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Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:36 pm to FairhopeTider
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:36 pm to FairhopeTider
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But not expecting to be blown out and quit is not nostalgia. It is a baseline standard. The amount of times that has happened in the last 30+ years is in the single digits and 3 of them have now occurred under our $10 million coach and it’s happened on stages where we usually take great pride in excelling: championship stages
We aren’t demanding Saban-era invincibility. We are asking for two things that should translate in any era: compete on the biggest stages and do not quit.
Losing happens. Getting overwhelmed, unprepared, or unraveling when it matters most is not “the landscape.” That is identity.
So yes, reset expectations on outcomes but like hell do we not reset expectations on effort, toughness, and composure. I’ve come to terms with accepting that the “standard” is lowered but a majority of Alabama fans do not, will not, and should not, accept looking like you do not belong. That’s what happened in two of the last three games.
Well said
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:10 pm to 14&Counting
This is where I am as far as a standard. I have always been this way no matter who the coach is.
I don’t want to lose to nobody, no way, no how.
I can grudgingly accept losing if we simply get beat in a fair fight.
I can grudgingly accept losing as bad as we did yesterday if the opponent is that much better than us. 1972 Orange Bowl after the first Wishbone year, Nebraska crushed us 38-6 and they literally were that much better than us, there was zilch we could have done to prevent that. But we showed up and competed.
I can’t accept not showing up, players and coaches, and not competing and we did neither yesterday.
It’s why the Oklahoma game in 2024 always bothered me way more than losing in Nashville. We didn’t show up, we didn’t compete, and it’s now happened twice at utterly crucial moments.
I don’t want to lose to nobody, no way, no how.
I can grudgingly accept losing if we simply get beat in a fair fight.
I can grudgingly accept losing as bad as we did yesterday if the opponent is that much better than us. 1972 Orange Bowl after the first Wishbone year, Nebraska crushed us 38-6 and they literally were that much better than us, there was zilch we could have done to prevent that. But we showed up and competed.
I can’t accept not showing up, players and coaches, and not competing and we did neither yesterday.
It’s why the Oklahoma game in 2024 always bothered me way more than losing in Nashville. We didn’t show up, we didn’t compete, and it’s now happened twice at utterly crucial moments.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:20 pm to FairhopeTider
9 win seasons are really good... said NO ALABAMA FAN EVER...
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:20 pm to Alum69
The worst culture you can have from a coach is being mentally soft. And that sums of Deboer in a nutshell.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:21 pm to Alum69
lol bringing up Bill Curry during the aftermath of a bad loss.
Short memories by this crowd. Definitely laid a brick with this post.
Short memories by this crowd. Definitely laid a brick with this post.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:24 pm to InkStainedWretch
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I can’t accept not showing up, players and coaches, and not competing and we did neither yesterday.
Old Dominion, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn st, Michigan State all gave Indiana a better game than we did. And that was with their best dlineman not hurt.
That is why its so head scratching. It was straight up inexplicable.
But we did the same thing in the first game of the season against a bad team.
DeBoer has to figure out how to get his team to show up with intensity every game no matter the opponent, or he'll get run off next year. Thats all there is to it.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:27 pm to Shocco
You are so stuck on this soft crap.
I guess you still think a coach’s job is to mold young men into productive citizens.
That ship has sailed and ain’t coming back to port.
These are mercenary millionaires performing a public relations function for the university,
And you think it’s bad now, wait until the first group of recruits who had NIL deals in high school … that’s a thing now … come through, you think they’re going to give six s**ts about a coach’s process?
If our fan base continues on this front, combined with the fact that we’re shooting a short stick financially, in 10 years this program will be Nebraska and you could conjure up Nick Saban from 2012 and Paul Bryant from 1961 and make them co-coaches and they aren’t going to stop it.
I guess you still think a coach’s job is to mold young men into productive citizens.
That ship has sailed and ain’t coming back to port.
