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Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:32 pm to GoodTalkRuss
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:32 pm to GoodTalkRuss
Very well written post with great examples. Just baffling coaching mistakes all over the place today.
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Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:42 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Even Saban had a bad day every so often on the sideline. Oats is not a chump but he got out-managed a bit at the end of each half but crucially the players made a lot of mistakes in their own right.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:44 pm to GoodTalkRuss
Good post.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:44 pm to GoodTalkRuss
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our coaching staff needs to heighten their awareness in some of these moments
I have seen quality timeouts in both basketball and football knowing that is what distinguishes good from great coaches.
You have to squeeze everything out of of every player for every moment.
95% of the time it probably won't matter, but then again these are the types of games that exemplify who is good and who is great.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:39 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Even Saban had a bad day every so often on the sideline. Oats is not a chump but he got out-managed a bit at the end of each half but crucially the players made a lot of mistakes in their own right.
Saban learned from errors made in games we won, all the time. He had very few coaching hindrances that he repeated (TO use and being too analytical vs. understanding flow of the game were ironically also part of his weaknesses, but not nearly as bad as Oats…Saban was relentless on preparing for all scenarios that could happen in a game). I haven’t seen Oats learn from mistakes made in wins very often, and he seems to forget the mistakes made in losses after enough time…learn from history or you’re bound to repeat it.
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:42 pm to bamagoat
Predictions for next season
Starters
Portal - Wrightsell - Reid - Mo D - Sherrell
Bench
Holloway - Mallette - Cunningham - Jemison - Portal
Portal - Hannah - Allen - Portal
Starters
Portal - Wrightsell - Reid - Mo D - Sherrell
Bench
Holloway - Mallette - Cunningham - Jemison - Portal
Portal - Hannah - Allen - Portal
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:13 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Saban learned from errors made in games we won, all the time. He had very few coaching hindrances that he repeated (TO use and being too analytical vs. understanding flow of the game were ironically also part of his weaknesses, but not nearly as bad as Oats…Saban was relentless on preparing for all scenarios that could happen in a game). I haven’t seen Oats learn from mistakes made in wins very often, and he seems to forget the mistakes made in losses after enough time…learn from history or you’re bound to repeat it.
This seems to be a thing in basketball a bit more likely to happen because of the game having more flow of continuous action and more games played too.
You slip up and have a bad lineup in because you think you may need to keep the timeout...then you crucially put a freshman guard as the inbounder when the opponent has been forcing you to put it in over size all game. Probably should have considered putting Nelson on that inbound but regardless the freshman didn't understand the timeout situation. Probably should have been told to look for 1 then 2 then TO...another slip up. Then the entire inbound defense was disorganized and allowed just about the easiest opportunity for a half court heave one could hope for at the end of a half.
Oats really should take the blame on this one but the players fricked up a good bit too. Nelson's idiotic contest really started this unraveling. Imagine if he'd just let that mfer shoot his shot? They probably end up just fouling Sears a bunch and Alabama winning the game in the low 80s final score.
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:25 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Nelson's idiotic contest really started this unraveling. Imagine if he'd just let that mfer shoot his shot?
The one that Grant was straight vertical on and Oats called a tough call in his presser?
Don’t think that was Grant’s fault…he did exactly what he should have done
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:01 pm to PBD4BAMA
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Don’t choke on it
Lucky for you, I made it back. Actually, they were gracious hosts ..
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:42 pm to bamabonners
Nate Oats blew this game. At least he took responsibility but this was the lowest moment of his tenure here. Still believe in this team and think we can make it back to the Final Four. RTR
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:10 am to CrimsonTider98
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Nate Oats blew this game. At least he took responsibility but this was the lowest moment of his tenure here. Still believe in this team and think we can make it back to the Final Four. RTR
Absolutely. I came away from the game torn. I was super pissed and disappointed and I felt like the coaches got caught up in the moment and made some very basic errors, but I would take this Bama team to war every day of the week. I know after losing 3 of the past 6 a lot are concerned, but I see a team that is getting more dangerous.
Defense is so much better in the past 2 weeks and the effort is sky high. Offensively Philon, while still making some bad plays in the moment, is becoming a huge factor. Sears is just a gamer we are lucky to have, Grant's offense is struggling but he had rebounds on 5 different occasions yesterday in the last 5 minutes that were game changers where he just wanted it more than anybody on the court. He looked like NCAA tourney Grant in those moments, Mo is becoming a tank. Jarin, while still not who I want on the low block late in close games, is undeniably giving us a boost with his shooting and defense in key moments. Cliff, feels like he is making strides. He is still frustrating, but he is finally becoming a bit of a force underneath defensively and gets some rebounds in traffic. Aden makes big shots when we need big shots.
I still feel like YB is on the learning curve about the speed and physicality required against elite teams, but no denying he can be explosive.
