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Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:25 am to BigBird09
Only one negative I’m going to talk about, and that’s Beetle Bolden. People are bashing Petty, but Bolden was the worst guard last night and it wasn’t even close. I hope this is just him shaking off some rust coming off of the injury.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:30 am to phil4bama
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Any chance Kira comes back next year?
I didn’t think so preseason, but he’s going to put up HUGE numbers once he realizes he’s unstoppable. The sad thing is his passing has been pretty good, but our players aren’t catching them. I’d say it’s 50/50 and depends heavily upon what kind of draft grade he’ll accept. If he’s fine being a high second round pick, I think he’s gone.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 7:36 am to BigBird09
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Only one negative I’m going to talk about, and that’s Beetle Bolden. People are bashing Petty, but Bolden was the worst guard last night and it wasn’t even close. I hope this is just him shaking off some rust coming off of the injury.
I was hoping we'd have a little more luck with Beetle, but our struggles with transfers continue. Outside of Bola being able to rebound well, we never seem to be able to hit on a good transfer.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:27 am to Gary Busey
Going forward, do you start Shackleford over Petty? Petty gives you rebounds, but continues to throw up bricks and have costly turnovers that kill Alabama's momentum.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:52 am to Gary Busey
Well, this isn't what I opened this thread up this morning expecting to find.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:56 am to Gary Busey
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Going forward, do you start Shackleford over Petty? Petty gives you rebounds, but continues to throw up bricks and have costly turnovers that kill Alabama's momentum.
Shackelford is basically only good for a hot hand from 3 at this point. His defense is atrocious. He's a freshman so it's not unexpected.
Petty is an offensive disaster but he at least plays decent defense and attacks the glass.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:27 am to BigBird09
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Only one negative I’m going to talk about, and that’s Beetle Bolden. People are bashing Petty, but Bolden was the worst guard last night and it wasn’t even close. I hope this is just him shaking off some rust coming off of the injury.
Agree 100%. Personally, I'm not really onboard with the common mindset that we have to find a scapegoat (pick your favorite scapegoat - Petty, Reese, Herb, Dazon...). But, if we're looking for one, Beetle has been pretty bad.
But again, I still think this team can be pretty good. They need to get under control. Play fast but not frantically. That alone should help with the turnovers and the missed easy shots.
And people need to understand that if we get 85 possessions, so will the other team. We're not going to be holding a lot of teams to 50 points with this style.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 9:33 am
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:35 am to Teague
I’m kind of torn. I want to Oats to run his system. Though I do think if he tweaked it a little a played slower we might win more games this year. We don’t have the players to play his style. We don’t have great ball handlers. Even Kira can be turnover prone. And we don’t have great shooters. We have guys that can make a three. But we don’t have a great shooter on the team
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:36 am to Gary Busey
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Going forward, do you start Shackleford over Petty? Petty gives you rebounds, but continues to throw up bricks and have costly turnovers that kill Alabama's momentum.
Oats luxury of not playing Petty 30+ minutes a game pretty much vanished with the injuries to Rojas and Gary.
With the fast pace, Petty's decision making and poor dribbling on offense is certainly thrown into relief.
However, just like last year, our turnover problems include every single player on the team.
The box score for turnovers, just like last year, usually reads:
4
4
5
4
5
with every rotation option off the bench adding 2 or 3 more in half the minutes.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:40 am to wm72
And I know Oats philosophy is to outscore the other team, but we’ve given up 81 to Penn and 93 to Rhode Island. That’s not going to cut it. The defense is going to have to improve some or league play will be tough.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:29 am to phil4bama
I don’t think Kira is a first round pick. At this point, he has NO CHANCE to guard anyone in the NBA. It
would be brutal. He could still leave though, I guess, but I expect him back next year.
I’m still maintaining some optimism (because why the hell not). You could see the turnovers coming with a new faster paced offense - plenty of us talked about it. I think we’ll gradually get better on that end. Also some of these guys (Petty, Bolden) can’t play any worse. Presumably. Hopefully.
I’m less optimistic about the defense. Our aspirational goal should be to become slightly below average.
would be brutal. He could still leave though, I guess, but I expect him back next year.
I’m still maintaining some optimism (because why the hell not). You could see the turnovers coming with a new faster paced offense - plenty of us talked about it. I think we’ll gradually get better on that end. Also some of these guys (Petty, Bolden) can’t play any worse. Presumably. Hopefully.
I’m less optimistic about the defense. Our aspirational goal should be to become slightly below average.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:34 am to Crede15
Regarding the defense, why is Oats married to playing man? Not to say a zone would yield better results, but it couldn't be worse.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:50 am to Allthatfades
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And we don’t have great shooters. We have guys that can make a three. But we don’t have a great shooter on the team
We don't need great shooters. Let's say we take 30 3s in one game. If we make 10 of them, which is not a very good percentage, we have still scored 30 points on those shots. If they had been 2s we'd have needed to make 15 of them to score 30. 3s taken in volume, even by mediocre shooters, is a more efficient way to score. The problem is that we have average shooters who are also streaky shooters. We have guys who are going to make 4 of 8 in one game then turn around and go 1-7 the next game. If you take 30 3s and only make 6 of them because all of your shooters are cold you're fricked.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:52 am to Robot Santa
I would guess he doesn’t want to change what he’s trying to build long-term in order to have a better chance in the short-term. Or we may just never really practice zone.
That may be more likely. Given that he’s trying to install a new offensive system, he may just want to focus as much as possible on a few things.
On a completely different note, he’s got to find a way to give Kira some more rest. There’s got to be a way to steal a few minutes here and there. 38, 38, and 39 in the first three games is a lot.
That may be more likely. Given that he’s trying to install a new offensive system, he may just want to focus as much as possible on a few things.
On a completely different note, he’s got to find a way to give Kira some more rest. There’s got to be a way to steal a few minutes here and there. 38, 38, and 39 in the first three games is a lot.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 12:03 pm to Crede15
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I would guess he doesn’t want to change what he’s trying to build long-term in order to have a better chance in the short-term. Or we may just never really practice zone.
That may be more likely. Given that he’s trying to install a new offensive system, he may just want to focus as much as possible on a few things
Makes sense. We just suck at man defense soooooo much. Mostly because Herb, Petty, and Javian are the only guys on the whole roster who aren't downright terrible at it.
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On a completely different note, he’s got to find a way to give Kira some more rest. There’s got to be a way to steal a few minutes here and there. 38, 38, and 39 in the first three games is a lot.
Bolden is a turnover machine and Shackleford is a freshman. No one else can handle the ball. The NCAA ratfricking us on Quinerly is going to kill us.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 3:12 pm to Robot Santa
Sheesh. 33 points off turnovers for Rhode Island last night.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 3:16 pm to Gary Busey
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Sheesh. 33 points off turnovers for Rhode Island last night.
The turnovers killed us. We'd be 3-0 if we'd committed half as many turnovers.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 3:26 pm to Teague
It's amazing to me that we've scored as many points as we've had these first three games, despite missing a plethora of easy layups and with turnovers. Guess one of the positives to take from last night are the second half adjustments and some of the looks on the offensive end.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:34 pm to Gary Busey
Do you think maybe Nate doesn’t play zone because if you can shoot, you can destroy a zone? A guy with a shoot first mentality probably relishes a zone but thinks man to man is harder to break down.
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