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re: Alabama Basketball Megathread | 26-7 (16-2)
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:18 am to Teague
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:18 am to Teague
It’s true, we only hit 6 baskets in the second half. Alabama regressed to Stanford form last night and if Kentucky had an offense, we’d be sitting here talking about a loss. Not sure what exactly has changed the last two games but we aren’t playing well on the offensive end. Nate is right, he’s got to get that figured out. If I had to venture a guess, Quinerly isn’t playing well and isn’t distributing to the open man and we’re not getting good looks. I dunno, I just know we’ve got to figure it out or there’s about to be a 4 game stretch of .500 ball or worse.
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:20 am to East Coast Band
Looking for data points that might suggest teams that could replicate what Kentucky and Mississippi State did defensively (which is I'm sure something that Oats and Co. are doing as they watch film and figure out countermeasures). I really think it comes down to the ability of State/Kentucky to be long and athletic and comfortable guarding our penetrating guard/forward without helping. They are ok getting called for some fouls, as they think that trade-off is preferable to helping, and giving up open 3's off of kick-outs to the free man. But, to do that, you have to be long enough AND athletic enough to be able to not give up layups every time you get beat off the dribble.
Average Height Nationally/Average Block Rate/Effective FG D
Kentucky - #5 / #7 / #34
Mississippi State - #6 / #18 / #109
Remaining Teams Height/Block Rate
Oklahoma - #148 / #96 / #140
LSU - #81 / #209 / #138
Missouri - #70 / #194 / #17
South Carolina - #88 / #142 / #265
Georgia - #295 / #309 / #221
Texas A&M - #109 / #254 / #254
Vanderbilt - #144 / #285 / #262
Arkansas - #48 / #23 / #82
Mississippi St - #6 / #18 / #109
Auburn - #11 / #6 / #111
There really aren't even many teams on our schedule who can, at their best and our worst, attempt to replicate the way Kentucky played last night. State, Auburn, and Arkansas are probably the closest.
Average Height Nationally/Average Block Rate/Effective FG D
Kentucky - #5 / #7 / #34
Mississippi State - #6 / #18 / #109
Remaining Teams Height/Block Rate
Oklahoma - #148 / #96 / #140
LSU - #81 / #209 / #138
Missouri - #70 / #194 / #17
South Carolina - #88 / #142 / #265
Georgia - #295 / #309 / #221
Texas A&M - #109 / #254 / #254
Vanderbilt - #144 / #285 / #262
Arkansas - #48 / #23 / #82
Mississippi St - #6 / #18 / #109
Auburn - #11 / #6 / #111
There really aren't even many teams on our schedule who can, at their best and our worst, attempt to replicate the way Kentucky played last night. State, Auburn, and Arkansas are probably the closest.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 7:27 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:22 am to phil4bama
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or there’s about to be a 4 game stretch of .500 ball or worse
If we win 2 of our next 4 that's a couple more Q1/2 wins, a couple of Q1/2 losses, and we're sitting at 16-5 going into the weakest part of our schedule. I mean that pretty much takes the slim possibility of a 1 seed off the table but it's not exactly a disaster scenario.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:28 am to Robot Santa
Kentucky is also the #2 best defensive team we've played all year behind Tennessee. Just because we hit them with a barrage in game 1 doesn't mean they aren't a good defensive team.
Defensive Efficiency
#2 Tennessee
#12 Kentucky
#16 Ole Miss
#28 Missouri
Auburn post-Cooper is on an offensive heater, and Kentucky held them to 66 pts - by far the least they've put up since Cooper showed up.
Defensive Efficiency
#2 Tennessee
#12 Kentucky
#16 Ole Miss
#28 Missouri
Auburn post-Cooper is on an offensive heater, and Kentucky held them to 66 pts - by far the least they've put up since Cooper showed up.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 7:30 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:31 am to SummerOfGeorge
Yeah there was some discussion about it the other day, but the SEC is actually a pretty decent defensive league. It's just that a lot of the good defensive teams are also epic dumpster fires on offense and bad teams overall so it doesn't necessarily seem that way.
Side note: Oats needs to lobby the refs hard about Cooper's tendency to lower his shoulder or use his off ball forearm to clear out defenders. He's sneaky about it because of how quick he is, but he commits a ton of offensive fouls that get called blocks.
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Auburn post-Cooper is on an offensive heater, and Kentucky held them to 66 pts - by far the least they've put up since Cooper showed up.
Side note: Oats needs to lobby the refs hard about Cooper's tendency to lower his shoulder or use his off ball forearm to clear out defenders. He's sneaky about it because of how quick he is, but he commits a ton of offensive fouls that get called blocks.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 7:35 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 7:49 am to East Coast Band
With the barn's win over Mizzou, bama has a full 3 game lead over the field in the SEC standings. That's just amazing.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:11 am to biclops
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:12 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:17 am to biclops
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Dan Gavitt to @GoodmanHoops on the controlled environment. "A bubble is only as good as your discipline within it."
And what if there's a positive test? Or a team on a pause?