These are mercenary millionaires performing a public relations function for the university,
And you think it’s bad now, wait until the first group of recruits who had NIL deals in high school … that’s a thing now … come through, you think they’re going to give six s**ts about a coach’s process?
If our fan base continues on this front, combined with the fact that we’re shooting a short stick financially, in 10 years this program will be Nebraska and you could conjure up Nick Saban from 2012 and Paul Bryant from 1961 and make them co-coaches and they aren’t going to stop it.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:33 pm to InkStainedWretch
Discipline and toughness is what works and is the Bama standard. I am not lowering my standards. If you want to kiss kids azzes and cater to their self-absorbed entitlement, go for it. I'd rather have a team that looks like Iowa and Indiana than a team of candy-azzes that you have to coddle while they run the team with their demands.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:35 pm to InkStainedWretch
Just switch to FCS and save money. These people ruin everything they touch, and it's already documented for you.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:36 pm to Shocco
Go for it. Be Dabo, who’s circling the toilet with your attitude. Enjoy irrelevance but by God you can feel good that you’re not giving in to the entitled kids and you’re standing up for toughness and “the Alabama way.”
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:39 pm to InkStainedWretch
It still works and its working for Indiana....You are also mixing issues. Dabo is doing things completely unrelated to my topic.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:40 pm to Shocco
Let’s revisit it in 2027 or so.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:41 pm to Shocco
Indiana literally went and bought one of the best QBs in the portal this past offseason and sniped a great OL off Notre Dame I believe too.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:42 pm to Diego Ricardo
This has nothing to do with NIL or prtals. Do not mix issues.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:49 pm to Shocco
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Discipline and toughness is what works and is the Bama standard. I am not lowering my standards. If you want to kiss kids azzes and cater to their self-absorbed entitlement, go for it.
Your standard? Did you create the standard? Did you play and help create and build it?
You're an old guy who identifies with a winning program who is even more entitled than the players he claims are entitled.
You have done absolutely nothing for the University of Alabama besides criticize. At least these guys you believe are all entitled punks put the work in even though we didn't get the results we wanted.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:51 pm to Shocco
It has to do with old fart fans who fondly remember their coaches making them run gassers without water in 1971 and whose entire self-worth as human beings were tied up in this football team’s accomplishments between 2007 and 2023 and who get off on coaches being drill sergeants to players because they are jealous that they can’t do the same thing to people in real life and who will never accept anyone outside the Southern culture because they still view football as a front in the Civil War.
And I make that silly arse hyperbolic remark at the same time that I am not pleased with our current coach, but it has zilch to do with toughness.
And I make that silly arse hyperbolic remark at the same time that I am not pleased with our current coach, but it has zilch to do with toughness.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:57 pm to InkStainedWretch
Not sure why but you are making this waaay too complicated. Indiana has discipline and plays tough fundamental football as a team. Its the standard set by the coaches who teach toughness. It reflects in their play. You don't always need the best talent. Just get players that want to play to this standard. But the coaches have to set the standard and leadership. AND they have to actually use a gameplan that works. Its this simple; and Deboer doesn't have this. The proof on the field is plain to see.
Beginning to wonder if you can actually respond without taking the issue into right field to try and confuse and water down things.
Beginning to wonder if you can actually respond without taking the issue into right field to try and confuse and water down things.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 7:59 pm to InkStainedWretch
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You are so stuck on this soft crap.
“These athletes are so soft these days”
Usually a 5’8” 237 pound guy with a beer gut who never played a sport and works at Sherwin-Williams
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:09 pm to InkStainedWretch
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It has to do with old fart fans who fondly remember their coaches making them run gassers without water in 1971 and whose entire self-worth as human beings were tied up in this football team’s accomplishments between 2007 and 2023 and who get off on coaches being drill sergeants to players because they are jealous that they can’t do the same thing to people in real life and who will never accept anyone outside the Southern culture because they still view football as a front in the Civil War.
And I make that silly arse hyperbolic remark at the same time that I am not pleased with our current coach, but it has zilch to do with toughness.
Perfectly said
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