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re: Alabama Basketball Megathread | 26-7 (16-2)
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:22 pm to Robot Santa
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:22 pm to Robot Santa
I agree that we have some structural offensive problems, but this game had some huge missed opportunities late:
Shackleford’s transition layup (I’m not even counting the other short-range opportunities he missed, because this one should have been a gimme for a college player)
Reese’s TWO wide open threes.
I am sure that I’m forgetting some other ones.
I think we are a) having some structural offensive problems because of how teams are playing us and b) just struggling in general.
Shackleford’s transition layup (I’m not even counting the other short-range opportunities he missed, because this one should have been a gimme for a college player)
Reese’s TWO wide open threes.
I am sure that I’m forgetting some other ones.
I think we are a) having some structural offensive problems because of how teams are playing us and b) just struggling in general.
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Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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And teams have discovered that and have decided that the most efficient option for them is to give us contested layups at the rim.
And for 3 games it's been effective.
I don't know if it's the cause, but I'm convincing myself Bruner's absence has aided that strategy. I wouldn't call him an elite finisher at the rim for a big guy, but he gives the driver another option if the kick out 3 isn't there. Rojas, Gary, or Reese certainly aren't that option down low, and Herb just doesn't have the big body to do it either.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:23 pm to Crede15
Also, just gotta add how great Lon Kruger is. His programs are so consistent. Great college basketball coach.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:24 pm to Gary Busey
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Those back to back misses from Shack were inexcusable and shut down any momentum we could capture late.
Shack is maybe 6'1" and isn't much of a jumper. He has to put so much loft on his contested layups to avoid them being blocked, it's a wonder he makes any of them. But some of the misses by the bigger guys are inexcusable.
All that said, the sky isn't falling. We were never winning the tournament, but this is still going to be the best season we've had in a very long time. Getting Bruner back will be a big help.
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:24 pm to The Spleen
Bruner was playing at a super high level in the 3-4 games before the injury. Seems like he didn’t miss a 3 that whole run. It will be huge to get him back.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:24 pm to The Spleen
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I don't know if it's the cause, but I'm convincing myself Bruner's absence has aided that strategy. I wouldn't call him an elite finisher at the rim for a big guy, but he gives the driver another option if the kick out 3 isn't there. Rojas, Gary, or Reese certainly aren't that option down low, and Herb just doesn't have the big body to do it either.
I think it definitely hurts.
Bruner can be that secondary kick on a drive either down low or at the free throw line. Without him we're basically 4 guards and 1 forward
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Shack has no ability to do it. Any layup or runner he makes under duress is purely luck. He just flips the ball at the rim.
He's a very limited athlete (there is no vertical aspect to his game), so he can't elevate to the point where he can just kinda lay the ball into the cylinder. It also makes it so easy to guard him without fouling, so he doesn't even get to the line much. Combine that with having pretty much zero touch and he's just not going to make many shots around the basket. At this point Oats needs to kind of accept that Shack is just a 3pt shooter and not let him keep driving to the basket the way he has been this season. If Shack wants to be a playmaker then he needs to transfer to a mid-major where he won't be at such a disadvantage athletically. His game at this level is shooting.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:25 pm to Robot Santa
These last few games, Quinerly has easily been our worst player. Not even close. It’s frustrating. He’s clearly got the talent, but just doesn’t play smart. He’s a walking TO. It’s mind-blowing the difference between him in non-conference versus now. Part of me wonders if it’s some sort of inability to handle the spotlight.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:26 pm to BigBird09
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These last few games, Quinerly has easily been our worst player. Not even close. It’s frustrating. He’s clearly got the talent, but just doesn’t play smart. He’s a walking TO. It’s mind-blowing the difference between him in non-conference versus now. Part of me wonders if it’s some sort of inability to handle the spotlight.
This has been as big an issue as anything else, to be honest.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:26 pm to Teague
Shack’s problem is that he takes too many of those tough shots at the basket. But I agree that the sky isn’t falling.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:30 pm to Crede15
Well guys, seems we've diagnosed the problems. Anyone have Nate's number so we can give him a buzz and give him our take?
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:30 pm to Crede15
To bad we don't have JD this year because we're not getting anything from the PG position. Q has gotten worse.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:30 pm to Crede15
I don't blame this loss on Shack. He and Reese were the leading scorers. Petty, Primo, and Quinerly all having bad games offensively was a bigger issue. Getting outrebounded was huge too.
Shack scored 21 last game and 14 today, he is keeping us in these games on offense imo. Petty is obviously in a slump and Primo isn't scoring much either.
Shack scored 21 last game and 14 today, he is keeping us in these games on offense imo. Petty is obviously in a slump and Primo isn't scoring much either.
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:32 pm to BigBird09
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He’s clearly got the talent, but just doesn’t play smart. He’s a walking TO.
His body language shows a complete lack of confidence.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:32 pm to Magnum73
Yea & a lot of times Shack drives to the basket throws up a prayer. Oats needs to put a stop to that because it's a wasted possession.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:32 pm to BigBird09
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These last few games, Quinerly has easily been our worst player. Not even close. It’s frustrating. He’s clearly got the talent, but just doesn’t play smart. He’s a walking TO. It’s mind-blowing the difference between him in non-conference versus now. Part of me wonders if it’s some sort of inability to handle the spotlight
Yeah it's pretty disappointing what he's become. He's supposed to have our best handles, and yet can even get past a guy one-on-one without fumbling the ball out of his hands. To make matters worse, he's not a good defender.
We didn't need him to be Kira or Releford either. He just needed to be a good facilitator and be able to drive and break down the defense.
Not having a true PG is hurting this team more than not having Bruner. Hopefully JD Davison will fill that role next year.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:33 pm to CrimsonFever
It rarely makes sense to blame a loss on one player. I certainly don’t blame him for it. I just didn’t know why we went away from Herb at the end of the game.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:33 pm to Gary Busey
One of the biggest issues with JQ being bad is we have to take him off the floor and make one of our 3P threats run the point, which is like 2x the problem.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:33 pm to BigBird09
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These last few games, Quinerly has easily been our worst player. Not even close. It’s frustrating. He’s clearly got the talent, but just doesn’t play smart. He’s a walking TO. It’s mind-blowing the difference between him in non-conference versus now. Part of me wonders if it’s some sort of inability to handle the spotlight.
He's undersized and I think he has let it get into his head at this point. He doesn't want to have one of his shots swatted into the 4th row, so he gets caught in between going to the basket and making a pass all the time, and he inevitably ends up making a bad decision and committing a turnover in those situations.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:35 pm to Gary Busey
It looks like Nate is basically going to use the first half of games to see if Quinerly “has it”, and if he doesn’t he just won’t play too much in the second half (if it’s close).
He certainly had it versus LSU (and several other games).
He certainly had it versus LSU (and several other games).
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