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re: Analytical Review : Possible replacements for the Lil General

Posted on 2/20/19 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Bama323_15
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 6:55 pm to
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We think he’s too nice of a guy, but there are internet rumors out there of him and his wife being verbally abusive within the athletic department.


Continue....
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:00 pm to
Forbes was hell on wheels at Northwest Florida State College in Niceville. He was the NCJAA runner-up 2 of the 3 years he was head coach.

I think Forbes is the safest choice if we can’t get a dream candidate. He reminds me of Rick Moody who also did a few seasons in the Florida Juco scene. I think Forbes would be Wimp 2.0. He’d make the tourney 4 out of 5 years, have a rebuilding year every 5th or so, and make the Sweet Sixteen a realistic goal most years.

Sign him up. His buyout probably ain’t shite.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44376 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:01 pm to
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We think he’s too nice of a guy, but there are internet rumors out there of him and his wife being verbally abusive within the athletic department


I have always read that despite the laid back persona he has cultivated in front of the camera Avery is actually really sensitive to criticism and temperamental, so this wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:46 pm to
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We think he’s too nice of a guy, but there are internet rumors out there of him and his wife being verbally abusive within the athletic department.

Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:03 pm to
Why he’ll be back in the NBA
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18309 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:08 pm to
No Nate Oats?

No TJ Otzelberger?

Hell no to Dawkins. Even if he was successfull at Bama, you have to keep him away from Duke. May as well look at Wes Miller if we wanna take that risk.

I still say Yuklich (Michigan) deserves a look.

Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5899 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:14 pm to
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Prohm, Pitino or Donovan. Make a hire in basketball Saban level


One is not like the others...

Not sure how Prohm is being built up as some sort of hot hire on this board. He’s proven nothing more than being an average coach. Would rather keep Avery another year or two if Prohm was the result of his firing.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 9:18 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62783 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:29 pm to
That's a whole lot of meh in the OP that frankly won't initially rejuvenate a fan base.

Not saying that choosing one of those would be the mistake in the long run, but honestly, it will be sort of a crap shoot that any of these will get it done.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:55 pm to
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No Nate Oats?


Oats has improved Buffalo but he took over a good program from Hurley. They actually dipped significantly his first 2 seasons before rebounding the last 2. And Buffalo was a solid program pre-Hurley too. Again, the idea here was to weed out the coaches who took over already good programs and find guys who have tangibly improved what they inherited.

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No TJ Otzelberger?



Similar to Buffalo - SD State was an established, solid program before Otzelberger got there. They were a really good program under Nagy for the 5 years before he left.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:57 pm to
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That's a whole lot of meh in the OP that frankly won't initially rejuvenate a fan base.

Not saying that choosing one of those would be the mistake in the long run, but honestly, it will be sort of a crap shoot that any of these will get it done.


Eh rejuvenating the fanbase will be done by winning games and proving we have legitimate Basketball coaches. Our last 2 hires have been "exciting" up front. That stuff doesn't matter.

Kermit Davis has rejuvinated Ole Miss because he puts a good product on the floor. That is all that matters.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:02 pm to
Right now anyone besides Avery coaching next season would excite me.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:14 pm to
Yeah, some of those names don’t excite me but with Avery, I know it’s more of the same frustrating shite. Bama basketball is a big enough program that you have to really suck arse to dip much below .500. That mark is almost built in. So you can judge a coach pretty easily with the rule of thumb that .500 means he didn’t do shite to improve the program. A couple of games above means he’s got a pulse and at least knows the game. Anything below .500 and you’ve got a complete idiot on your hands.
Avery is 72-57 for a .563 win percentage and is 8 games above .500 near the end of his 4th season and if he finishes like we project, he’ll be 73-61 at the end of the regular season or exactly 6 games above .500 in 4 years. In other words, he hasn’t done shite other than not completely screw it up.
Posted by droliver
Member since Nov 2012
971 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:07 pm to
Not excited by that list at all. We need another direction then a former Duke retread (Dawkins) or NBA connected guys(Musselman or Thunder Dan M.). Alabama has had a series of misfits going back to Hobbs that have struggled to perform. We need an intense young guy like Pitino or Brad Stevens were when they got their 1st jobs.

I would seriously consider a guy like Bucky McMillan who's about to win his 5th Alabama state 7A HS championship in 7 years at Mtn. Brook HS. He's young. Intense and disciplined. Well connected in AAU and recruiting circles. Runs a very disruptive pressure style of play that would seem to translate to college and the players that can be recruited to Alabama.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18309 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:53 pm to
Throw Patrick Beilein that mix.

LSU hired their coach from VCU, and his resume was weaker than that of Grant and Smart....smh

Xavier loses quality coaches all the time.
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
624 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 3:30 am to
I’m going to put the cart way before the horse here but just for fun what would y’all think if Prohm brought back Hobbs as an assistant?
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 6:50 am to
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Right now anyone besides Avery coaching next season would excite me.


Agreed. Bama basketball could be in worse shape from a win/loss standpoint, but from a coaching and player development perspective it can't get much worse. A coach that is a halfway decent recruiter and an well-rounded basketball coach should be able to have a long career at Alabama. As has been mentioned, UA is a big enough name that it is not that hard to get quality players, and if you know what to do with them when they arrive then the rest takes care of itself. It's NOT too much to ask for Alabama's basketball program to be an annual NCAA tournament team.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:13 am to
I'm not sure based on what we see each week if you could hire any assistant coaches that are worse that what are already on the payroll at Bama. I know Avery is the Man but either he doesn't allow his assistants to assist or they're just as bad as he is. Name one thing this team does well?
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40824 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:12 am to
i agree on Forbes.

It would not be sexy, but it would be a great basketball hire.
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3676 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:17 am to
I don’t understand why I keep seeing Bucky mentioned. The University of Alabama will not and should not hire a high school basketball coach
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5828 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:33 am to
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Prohm brought back Hobbs as an assistant?


Hobbs was a fantastic assistant under Wimp.

No problem from me.
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