at Alabama that he would pull his starting QB outside of garbage time.
My point boils down to: You wouldn't pull Blake Sims for Jake Coker as a gimmick. Pro-style QBs are not gimmicks. The only reason to put Tua in is if you think our offense needs help in the passing game.
We've seen QBs used as "gimmicks" before, but it's always a more athletic QB coming in to run some read-option or wildcat type stuff. You don't put in a pocket passer as a gimmick
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:52 pm to CAbamafan
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Sorry but that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Has any coach ever done that in the history of football? Put in a better-passing QB just to throw off the opponent for one drive?
Gimmick might not be the right word but if Clemson game plans for Hurts' abilities and then Tua comes in with a different set of abilities then yes, that could catch Clemson off guard. Doesn't matter what the different set abilities are. You prepare for one thing and then have to play another. Alabama did that to Auburn in 2001. They prepared for Tyler Watts and the option game but Andrew Zow played and threw the ball all over them.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 3:57 pm to Swm323
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Gimmick might not be the right word but if Clemson game plans for Hurts' abilities and then Tua comes in with a different set of abilities then yes, that could catch Clemson off guard. Doesn't matter what the different set abilities are. You prepare for one thing and then have to play another. Alabama did that to Auburn in 2001. They prepared for Tyler Watts and the option game but Andrew Zow played and threw the ball all over them.
There's definitely truth to that. To me though, if you're going to use Tua to pass all over Clemson and essentially beat them, it sounds like the coaches are ready to ride Tua to the championship and beyond..
Truly though, having to face a QB that can make all the throws with perfect touch and accuracy, as well as running a 4.6 40 would throw any defense off guard haha
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:21 pm to CAbamafan
Few things, Tua will play is all my source has said. Everything is me making opinions I.e throwing them off, and if Tua has success he will stay in. So for now I don’t know what it looks like, all I know is he will come in the game.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:28 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Few things, Tua will play is all my source has said. Everything is me making opinions I.e throwing them off, and if Tua has success he will stay in. So for now I don’t know what it looks like, all I know is he will come in the game.
Don't sweat it Boz, we appreciate the info. We're all just spit-balling at this point about what might happen in regards to the roles. It's a pretty fascinating storyline
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:32 pm to CrimsonBoz
As always Boz thanks for the info but I'll have to see Tua in the game before I believe this one. I hope I'm wrong and pumped to see what he can do against a legit defense. I just can't see Saban's doing it, but he's surprised me before with his moves (like bringing in Kiffin).
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:38 pm to CAbamafan
Should be interesting, if it does happen, I wonder how prepared Clemson will be. There’s a little bit of film on Tua.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:48 pm to CrimsonBoz
I worry about Clemson's Dline. I'd like Tua to get some snaps, but damn this is gonna be tough.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 4:52 pm to Cobrasize
Well there is no doubt they have an extremely good DL.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 4:53 pm
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