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Posted by Freight Joker
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Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 5:47 am to
Heck of a job this year by Vaughn and the team !
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 7:16 am to
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Heck of a job this year by Vaughn and the team !


Guy is a fantastic coach, and we are blessed to have him!

Nice little article in the Tuscaloosa News about him: LINK
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 7:18 am to
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40 wins for the first time in 23 years?
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Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:25 am to
Posted by mrbroker
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:52 am to
Was at a Troy game last night with friends and just saw the stat line. Ozmer gave up 4 runs in one inning. No dam game and lead is safe with any arms out of the BP. Anyone see the game and can shed light on what happened?

Myers had a good BP appearance. Could he be the closer going forward?
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:26 am to
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Myers had a good BP appearance. Could he be the closer going forward?

Myers also faced three hitters on Thursday and gave up two hits and a walk.

It's a coin flip with any of these guys in the bullpen.
Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:27 am to
He struggled in his second inning. He has been one of the best in the nation this year. He isn’t going to be moved imo.
Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:31 am to
Ozmer is obviously the guy there. The problem is he doesn't challenge the opponent with velo, so if he's not spotting multiple pitches it's hard for him to get outs against SEC lineups. The other side of that, is the fact that he's not throwing 95 probably allows him to do things like he did last week when he came in and saved two games in one day. The good thing for us is more often than not he has been able to spot multiple pitches. We need him to be good these next couple of weeks.
This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 10:33 am
Posted by UAgrad93
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:44 am to
It’s more of JJ being too hard headed in some instances when it comes to bullpen guys. This guy gets a longer leash, while others don’t. Disappointed that JJ hasn’t developed the arms we have on staff. Just my opinion, but I felt he should’ve went with Myers in the 8th, since his previous inning had been clean. Bring Ozmer in only if needed. Burning your closer for 2 innings in a 7 run game wasn’t very wise.
Posted by mrbroker
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 10:50 am to
no reason to pull Myers after 7 and since it was not a save situation you ride with Myers. I did not watch the game at all but were they hitting Myers hard even though he gave up no runs
Posted by UAgrad93
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:00 am to
2 innnings of work 26 pitches 6 batters faced with 3 Ks.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:04 am to
So why pull him for Ozmer if there was not a save situation? makes no sense right?
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:35 am to
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Ozmer is obviously the guy there. The problem is he doesn't challenge the opponent with velo, so if he's not spotting multiple pitches it's hard for him to get outs against SEC lineups. The other side of that, is the fact that he's not throwing 95 probably allows him to do things like he did last week when he came in and saved two games in one day. The good thing for us is more often than not he has been able to spot multiple pitches. We need him to be good these next couple of weeks.


This is a good analysis.

Ozmer is a more than capable pitcher, but indeed he must spot up pitches. He seems to have a little trouble doing it for multiple innings and for whatever reason, lately, big leads have been difficult for him. This is a small sample size though. Killer velo can be a limiter too, as guys start to rely too much on it, but it is certainly nice to have.

Two things I saw last night.

1) The umpire squeezed the pitchers pretty bad. I mean he missed SEVERAL obvious strikes for both sides.

2) It seems some teams have decided to look to the corners, especially away, and look to play singles baseball with him. A single, walk, hit batsman and then a flare and seeing eye grounder and there's three runs scored with two on. It is possible that he needs to establish that he will throw inside a bit more.

I wonder if he is somehow tipping his pitches. Second time teams see him, there is trouble.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:39 am to
I don't know that it's being hard headed as much as it's the reality of having seen these other guys throw for 55 games now and trusting who you trust. Guys that have proven they can get outs get more chances and a longer leash than other guys. Also, situation and matchups come into play.

We threw a lot of guys early in the year. Most of them, unfortunately, showed that they were not reliable.

I can't speak too much to yesterday's game because I wasn't able to watch, but I can't fault a coach too much for trying to make sure a win is secure. Realistically, seven runs up with some of the guys we have in the bullpen isn't a sure thing.
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:01 pm to
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inning. No dam game and lead is safe with any arms out of the BP.


I mean last nights lead was pretty safe haha.
Posted by UAgrad93
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:33 pm to
I think it’s the lack of development by JJ to be honest.
Posted by Freight Joker
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 12:41 pm to
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I think it’s the lack of development by JJ to be honest.


Fact

Random thought.

Oz gave up an 0-2 hit last night if I’m not mistaken

Myers gave up an 0-2 double Thursday to his first batter.

The last ten 0-2 hits I’ve witnessed in college or MLB all have one thing in common.

Alabama and Jason Jackson

Fricking get the ball out of the damn zone on 0-2 and try to make somebody chase or set them up for a good 1-2 pitch.
This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 12:42 pm
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:15 pm to
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I think it’s the lack of development by JJ to be honest


I think his developing pitchers has been quite good. We have routinely been relegated to taking guys who are projects. Quick was one. He was quite bad his first two years and then became a stud. He has done pretty well with what he’s had. We have just won 40 games for the first time since the Jim Wells era.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16426 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 2:37 pm to
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I think it’s the lack of development by JJ to be honest.


So, what does that mean? They should pitch more in games to develop? That seems to be your suggestion based on the previous post. Maybe you think he has better arm talent at his disposal than his results would show?

I don't know. When I look at our arms compared to other teams in the league I don't see great arm talent comparatively. Maybe he's not doing enough to work with the couple of guys who do seem to have it? Maybe we need to recruit better.
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