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re: 2020 FB Recruiting & Roster
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:50 am to TidalSurge1
Posted on 12/20/19 at 8:50 am to TidalSurge1
I still can't get over how highly Saban talked about Young.
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“I just absolutely love the guy,” Saban said. “His character. He’s got a great family. He’s got all the right stuff. And I think that’s really important in the quarterback position. You’ve heard me say this many times before, if you play quarterback, it’s hard to play the position if the people around you don’t play well, so having great leadership qualities can contribute to that. I think Bryce certainly possesses those qualities.”
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:00 am to SoFla Tideroller
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If I had to choose between a Michael Williams yackle at TE or an OJ Howard, give me MW 10/10 times. I want someone who can drive people off the line of scrimmage. We have enough fast-twitch types on the outside now to create mismatches.
This is the exact opposite of what smart football teams do. You want a mismatch nightmare at tight end who can block decently. That puts way more strain on a defense than wasting a play running the ball.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:15 am to alabamabuckeye
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Hot take: Irv Smith was a better and more reliable TE than OJ
No. If OJ plays with Tua, OJ would have been a monster.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:15 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I agree. If Gronk and Tony Gonzalez were both in their prime and on this roster, I think we'd find a way to tgt them less than 5 times a game combined.
Yea - the amount of attention paid to tight ends is really strange, to be honest
Not sure why, but it hasn't been a heavily used part of any of CNSs Oc's gameplan. Or, at least it seems that way.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:17 am to remaster916
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Don't think Kirby is losing a step. Georgia pretty much cleaned up and got almost everyone they wanted. Georgia's average rating per recruit the last few years have been extremely high, probably highest in the nation.
Saban hasn't won many head to head recruiting battles against Kirby the last 3 years. Saban did get Sanders and Neal, they were heavy Bama leans that Kirby almost flipped.
Bama has higer ranked classes the last two years, but Bama has taken more players. Kirby is recruiting like Saban used too.
Kirby getting Burton and Arian Smith was especially impressive b/c as of now his offense is terrible.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:27 am to Che Boludo
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I agree. If Gronk and Tony Gonzalez were both in their prime and on this roster, I think we'd find a way to tgt them less than 5 times a game combined.
Not sure why, but it hasn't been a heavily used part of any of CNSs Oc's gameplan. Or, at least it seems that way.
Kiffin and Sark have histories of using the TE at USC and they had some good ones. Unfortunately, at Bama we have only had good QB play and a TE who can stretch the field one season with Irv.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:31 am to Tider95
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...wasting a play running the ball.
I see you're still pushing your narrative that running plays are always wasted plays.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 9:32 am
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:32 am to SoFla Tideroller
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If I had to choose between a Michael Williams yackle at TE or an OJ Howard, give me MW 10/10 times
Plenty of 300 pound tackles out there that can block better than MW and catch a football. Why not just play with 3 tackles?
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:42 am to Che Boludo
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I agree. If Gronk and Tony Gonzalez were both in their prime and on this roster, I think we'd find a way to tgt them less than 5 times a game combined
Irv got a lot of passes thrown his way last year. OJ I will agree did not get targeted enough, but if you have 3 or 4 of Jeudy, Ruggs, Smitty, and Waddle on the field what justification is there for throwing to Forristall or Tennison unless someone has straight up forgotten to cover them? If you have multiple elite playmakers at WR the TE is not getting the ball unless he is also an elite playmaker.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:48 am to Riseupfromtherubble
You know you can create mismatches other places than outside? I want to re-establish Bama's physical identity. Y'all want to continue speeding down the onramp to the Big12 highway.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:07 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Y'all want to continue speeding down the onramp to the Big12 highway.
If our defense doesn't get it together we will have no choice.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:08 am to SoFla Tideroller
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You know you can create mismatches other places than outside?
Absolutely. That's my entire point. Mike Williams wasn't a mismatch. If you want a mismatch in the running game then why not put an extra tackle out there (which we've done plenty btw with Brandon Greene in the past)
If you want a mismatch in the passing game then it benefits having a guy that's too fast for the linebacker and too big for the safety at TE. Football at the highest level is a mismatch game now as much as anything. It's damn near solely responsible for getting us beat last january. Clemson didn't have some great scheme, they just kept throwing the ball at our weakest player and their guy was a lot better than our guy. LSU has rode mismatches into the playoffs. Watch burrow's shots downfield. They don't fall into a bucket like Tua's, but he gives guys like Chase and Marshall a chance to make a play on the ball when they're covered well and they usually do. Jefferson runs underneath against linebackers. It's just conceptual football. This guy is better than that guy.
I should notate that's only half the battle. The other half is understanding what the defense is doing before and after the snap so that you understand where the best mismatch is
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:17 am to Bham Bammer
Except changing over to the high octane offense has not helped our D one bit. The quicker we score the more our D is on the field.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:30 am to TideWarrior
Exactly...we turned into Auburn
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:34 am to TideWarrior
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Except changing over to the high octane offense has not helped our D one bit. The quicker we score the more our D is on the field.
The breakdowns we have had on defense lately have nothing to do with our offense. Our penalties extending drives and missed assignments have nothing to do with our offense.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:40 am to Shaft Williams
Agreed. I have never bought in to the “good offense , can’t have a good defense “ theory . If the offense scores quickly ( which doesn’t ALWAYS happen)it may put the defense out there a couple minutes earlier but the defense can always GET ITSELF off the damn field . Hold em for 3 plays and rest . With tv timeouts and crap they should be rested enough or you need more depth
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:49 am to Bear88
Look for Evans to shock people and sign with Ugag tonight or soon unless A&M ups the ante. All out bidding war going on for him right now. Might want to check and see if he's listed on eBay.
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:52 am to Tide or Die87
the same mistakes we had vs south Carolina followed us all year busted coverages by Shy Carter defensive backs getting trucked for 5 yards after contact to many defensive players on the field constantly getting cooked on 3rd and long last but not least linebackers completely forgetting the running back is eligible to catch the ball let alone their open field tackling. I'm not calling no one out but this excuse our offense hurt our defense is bs now if we go out here and make Shea Patterson look like Tom Brady maybe some fans will realize the truth considering what OSU just did to them
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:54 am to TidalSurge1
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I see you're still pushing your narrative that running plays are always wasted plays.
Narrative? that is a fact. I have laid out the case many times here. Running the ball isn't always bad, but it is almost always more inefficient and the wrong call. The times that it is the right call are when you have a number advantage created either by having a running QB or by using some type of action such as an option to force the defense into a favorable matchup.
Having a 3rd tackle as a TE out there doesn't accomplish this most of the time. Hell you'd be better off motioning a TE into the backfield as a FB similar to what the Ravens are doing as they have more flexibility to create a numbers advantage compared to a mauler TE lined up on the line.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 10:59 am
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:57 am to Bama3714
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Look for Evans to shock people and sign with Ugag tonight or soon unless A&M ups the ante. All out bidding war going on for him right now. Might want to check and see if he's listed on eBay.
The NCAA is a joke. Georgia already got reported by Ole Miss and maybe more. I hope that A&M goes scorched earth.
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