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re: Alabama Basketball Megathread | 26-7 (16-2)
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:37 am to Chadaristic
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:37 am to Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:39 am to Chadaristic
Would have loved to see Antonio McDyess play in this system too. He was so athletic
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:43 am to Bear88
I would love to see Tony Mitchell in this offense. He and Herb together...... Whoa!
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:11 am to mre
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Whew, only making six buckets in a half and still beating a talented team like Kentucky
Which a lot of people are failing to realize. UK I'm going to assume has at least 6 5 stars on roster. Just because they haven't been playing like it didn't mean they are incapable.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 10:12 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:13 am to solus
From T-Rank - looking at how teams have been playing recently. Kentucky has been a Top 35 team and Top 4 team in the league for the last 3 weeks.
T-Rank (1-6-21 to 1-27-21)
LAST 6 WEEKS (since 12-16-20) - Overall (record) (Off Eff/Def Eff)
4. Alabama (10-1) (11/8)
27. Tennessee (8-3) (65/18)
34. Florida (5-3) (19/112)
37. Auburn (6-5) (34/77)
40. Missouri (5-3) (87/26)
53. LSU (7-3) (13/188)
55. Kentucky (4-6) (124/24)
56. Ole Miss (5-6) (133/23)
60. Arkansas (6-4) (55/92)
66. Mississippi St (6-5) (70/70)
101. Georgia (4-5) (67/174)
117. South Carolina (2-3) (112/158)
146. Vanderbilt (2-7) (83/243)
149. Texas A&M (3-6) (231/89)
LAST 3 WEEKS (since 1-6-21) - Overall (record) (Off Eff/Def Eff)
4. Alabama (6-0) (10/11)
15. Missouri (3-1) (21/46)
27. Auburn (4-3) (32/68)
33. Kentucky (2-4) (126/20)
36. Florida (3-2) (29/106)
55. Ole Miss (3-3) (138/37)
59. LSU (5-2) (22/165)
70. Tennessee (4-2) (121/55)
77. Arkansas (3-3) (93/82)
87. Mississippi St (2-4) (131/69)
101. South Carolina (1-3) (82/142)
105. Georgia (2-4) (52/185)
154. Vanderbilt (0-3) (45/295)
175. Texas A&M (1-5) (241/121)
LAST 2 WEEKS (since 1-13-21) - Overall (record) (Off Eff/Def Eff)
3. Alabama (4-0) (16/8)
14. Florida (2-1) (22/51)
15. Auburn (4-1) (23/55)
18. Missouri (3-1) (28/56)
43. Kentucky (1-3) (172/22)
44. Ole Miss (2-1) (102/32)
83. Mississippi State (1-4) (165/54)
92. LSU (3-2) (38/214)
93. Georgia (2-2) (42/203)
111. Tennessee (2-2) (229/48)
125. Arkansas (2-2) (184/88)
135. Texas A&M (1-3) (226/74)
144. South Carolina (0-3) (82/216)
179. Vanderbilt (0-2) (80/267)
T-Rank (1-6-21 to 1-27-21)
LAST 6 WEEKS (since 12-16-20) - Overall (record) (Off Eff/Def Eff)
4. Alabama (10-1) (11/8)
27. Tennessee (8-3) (65/18)
34. Florida (5-3) (19/112)
37. Auburn (6-5) (34/77)
40. Missouri (5-3) (87/26)
53. LSU (7-3) (13/188)
55. Kentucky (4-6) (124/24)
56. Ole Miss (5-6) (133/23)
60. Arkansas (6-4) (55/92)
66. Mississippi St (6-5) (70/70)
101. Georgia (4-5) (67/174)
117. South Carolina (2-3) (112/158)
146. Vanderbilt (2-7) (83/243)
149. Texas A&M (3-6) (231/89)
LAST 3 WEEKS (since 1-6-21) - Overall (record) (Off Eff/Def Eff)
4. Alabama (6-0) (10/11)
15. Missouri (3-1) (21/46)
27. Auburn (4-3) (32/68)
33. Kentucky (2-4) (126/20)
36. Florida (3-2) (29/106)
55. Ole Miss (3-3) (138/37)
59. LSU (5-2) (22/165)
70. Tennessee (4-2) (121/55)
77. Arkansas (3-3) (93/82)
87. Mississippi St (2-4) (131/69)
101. South Carolina (1-3) (82/142)
105. Georgia (2-4) (52/185)
154. Vanderbilt (0-3) (45/295)
175. Texas A&M (1-5) (241/121)
LAST 2 WEEKS (since 1-13-21) - Overall (record) (Off Eff/Def Eff)
3. Alabama (4-0) (16/8)
14. Florida (2-1) (22/51)
15. Auburn (4-1) (23/55)
18. Missouri (3-1) (28/56)
43. Kentucky (1-3) (172/22)
44. Ole Miss (2-1) (102/32)
83. Mississippi State (1-4) (165/54)
92. LSU (3-2) (38/214)
93. Georgia (2-2) (42/203)
111. Tennessee (2-2) (229/48)
125. Arkansas (2-2) (184/88)
135. Texas A&M (1-3) (226/74)
144. South Carolina (0-3) (82/216)
179. Vanderbilt (0-2) (80/267)
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:19 am to MontyFranklyn
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We also have not been dominant at shooting threes in the past couple of games. We are a live by the three die by the three team.
