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About Dylan Moses.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:58 am
Posted on 11/15/17 at 7:58 am
I thought he was thought of as "football smart" so learning the playbook shouldn't have been a problem. He has elite size plus elite speed so he was physically ready for big time college football.
We have had more than one true freshman come in and start from day one so why is it that the kid isn't ready to play beside Evans? He went through spring practice and is as physically gifted as any player on the team.
Has anyone heard anything about him struggling with assignments? Did the staff fail to develop him? Attitude problems? Overrated? I can't help but feel like he would have been a starter from day one on nearly every other SEC team this year. Usually guys like Moses show up and play really good football in year one. He was never gonna start over either of our veteran inside guys but now it shouldn't be a problem.
Is anybody else a little disappointed that he isn't ready yet?
We have had more than one true freshman come in and start from day one so why is it that the kid isn't ready to play beside Evans? He went through spring practice and is as physically gifted as any player on the team.
Has anyone heard anything about him struggling with assignments? Did the staff fail to develop him? Attitude problems? Overrated? I can't help but feel like he would have been a starter from day one on nearly every other SEC team this year. Usually guys like Moses show up and play really good football in year one. He was never gonna start over either of our veteran inside guys but now it shouldn't be a problem.
Is anybody else a little disappointed that he isn't ready yet?
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:00 am to Commander Data
We run a complex system and he hasn't been getting first team reps in practice or game experience. If we needed him to be a day 1 starter i bet he would be much more comfortable out there at this point.
So to answer your question - no, not disappointed (although it would be nice if he was just a natural perfect fit for us).
Hoping we simplify the D a bit in the upcoming games to try and help these guys out where they aren't thinking as much and can attack with their natural physical tools.
So to answer your question - no, not disappointed (although it would be nice if he was just a natural perfect fit for us).
Hoping we simplify the D a bit in the upcoming games to try and help these guys out where they aren't thinking as much and can attack with their natural physical tools.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 8:09 am
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:07 am to Commander Data
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but now it shouldn't be a problem.
You literally have no idea if this is true.
You are an outsider with nothing but supposition to go on. It's laughable for a person with your lack of knowledge and involvement in the situation to speak as if you know what is or isn't. Just Laughable.
Sorry if it feels like I'm singling you out. I'm actually not. These words are meant for several folks on here.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:10 am to Commander Data
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:19 am to Commander Data
Guys that are rated that high and are considered the very best at his position are expected to make a very big impact immediately outside of OL and quarterback and sometimes even they come in and win the job. He was rated higher than other inside backers that came in and dominated as freshmen. I am not knocking the kid but it is a fair question of why he isn't ready to play ball full time.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:23 am to Commander Data
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Guys that are rated that high and are considered the very best at his position are expected to make a very big impact immediately outside of OL and quarterback and sometimes even they come in and win the job. He was rated higher than other inside backers that came in and dominated as freshmen. I am not knocking the kid but it is a fair question of why he isn't ready to play ball full time.
Every kid is different. Foster didn't come in and dominate his first season, and he is probably the best MLB in the Saban era. Same with Mack Wilson.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:28 am to Funky Tide 8
^ what he said plus first team reps matter and I don't really agree with your position that MLB is a "come in and start as a freshman" type position in a Saban defense.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:30 am to Commander Data
World of difference between being football smart and mastering the central role of a Nick Saban defense.
quote:Not at all. The fact that we are still competitive in spite of losing four guys at the same position is incredible. And coach won't get any credit for it because it is expected that he will accomplish it.
Is anybody else a little disappointed that he isn't ready yet?
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:42 am to Bamadiver
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And coach won't get any credit for it because it is expected that he will accomplish it
I know - I hear the talking heads say "oh bama will be fine" like its nothing to try and replace all of those injuries, after losing so much defensive talent last year to the nfl / graduation on a team which is (typically) predicated on defense and ball control.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:49 am to Commander Data
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it is a fair question of why he isn't ready to play ball full time.
No, it's not a fair question. It's a ridiculous question. That's the whole point, dude.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:06 am to prevatt33
Most asinine assumption imaginable...Amazes me how some give up on kids so quickly. Our system is more complex than most NFL defenses. It takes experience , talent isn't an issue.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:16 am to Commander Data
In 2 years you will probably be on edge hoping he comes back for his Senior season.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:38 am to BamaFinland
Its tough to come in on a championship caliber team and start right away. R. Foster didnt come in and he was very highly rated coming out of HS. Esp LB because there are so many assignments. Calm down guy, he will be a future starter and probably a star
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:56 am to Bamainva40
Then maybe it's too complicated? No reason for it to be so complicated the kids can't pick it up in a reasonable amount of time. I'm not questioning the master, but you can outthink yourself sometimes.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:02 am to phil4bama
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Then maybe it's too complicated? No reason for it to be so complicated the kids can't pick it up in a reasonable amount of time. I'm not questioning the master, but you can outthink yourself sometimes.
Yes, after all the All-American LBs produced over a decade in this defense and we need to dumb the defense down.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:06 am to phil4bama
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No reason for it to be so complicated the kids can't pick it up in a reasonable amount of time.
So, let me get this straight.
You are questioning our defensive scheme, a defensive scheme that has produced a top 12 defense every year since 2008, and the number 1 defense about half those years. And you are questioning its complicatedness because a true freshman linebacker hasn't learned it well enough to unseat other awesome athletes in front of him, athletes who have numerous years in the system.
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I'm not questioning the master
Yes, you are. Yes, you very much 100% are. And I lack the words to express how disapointed you have made me in the Bama fanbase and humanity as a whole. I mourn for you and anyone whose life you touch.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 10:08 am
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:06 am to Commander Data
Not everyone is ready from the jump. He is physically ready compared to his peers, why he gets passrush reps.
Moses was touted as an athletic freak since 8th grade, I never really considered him someone who could absorb the playbook ASAP.
Guys like Trey DePriest, Donta Hightower, Nico Johnson, and CJ Mosley had that. They were immediately counted on and almost all had a stint in the NFL.
They also had a veteran playcaller next to them, which can't be overstated. Evans isn't that guy, he's the playmaker to formerly SDH's playcalling.
Moses was touted as an athletic freak since 8th grade, I never really considered him someone who could absorb the playbook ASAP.
Guys like Trey DePriest, Donta Hightower, Nico Johnson, and CJ Mosley had that. They were immediately counted on and almost all had a stint in the NFL.
They also had a veteran playcaller next to them, which can't be overstated. Evans isn't that guy, he's the playmaker to formerly SDH's playcalling.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:13 am to phil4bama
quote:This must be a troll. Really???
Then maybe it's too complicated?
quote:You most certainly are. Take a deep breath. If the problems can be fixed at all we have the best coach in college football to do so. If they cannot be fixed, he will put us in the best possible position to win. That is all. Wow.
I'm not questioning the master
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:15 am to MagillaGuerilla
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They also had a veteran playcaller next to them, which can't be overstated.
So very true
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:18 am to phil4bama
We've had top defenses consistently since Saban came. NFL teams seem to appreciate our defenders coming from a NFL-type scheme. Dumbing it down probably isn't the right answer. There's probably more of an issue with a 3rd stringer thinking they don't have to master it because they're 3rd string and don't expect to be put in the situation of being 1st string immediately...no sense of urgency. I bet today there is a sense of urgency...and Pruit and Saban are reinforcing that sense of urgency daily.
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