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re: Aaron Murray breaks down Milroe vs USF

Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:33 am to
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Your agenda is so tiring. You rarely, if ever, post when the team is playing well. But when they struggle, oh boy, you can't stop posting.



Yeah it's almost like he's just a troll. MIA for months, then suddenly the minute anything goes a bit bad he's immediately spewing his shite all over the board in every thread beating the same drum. I genuinely have no idea why he hasn't been banned.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
2162 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:35 am to
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Next time RW catches an 8 yard hitch, do you want him to take a knee instead of taking it 40+ yards to the house so that Milroe can work on putting together a long drive? Next time the OL opens up a big hole for Jam, do you want him to take a knee after getting a first down so that Milroe can work on putting together a long drive?


This

like what are we talking about? No more explosive plays please, that's too exciting for me lol
Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
7160 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:45 am to
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MIA for months, then suddenly


You mean like... I dunno... the season starting and it being time to actually be active on the board again ? Like I'm gonna be a regular during the offseason so I can read this sort of simpleton shite from YStar ?

Geez dude,... I thought you were quicker than this.

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I genuinely have no idea why he hasn't been banned.


For pointing out the obvious about Milroe and discussing football on the football board ? You've lost your damn mind, cupcake. Most people have the same opinion. The Milroe die hards are actually the minority. Banned ? Pfffffff
Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
7160 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:47 am to
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Do you think Milroe could run the same offense that DeBoer ran last year at Washington with Penix ? If not,... why not ?


Still waiting.
Posted by Firegolding
Member since Oct 2020
246 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:54 am to
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They want him to fail so badly.
don’t know if this was directed at me but I absolutely don’t want him to fail. I’ve been pro Milroe and laughing at all the conspiracy theories why Simpson hasn’t been the starter for the last year and a half. While the Oline was obviously terrible you have to admit Milroe doesn’t look like he’s taken that next step that many including me were expecting. Give Simpson a shot, if he sucks then so be it but it feels like he at least deserves a chance to show what he’s got with the 1s in the first half of a game. And who knows maybe Milroe with a healthy oline balls out, takes that next step and makes me and all the other keyboard warriors look like idiots.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:54 am to
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That has absolutely nothing to do with trust


It has everything to do with trust. If a QB doesn't trust you're going to get there he won't even consider you an option.

This is what I mean. You don't even know what your watching and don't understand how the game works yet you're loud with an opinion demanding answers to questions that are already answered and making declarations for things like 9 minute drives which are asinine.

The worst part is you guys won't own a damn thing. You consistently get proven wrong and just pivot or deny these posts ever existed.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:55 am to
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don’t know if this was directed at me but I absolutely don’t want him to fail.


Definitely not directed at you. I was agreeing with your point.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4266 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:58 am to
There is a lot of good analysis in there. Yes, the OL sucked and caused problems for JM, but if you watch the plays where Jalen completed passes, a lot of the throws were late or underthrown and the WR never had the opportunity to make a catch in stride and get YAC. I am not sure that can be fixed.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:58 am to
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And who knows maybe Milroe with a healthy oline balls out, takes that next step and makes me and all the other keyboard warriors look like idiots.


Why would you look like an idiot? You're saying what I and a few others have been, just I believe I see he has advanced a bit from last season.

We will see though. IMO so far so good, as long as Formby isn't playing lol
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
14274 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:59 am to
This thread feels like if Jordan Peterson was a Bama fan .
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:02 am to
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lot of the throws were late or underthrown and the WR never had the opportunity to make a catch in stride and get YAC


This is something I wish he would improve on. I don't think most or late or underthrown, I think they are high. I see receivers having to jump and stretch for the ball at times killing their momentum. I will say one or two, I think or hope were strategic to slow the receiver down cause had he led them he was leading them into a big hit by a defender.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 10:13 am
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
2884 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:05 am to
That was something that felt off all game. Two of the early RW bombs were under throws, Bernard had to take a knee on a wide open post, and then we had the off target throw over the middle.