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If we go back to lighting up from long range, we will know that the length of State and Kentucky hits our efficiency hard. I will expect the remaining of the schedule to try and replicate it.
I think it’s really more important that we’re able to be effective on drives to the basket. I interpreted those statistics to mean UK and State gave use problems because we weren’t effective in the lane and off the dribble. They had big, long, athletic bigs that defended drives and closed up outside passing options. It’s a bit of a domino effect in our offense. If we aren’t successful inside and at the rim, the shooters aren’t getting as many good looks.
I’m not terribly worried about the offense right now because as SOG pointed out, not a lot of teams have that type of length and athleticism along with a willingness to play tough post defense for a full game. I fully expect to see an offense we’re more accustomed to watching in the next few games.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 10:21 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:22 am to CaptainMorgan
So we looked lost offensively at times and still won by 10+. Sign me up for a sweet 16 run. Most of those teams in the early rounds will be atrocious defensively.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:30 am to CaptainMorgan
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I think it’s really more important that we’re able to be effective on drives to the basket. I interpreted those statistics to mean UK and State gave use problems because we weren’t effective in the lane and off the dribble. They had big, long, athletic bigs that defended drives and closed up outside passing options. It’s a bit of a domino effect in our offense. If we aren’t successful inside and at the rim, the shooters aren’t getting as many good looks.
Bingo - the reason State and Kentucky were ABLE to not collapse on the dribble drive is because they could somewhat effectively challenge us at the rim with their length and athleticism without a helper. Even then, they gave up layups and they fouled A LOT. However, they were fine with both those things, because it meant 2 not 3 and fouls also mean slowing the game down.
HOWEVER.........
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I’m not terribly worried about the offense right now because as SOG pointed out, not a lot of teams have that type of length and athleticism along with a willingness to play tough post defense for a full game. I fully expect to see an offense we’re more accustomed to watching in the next few games.
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I'm not sure it's just "oh no big deal those were weird matchups", but I also don't think it's OMG THE BOOK IS OUT WE'RE DOOMED, because there are very few teams who can run that book.
It's like a defense in football who can drop 7 into coverage from their front 4 gets pressure. That all sounds great, but if other teams don't have your front 4 that gets pressure, they can't run that same approach.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:48 am to solus
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Which a lot of people are failing to realize. UK I'm going to assume has at least 6 5 stars on roster. Just because they haven't been playing like it didn't mean they are incapable.
Ehhhhh, not quite. I mean yes they do have their typical assortment of 5*s, but literally not a single one of them is a well rounded basketball player. They're all total disasters on one or both ends of the court. They have talent in terms of recruiting rankings but that's about it.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:49 am to Robot Santa
They're a pretty good defensive team.
They're a flaming dumpster of an offensive team.
They're a flaming dumpster of an offensive team.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm not sure it's just "oh no big deal those were weird matchups", but I also don't think it's OMG THE BOOK IS OUT WE'RE DOOMED, because there are very few teams who can run that book.
It's like a defense in football who can drop 7 into coverage from their front 4 gets pressure. That all sounds great, but if other teams don't have your front 4 that gets pressure, they can't run that same approach.