"It's not really an event you can pause or postpone."
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:20 am to Chadaristic
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"It's not really an event you can pause or postpone."
Pretty much true. So basically there will be forfeits or replacement teams if a team can't go? And if 1-2 players are out due to "contact tracing" that team just has to play without them?
Makes sense but kinda harsh.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:22 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:42 am to biclops
Probably not possible but Could the NCAA drop serious cash and just get everyone vaccinated before the tournament so we don’t face these problems?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:44 am to biclops
What if the players get vaccinated? Seems like the universities could pull some strings for just a few dozen people involved with the program
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:55 am to mistaken4193
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I hope Trendon Watford looks at where we are and where they are and regrets his decision EVERY frickING DAY. Especially his fricking sister who after we beat them last year was on twitter saying shite like “Good Luck in the NIT”
Bucky can get it too.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:57 am to phil4bama
Phil, I think what we are going to find out is that some teams have figured out a defensive scheme to slow down what we have been doing on offense. KY played, at least for a while, what looked to me like an old box and one against petty. But generally, MS State and KY looked to guard all people out almost to the half court and force us to break that press with the dribble drive. Since we were so far out, it gives off-ball guys time to adjust. The bigs rotate to address the dribble drive while others seek to take away spray lanes once a player gets into the lane. The increases in turnovers weakens our confidence and commitment to the scheme. Guys try to force the ball to the rim, get blocked, have the ball stripped, or put up a poor shot.
We also have not been dominant at shooting threes in the past couple of games. We are a live by the three die by the three team. Fortunately, we also have a great defense. Also, free throw shooting is better. We have more shooters getting fouled instead of ham-handed bigs.
Oats will asses this recognized weakness and look to get it fixed. Fortunately, we have still been able to win. And fortunately, we will eventually get some bigs back.
We also have not been dominant at shooting threes in the past couple of games. We are a live by the three die by the three team. Fortunately, we also have a great defense. Also, free throw shooting is better. We have more shooters getting fouled instead of ham-handed bigs.
Oats will asses this recognized weakness and look to get it fixed. Fortunately, we have still been able to win. And fortunately, we will eventually get some bigs back.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:58 am to biclops
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:10 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Looking for data points that might suggest teams that could replicate what Kentucky and Mississippi State did defensively (which is I'm sure something that Oats and Co. are doing as they watch film and figure out countermeasures). I really think it comes down to the ability of State/Kentucky to be long and athletic and comfortable guarding our penetrating guard/forward without helping. They are ok getting called for some fouls, as they think that trade-off is preferable to helping, and giving up open 3's off of kick-outs to the free man. But, to do that, you have to be long enough AND athletic enough to be able to not give up layups every time you get beat off the dribble.
Average Height Nationally/Average Block Rate/Effective FG D
Kentucky - #5 / #7 / #34
Mississippi State - #6 / #18 / #109
Remaining Teams Height/Block Rate
Oklahoma - #148 / #96 / #140
LSU - #81 / #209 / #138
Missouri - #70 / #194 / #17
South Carolina - #88 / #142 / #265
Georgia - #295 / #309 / #221
Texas A&M - #109 / #254 / #254
Vanderbilt - #144 / #285 / #262
Arkansas - #48 / #23 / #82
Mississippi St - #6 / #18 / #109
Auburn - #11 / #6 / #111
There really aren't even many teams on our schedule who can, at their best and our worst, attempt to replicate the way Kentucky played last night. State, Auburn, and Arkansas are probably the closest.
Good analytics. Will be interesting to see how we play against OU on Saturday. If we go back to lighting up from long range, we will know that the length of State and Kentucky hits our efficiency hard. I will expect the remaining of the schedule to try and replicate it.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:13 am to Chadaristic
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Not sure why you remember that one shot so vividly, but Levi was a solid 3P shooter at Alabama. He would've awesome in an Oats offense.
Kennedy Winston, Chuck Davis, and Ronald Steele are 3 that immediately come to mind for me. Guys that never really played in the NBA but I think would’ve been a force in this offense. Davis was a savant in the post.
Retin Obasohan (senior version) and Trever Releford would’ve been great point guards in this system
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 9:16 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:22 am to mistaken4193
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Probably not possible but Could the NCAA drop serious cash and just get everyone vaccinated before the tournament so we don’t face these problems?
I think the optics of moving college athletes to the front of the line just to get a basketball tournament in would be terrible, so I fully expect the NCAA to try to do it.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:28 am to The Spleen
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I think the optics of moving college athletes to the front of the line just to get a basketball tournament in would be terrible, so I fully expect the NCAA to try to do it.
Not as bad as Congress moving themselves to the front of the line.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:33 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Chuck Davis
One of my all time favorites.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:37 am to Chadaristic
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The Alabama men’s basketball team beat Kentucky @ home on Tuesday night. The win was the Tide’s 10th consecutive – the longest winning streak since the 1996-97 season – & gave the Tide a season sweep over the Cats for the first time in 32 years dating back to the 1988-89 season.
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