Some of the WKU stuff felt mistimed or off but not really as bad here. I get scared about those being hospital balls against Georgia

We sail it a ton on throws too, usually over the middle, and it’s still there this year. The touchdown pass over the middle against Georgia was largely on Burton going sky high to catch it and keep possession. This game we threw one of the middle that was the exact same situation
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 10:08 am
Posted by Firegolding
Member since Oct 2020
246 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:08 am to
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Definitely not directed at you. I was agreeing with your point.
My bad, just really getting sick of all the QB arguments whether on here or other places. Shoot even my Bama groupchat won’t shut up about it and they my friends and family.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25596 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:09 am to
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Do you think Milroe could run the same offense that DeBoer ran last year at Washington with Penix ? If not,... why not ?

Penix was in his 4th year with DeBoer, had 1st, 2nd, and 4th round wideouts, and had the Offensive Line of the year
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
875 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:10 am to
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Yeah it's almost like he's just a troll.


Good Lord here we go again. Milroe is good but not great. It's probably not all on him, but in the moments where the O-line has somewhat gelled, we can see they same flaws that keeps him from being elite. It's not a bash against his character or trolling. This is what fans do... passionately. Frankly, I agree that the habits Milroe has will more than likely cost us more games than it should. I pray I am wrong. But I do love Milroe personally (except for the annoying dancing in the endzone crap) and enjoy his interviews after games.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Antarctica
Member since Aug 2018
13264 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:10 am to
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Penix was in his 4th year with DeBoer, had a 1st, 2nd, and 4th round wideouts, and had the Offensive Line of the year


And Penix also had Grubb as his OC/QB coach. I think we'd all agree that Sheridan is not at Grubb's level as a coach just yet.
Posted by PowHound
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Member since Jul 2014
7160 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:11 am to
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a lot of the throws were late or underthrown and the WR never had the opportunity to make a catch in stride and get YAC. I am not sure that can be fixed.


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I see receivers having to jump and stretch for the ball at times killing their momentum.


Fellas, fellas, listen to YStar... Milroe throws are off target and late because he doesn't trust any of the WR's to catch perfectly thrown balls that hit them in the hands when they come open.

Milroe only trust WR's that are standing by themselves in the open field on busted coverage plays.

It's all about trust. Milroe can throw the ball on time through a needle head, but he simply does not trust the WR's to catch the ball so he holds onto the ball forever and patiently waits for someone to be standing alone in the middle of the field.

Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4266 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:14 am to
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They want him to fail so badly.


I don't see any of this

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Milroe has his issues but so does every QB in the country. We just need him to clean up some of his messes like the footwork under pressure, fumbles and how he recovers and throwing to spots instead of waiting for WRs to get 1000% open.


Because, in many people's opinion (yes, opinion) some of the above CANNOT be fixed. Fumbles can, of course, be fixed. But if you watch any of the practice videos, watch Milroe vs the other QBs when they do their warm-ups (which is all we are allowed to see). All of the other QBs throw BEFORE the WR makes their cut, while JM makes his throw after the WR makes his cut. It's just who he is, and I'm not sure if it can be corrected. And if it can't be corrected, our offense will look clunky most of the time.

Now, the big question is, can the staff scheme around it? Can the staff dial up some quick screens to the perimeter, pop passes etc to get the defense moving side to side so that a long vertical opens up? Or can we get the OL where it needs to be to establish the running game to take the pressure off JM? These are the questions I want to know, because I seriously doubt, short of an injury or a MASSIVE failure against Georgia, we will see Simpson get any playing time outside of mop-up.

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:20 am to
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All of the other QBs throw BEFORE the WR makes their cut, while JM makes his throw after the WR makes his cut. It's just who he is, and I'm not sure if it can be corrected.


Yep that is the issue.

It's why he throws short on deep balls. It's why he will be high for no reason on other passes. It's why at times he won't be in rhythm.

His biggest issues is he waits for players to get open THEN he throws.

Dude you have to pick the spot they are suppose to be at then trust they will beat the defender and get to that spot.

He doesn't trust them though. He always has to wait till they're open and then he will throw.

If he can fix that he will win the Heisman. That and the happy feet.
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
14274 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 10:20 am to
Don't take part of my quotes for that point lol. Selective quoting is slander . The rest adds context. Takes be back to my broadcast journalism editing lol.
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