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re: Aaron Murray breaks down Milroe vs USF
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:22 am to PowHound
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:22 am to PowHound
Did the “team” sabotage Jalen by not blocking and not running routes correctly because they wanted our young “Tom Brady” Ty Simpson to play? They every time Jalen scored they held so the officials could call it back. Maybe you’re right we need to go with Ty before we lose the team and get Jalen hurt.
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:24 am to BigFolks6347
Let's TRY to keep the conversation intelligent.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:24 am to BigFolks6347
You pay no nevermind to Teague's insults. Ty is going to get Buchner'd by Mack unfortunately. Love Ty's wheels.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 10:26 am
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:25 am to YStar
Let make it simple for the other people who don't understand.
Milroe makes the right read. Yet he has to throw when the WR is coming out of their break.
He doesn't because he probably fears they won't get open, so he waits till he sees they have space then throws.
This makes throws late.
This makes throws inaccurate because he pushes some to make up for the lost time or underthrows some because he should have released a half-second faster
He doesn't do this every time.
Milroe makes the right read. Yet he has to throw when the WR is coming out of their break.
He doesn't because he probably fears they won't get open, so he waits till he sees they have space then throws.
This makes throws late.
This makes throws inaccurate because he pushes some to make up for the lost time or underthrows some because he should have released a half-second faster
He doesn't do this every time.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:25 am to YStar
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He doesn't trust them though. He always has to wait till they're open and then he will throw.
I don't think it's a trust issue. What's the saying? In high school a WR is "open" when there are 2 yards of separation; in college, that shrinks to about half a step and in the pros it's literally a 1' x1' window. QBs that can't evolve simply do not make the cut. JM seems to have a high school understanding of what constitutes a WR being "open."
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:27 am to YStar
I will say outside of some the insulting you and Powhound have done this has been a fun discussion to watch even if some of the points made have been absolutely zany.
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:29 am to Ten Bears
I'm telling you I have seen this kind of play before. It's all trust.
Maybe I'm not articulating the point we'll enough.
He has doubts they will get to a spot so he doesn't throw to spots. He throws when he sees the WR get open.
How do I know this? He is making his reads. He knows where to go with the ball... so why wait?
He's waiting because he either doesn't trust them to get to the spot or he doesn't trust himself to throw to the spot
Maybe I'm not articulating the point we'll enough.
He has doubts they will get to a spot so he doesn't throw to spots. He throws when he sees the WR get open.
How do I know this? He is making his reads. He knows where to go with the ball... so why wait?
He's waiting because he either doesn't trust them to get to the spot or he doesn't trust himself to throw to the spot
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:30 am to YStar
I think what is great is the outside of the Oline adjustments, I think the Whisky plan will be pretty vanilla as well so this is going to be just as amazing next week.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:31 am to Ten Bears
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:35 am to PowHound
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You mean like... I dunno... the season starting and it being time to actually be active on the board again ? Like I'm gonna be a regular during the offseason so I can read this sort of simpleton shite from YStar ?
You tried to derail the WKU game thread with your bullshite, got no traction because it was a 63-0 blowout, and went back into your hole. Then Saturday night happened and here we are.
You are either so bitter, pathetic, and negative that you make dd4bama look like the picture of fun or you're a troll, and frankly that's just splitting hairs. Either way it's fricking tedious.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:35 am to YStar
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It's why he throws short on deep balls. It's why he will be high for no reason on other passes. It's why at times he won't be in rhythm.
His biggest issues is he waits for players to get open THEN he throws.
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He doesn't because he probably fears they won't get open, so he waits till he sees they have space then throws.
These are all traits of poor QB play since the beginning of time. I am truly astounded you are attempting to convince people Milroe simply does not trust his WR's enough to throw them open. This is truly one of the most bizarre takes I have ever read on the rant and that is saying something.
We all want all the players to be great, but I will not drink delusional gibberish kool-Aid that suggest Milroe is withholding his talents because he doesn't trust the WR's to catch his perfectly thrown on time balls.
This is simply bizarre level delusion.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:36 am to Robot Santa
USF is a good team and will beat Miami.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:39 am to Carlton
quote:lol you giving the points last I checked it was -15.5
I think what is great is the outside of the Oline adjustments, I think the Whisky plan will be pretty vanilla as well so this is going to be just as amazing next week.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:43 am to YStar
Is it that he doesn't trust them or he can't throw with anticipation?