Definitely. I wasn’t trying to sound completely nonchalant about it. I think it’s still something we need to address and be ready for down the road because it’s proven to be an effective way to disrupt our offensive game and kill our tempo, but I’m not worried to the point that “everyone has figured us out” or “we’re going to grind out wins the rest of the season”.
I know it’s been said a lot over the past few weeks, but it would also be really nice to have Bruner and even Reese active and healthy for those types of games. The young guys played well, but the mental mistakes add up in a tight game.
I’m sure Oats and Company are aware of all of this anyway. He said as much in his press conference last night. If we can get some guys healthy and reestablish that inside presence, we can get back to playing the type of ball that jump started our season. I expect that’s exactly what Oats is going to try to do.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:50 am to CaptainMorgan
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Definitely. I wasn’t trying to sound completely nonchalant about it.
Oh I know you weren't - I wasn't using that to respond to you, just making a general comment about level of concern.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:51 am to Chadaristic
Football
Bama 13-0 (10-0)
Auburn 6-5 (6-4)
Tennessee 3-7 (3-7)
LSU 5-5 (5-5)
Basketball
Bama 14-3 (9-0)
Auburn 10-7 (4-5)
Tennessee 11-3 (5-3)
LSU 11-4 (6-3)
Totals:
Bama: 27-3 (19-0)
Idiots: 46-31 (29-27)
Bama 13-0 (10-0)
Auburn 6-5 (6-4)
Tennessee 3-7 (3-7)
LSU 5-5 (5-5)
Basketball
Bama 14-3 (9-0)
Auburn 10-7 (4-5)
Tennessee 11-3 (5-3)
LSU 11-4 (6-3)
Totals:
Bama: 27-3 (19-0)
Idiots: 46-31 (29-27)
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:52 am to Glorious
It is, dare I say,
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Glorious
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
Kinda wanna enhance by only including Power 5/Power 6
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
Gotcha 
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:54 am to solus
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Which a lot of people are failing to realize. UK I'm going to assume has at least 6 5 stars on roster. Just because they haven't been playing like it didn't mean they are incapable.
Kentucky is top 15 in defensive efficiency, and have a ton of length. There aren't many defenses in the country that can slow us down the way Kentucky did, they had a great plan and executed it perfectly.
We still found a way to win though, just as we did vs Tennessee, who has a top 5 defense.
When we play good defenses it's gonna be harder to do whatever we want to on offense obviously.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 10:58 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:55 am to CaptainMorgan
Also agree with what you said about Oats seeing it. One of my favorite things about him is how bluntly he gives his assessment post game, regardless of outcome of the game.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:57 am to SummerOfGeorge
I mostly agree, but I’m not exactly sure what was happening in the 2nd half though. It’s not like the majority of our threes in the first half were bad shots, we just weren’t hitting them. And it’s not like UK played drastically different on defense in the 2nd half. I just don’t understand why our game plan changed, when it has worked so well for us during this stretch. I wouldn’t say it’s a huge concern, but if there is any questions about this team that arise after last night, it’s will we stick to our bread and butter when shots aren’t falling or will we completely change our plan of attack?
My personal guess is that Oats, knowing he was short-handed, and the guys that were playing were banged up early tried to slow the game down and win at the FT line given he knew that attacking UK’s physical defense would get them there. It worked and we won, so I’m okay with the result.
My personal guess is that Oats, knowing he was short-handed, and the guys that were playing were banged up early tried to slow the game down and win at the FT line given he knew that attacking UK’s physical defense would get them there. It worked and we won, so I’m okay with the result.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:59 am to BigBird09
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My personal guess is that Oats, knowing he was short-handed, and the guys that were playing were banged up early tried to slow the game down and win at the FT line given he knew that attacking UK’s physical defense would get them there. It worked and we won, so I’m okay with the result.
Agree - the whole 4 baseline iso at the top thing was very strange. But it was clearly deliberate, so it had to have a purpose behind it and what you guessed seems like the most reasonable reason.
And we didn't do it the whole half, so it might also have been a combo of getting to the line plus not having personel on the floor we trusted to run our more normal stuff. Petty had foul issues, no Bruner, no Rojas, JQ mentally lost.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 11:01 am
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