Long winded post, but in a nutshell, we haven't hit our ceiling. We are taking a few lumps, but the players are swinging like hell and fighting. Did they make some mistakes yesterday, of course, but I like this team more today than I did a month ago when they had a better record.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 6:11 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:20 am to BamaBravesPackers
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Nelson's idiotic contest really started this unraveling. Imagine if he'd just let that mfer shoot his shot?
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The one that Grant was straight vertical on and Oats called a tough call in his presser? Don’t think that was Grant’s fault…he did exactly what he should have done
I think you guys are both right. I thought it was a good contest, straight vertical and the offensive player engaged contact. Up 4 with 36 seconds, you still have to play defense
But no denying, we have a history of infamously giving up and 1 plays late in games where maybe you just get your hands up but don't give the refs a chance to blow the whistle. That said, i thought that was unlucky all the way around, Gainey kind of threw up a prayer and somehow it went in over good defense. As has been mentioned before by others, Grant has an unbelievable knack for forcing extremely tough shots, yet they always seem to go in
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 6:23 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:31 am to mistaken4193
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I know why Jarin was in the game because Nate thought we was gonna be in a make FT situation…but Cliff is just as reliable as Jarin at the FT line.
Mo shoots a higher free throw percentage than Jarin and has made 14 more than Jarin this year. Cliff, same. I mean Jarin is a 61 percent free throw shooter
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 6:32 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:56 am to GoodTalkRuss
I agree. If we have mo D in on that free throw we win. Jarin has a tendency to lose focus at times and it cost us big time yesterday. I don’t put the blame on him though. Oats has a rebounding machine in Mo D and he was riding the pine when we needed him the most. Oat’s strategy clearly works because look at his resume since he’s been here. I wish he would not rely so much on analytics.
We started Sears all year at point guard and the kid was trying his best but he’s just not a point guard. Mark struggled and lost confidence and we lost a few games because of it. Many of us on this forum saw Sears wasn’t confident at point guard even in victories, Nate still stuck him there and Mark kept pressing. Now he’s the switch to move him to the two guard and he looks like the all American we knew he was. He’s able to get penetration off of the catch instead of the dribble. I also feel Jarin should have never been a starter. We sacrificed a lot of our offensive flow to flaunt three guys over 6’10 in our starting lineup. Philon would be much further along if we didn’t move him to the bench.
We started Sears all year at point guard and the kid was trying his best but he’s just not a point guard. Mark struggled and lost confidence and we lost a few games because of it. Many of us on this forum saw Sears wasn’t confident at point guard even in victories, Nate still stuck him there and Mark kept pressing. Now he’s the switch to move him to the two guard and he looks like the all American we knew he was. He’s able to get penetration off of the catch instead of the dribble. I also feel Jarin should have never been a starter. We sacrificed a lot of our offensive flow to flaunt three guys over 6’10 in our starting lineup. Philon would be much further along if we didn’t move him to the bench.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:24 am to Diego Ricardo
Why can’t Oats beat Barnes? Too physical vs too soft? Obviously a bad match up for us. But giving up 79 to that terrible offense is unacceptable
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:59 am to ETT2001
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:11 am to BigFolks6347
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Jarin has a tendency to lose focus at times and it cost us big time yesterday.
Jarin Stevenson - 6' 11", 215 lbs
Jahmai Mashack - 6' 4", 201 lbs
Yesterday, we lost because of Jarin. He is the worst rebounder. I have never thought he was a good defender. He can't guard 4-5. I also never thought he was a good perimeter defender. He can't guard fast and athletic players.
If we could have had Mo D play instead of Jarin, we would have won.
Jarin only does well during garbage time.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 10:12 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:19 am to GoodTalkRuss
I agree with your post. Choking the game away was a huge kick in the nuts but the team that was on the floor for the first 39 minutes can make a deep run in the tourney. That team competed hard on the defensive side of the ball, didn’t make too many stupid turnovers, and ran the offense well.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:56 am to bamagoat
He lost the Auburn game also missing a layup. Oats has to realize he can’t play Jarin in late game situations. He’s too careless in every facet of the game.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 11:17 am to Bryant91092
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I agree with your post. Choking the game away was a huge kick in the nuts but the team that was on the floor for the first 39 minutes can make a deep run in the tourney. That team competed hard on the defensive side of the ball, didn’t make too many stupid turnovers, and ran the offense well.
I'm with you 100 percent. This team is growing and though the recent record says otherwise, they are tough as hell and getting better in areas that will be huge in about 2 weeks. They go on the road and make every game a fight and have beaten plenty of good teams in that process. Take our lumps now and let these other teams peak. We took a disheartening loss yesterday to a very good team, but I think everyone who watched that game knows who the better team was. Bama will be ready for the NCAA tournament, but our coaches need to sharpen their knives a bit in situational awareness, can't have that happen again.
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