He's in his second year of starting, you would think he would trust them at this point
He's in his second year of starting, you would think he would trust them at this point
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:44 am to Robot Santa
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it was a 63-0 blowout, and went back into your hole.
I'm still not following you. Do I need to post 24/7 to be a real Tide fan ?
Milroe had 7 completions. Fumbled the third snap of the game. He only had one legit completion where he stood tall in the pocket, made his reads and delivered a ball on time.
I sounded the alarm that the same issues were still there from last season despite the score.
Then wouldn't you know I was proven correct the next game vs USF.
Maybe you and your 45 million post should take a break from time to time so you're not thinking people that only post during season or during games are trolls. Some of us have wives, kids, and careers to attend to. You coming at me for not drinking this delusional bullshite about Milroe is weird AF.
This is the last time I'm gonna ask you:
Why cant DeBoer run his offense that we saw last season with Penix here at Bama with Milroe ?
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:45 am to Firegolding
Nope, cause unless we turn the ball over I don't see how Whisky scores and their run D is booboo.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:53 am to Milticket
Miami is probably going to win the ACC unless Clemson pulls it from under them
We said this same thing about USF last year and they went 6-6. At the end of the day they still have a horrendous pass game and that blitz scheme isn’t going to work against Ward
We said this same thing about USF last year and they went 6-6. At the end of the day they still have a horrendous pass game and that blitz scheme isn’t going to work against Ward
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:17 am to UhOhOreo
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Is it that he doesn't trust them or he can't throw with anticipation?
Maybe he doesn't trust himself. If he can't see them open he doesn't trust to throw to where they will be because he feels it could be a interception?
I have no idea but there is a lack of trust there and it's either in his WR or himself.
He makes the read. He sees the player and he literally waits a half-second too long till he feels it's "safe".
He would would just throw with anticipation as you said he would look out of this world (especially with clean footwork and pocket awareness).
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:45 am to YStar
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His problem is he doesn't trust his WR so he doesn't throw to the open spot
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I think this may be true sometimes, but some of it is definitely decision making. Murray is pretty critical of some of the routes. However, at the same time, JM chooses to throw to some guys with really tight coverage on 50/50 balls when there is a better option. He doesn't trust a guy breaking open, so he throws to a different guy with tight coverage. On some of those video cuts, you can see a medium out-breaking route that might be a little sloppy, but is definitely an easier completion than a contested ball thrown down the sideline. The play looks designed to clear out space for that intermediate throw with the vertical routes.
On the short out routes and the one stick route to the TE, his timing was way off on guys that were already breaking open. I wonder if he doesn't trust his accuracy in tight spaces. If he hits Adams on time with good ball placement, 7 scores and doesn't get hurt on the play. There was a similar one to 2 on the opposite end of the field. You can actually here the frustration in AM's voice as he replays these timing plays over and over again. Even some of the completions downfield were bringing WR to the ground or necessitating a full stop to wait on the ball. The bad OL play probably plays a role in all these things, but timing and footwork issues were there in last week's video breakdown too..
When pointing out OL breakdowns with slide protections, AM mentions just once that the QB could communicate with his OL about what he sees. This is what Bryce excelled at. It is currently something that is not yet in JM's repertoire. A Heisman contender needs to be better than B- against a middle of the road team. JM has shown he can be even against good teams, BUT I'm pretty sure he is going to see a lot of blitzes from here on out. How he and the OL handle it will tell the tale of the season.
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:48 am to YStar
I do not see everything that is said about the game and I have not watched the video from the OP. BUT... has anyone talked about how the USF CB #22 abused RW #2> He also did it to #5 a couple of times.
RW is 17 years old and 165 lbs soaking wet. The CB #22 was aggressive in press man and knocked RW off of hs route over and over. He pinched him to the sideline and cut him off.
OC needs to get RW off of the LoS against press man or the better D's we face will be arm barring him out of bounds come UGA week.
RW is 17 years old and 165 lbs soaking wet. The CB #22 was aggressive in press man and knocked RW off of hs route over and over. He pinched him to the sideline and cut him off.
OC needs to get RW off of the LoS against press man or the better D's we face will be arm barring him out of bounds come UGA week.
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